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Why Are 15 Million Americans Unemployed When 8.3 Million Illegals Have Jobs? Immigration Moratorium Now!

One of the President's campaign promises, made often in the Midwestern Rustbelt, was to renegotiate NAFTA. It was a popular policy among hard-hit workers who understand how globalized trade has directly harmed them, since NAFTA sent thousands of jobs to Mexico and turned a moderate trade surplus into a loss. Senator Sherrod Brown estimated that NAFTA caused the loss of 200,000 manufacturing jobs in Ohio alone.

President Obama still plans an amnesty in the near, though unspecific, future, according to threats continuing to burble out of the White House.

That’s despite record unemployment and widespread misery throughout the land.

Obama’s Treason Lobby supporters nag him constantly that he promised to reward illegal alien lawbreakers. So there’s no danger he will be allowed to forget.

We have become so desensitized to Washington’s daily cruelty to average Americans that the systematic displacement of citizens in the workplace is accepted as the norm. Plus, not only is the White House guaranteeing to reward millions of aliens for violating U.S. sovereignty, but legal immigration on auto-pilot continues to dump 125,000 new workers per month into America’s already flooded labor market.

In boom times, captains of industry demanded additional foreign workers and got them. But now, when 15 million Americans are jobless, there is no corresponding reduction.

Why is that? Is there no OFF switch anywhere in Washington? An immigration moratorium, a time-out , would be sensible public policy and would relieve a lot of pain among citizens.

But there is no such legislation in Congress.

Has America drifted into an alternative universe where evil rules? Perhaps traditional citizens have been a little late in finding their voice in townhalls and tea parties.

Interestingly, President Obama understands something of the principle of supply and demand regarding employment—as he demonstrated in his CNN interview broadcast September 20:

“I think we’ll be adding jobs, but you need 150,000 additional jobs each month just to keep pace with a growing population,” the president said. “So if we’re only adding 50,000 jobs, that’s a great reversal from losing 700,000 jobs [a month] early this year—but, you know, it means that we’ve still got a ways to go.” [Obama: Economy probably won't produce enough jobs until 2010]

Among Americans, the economy is the top concern. An August Gallup poll found that 31 percent of workers personally feared losing their job, a new high and double the rate of a year ago. A Harris Poll taken in early September noted that 60 percent of Americans polled gave the President a negative rating on handling the economy.

Yet Washington and the elite media are stuck on healthcare. It’s certainly important and needs fixing. But unemployment is worsening (now at 9.7 percent nationally), and badly so in many regions and job sectors.

In August, 42 states lost jobs (an increase of 29 states from July) with a nationwide total of 216,000 persons laid off.

http://www.nationalpolicyinsti...tion-moratorium-now/
 
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Why??? Because the Criminals have Taken control!!!
2 kisses on the cheek, You are part. "NOT"!!! Seen It all, Heard It All, experienced it!!! Only when you see how Tricky in real time can you begin to understand how!!!!


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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Because Obama is a racist and illegal alien. Birds of a feather.......
 
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Because Obama is a racist and illegal alien. Birds of a feather.......


C'mon! get over this allergy against a black president. On what basis is he a racist? Just amazing how the far right "righteous" racists are casting the first stone at Obama. Who doesn't know the far right agenda to delegitimize Obama at all cost.

How is Obama a racist?..The Gates issue is toss-up..Please give me something concrete so i can at least hear both sides. I can go on and on naming white politicians who weren't good for race relations. Mayor Guliani and Pres. Bush are two who come to mind. I haven't heard Obama's racial rhetoric or bias towards white ppl as of yet. Ive yet to see angry mobs of black ppl outside of the white house waiting on his word for revolution.

I try to hear both sides. Now, a lot of you wont/cant admit that its unsettling to see a person of color in office. As long as you hold that sentiment, you will always hate Obama, even if Obama was doing exactly what you wanted...there would still be a problem. Instead of praying every night for him to get his head blown off...why not look at both sides of the issue? One thing is for sure..if you judge Obama on one isolated race incident, then thats a very weak argument.

We just got through 8 yrs of tyranny, scandals, swindles, lying, racism, supporting the enemy with funds, and some hellified conspiracies, abuse and neglect.

Why is that given a pass?...Most of our last administration should be on trial some would argue.
 
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Awesome work on the passive aggressive "you're the racist" stance, schicco. Good job! Pity you lost it on the whole "I try to hear both sides" thing. Of course, you're an old troll and used to being shot down, so I'm not worried about hurting your feelings Smile


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Where's Jerm at? He's got more self control than I've ever seen to stay quiet with all the recent happenings.




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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Awesome work on the passive aggressive "you're the racist" stance, schicco. Good job! Pity you lost it on the whole "I try to hear both sides" thing. Of course, you're an old troll and used to being shot down, so I'm not worried about hurting your feelings Smile


I was only responding to 'federale86' who said "Because Obama is a racist and illegal alien. Birds of a feather".
I am still waiting for his reasons for calling Obama a racist.

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You want the truth? You can't handle the truth !! Any American Citizen that is unemployed because he can't compete with an undocumented alien with poor English skills and no advanced education deserves to be unemployed. The vast majority of unemployed Americans are fat, lazy and stupid. They are the ones that should be deported. Immigration CREATES jobs. This is an economic fact. I am an expert on economics. America was BUILT by Immigrants seeking a better life. Our retarded immigration policy rewards fraud and discourages honesty. We need to let people that LOVE America, Capitalism and our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ, to come here and deport anyone, regardless if they are US Citizens who do not embrace America, Capitalism and Jesus Christ. We should start by deporting the number one Anti-American, Anti-Capitalist muslim Barack Hussein Obama !!!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND F*** EVERYONE ELSE !!!


I agreed with most of what you said but you then lost track by suggesting that capitalism is the Christian way and Obama is anti-American. Capitalism is what motivated slavery. Some of the founding fathers had slaves because of capitalist mentality. Where these founding fathers really Christians?

During great depression Franklin Roosevelt created Social Security system, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Civilian Conservation Corps, along with a wealth of other programs of social uplift. detractors declared that he was “a traitor to his class". These stimulated the economy. Social security is a concept borrowed from socialism in that it provides for the common good rather than the more customary privatized wealth of capitalism.

Bush’s self-proclaimed political base consisted of the wealthiest one percent of the population; and he rewarded them handsomely for their financial support. You see, elites think of themselves as privileged; more deserving of wealth than the rest of Americans. These elites believe they are our moral and intellectual superiors as a right of birth, like royalty. Thus, in only a few years of transparent class warfare Bush managed to turn the huge budget surplus he inherited into the greatest national debt in history. At the same time he essentially bankrupted the nation both economically and morally. For some reason you are blind to all these documented facts and choose to call Obama "Anti-American".

Americans need to wake up to the fact that what is at play is not Democrat versus Republican or liberal versus conservative. It is a class issue; and it has always been a class issue. This is Plutocracy in action. Are you telling me Americans cannot create a system that is neither Socialism nor Capitalism? Isn't it ironic that in US I find more homeless American's than in some third world countries? Is USA really a first world country? Something is really wrong.

You love capitalism so much. So why don't you start campaigning for government to stop giving people unemployment support, Medicare, Medicaid etc? Republications cannot do that because it's politically suicidal. So it's about politics and not about helping people?

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I agreed with most of what you said but you then lost track by suggesting that capitalism is the Christian way and Obama is anti-American. Capitalism is what motivated slavery. Some of the founding fathers had slaves because of capitalist mentality. Where these founding fathers really Christians?

During great depression Franklin Roosevelt created Social Security system, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Civilian Conservation Corps, along with a wealth of other programs of social uplift. detractors declared that he was “a traitor to his class". These stimulated the economy. Social security is a concept borrowed from socialism in that it provides for the common good rather than the more customary privatized wealth of capitalism.

Bush’s self-proclaimed political base consisted of the wealthiest one percent of the population; and he rewarded them handsomely for their financial support. You see, elites think of themselves as privileged; more deserving of wealth than the rest of Americans. These elites believe they are our moral and intellectual superiors as a right of birth, like royalty. Thus, in only a few years of transparent class warfare Bush managed to turn the huge budget surplus he inherited into the greatest national debt in history. At the same time he essentially bankrupted the nation both economically and morally. For some reason you are blind to all these documented facts and choose to call Obama "Anti-American".

Americans need to wake up to the fact that what is at play is not Democrat versus Republican or liberal versus conservative. It is a class issue; and it has always been a class issue. This is Plutocracy in action. Are you telling me Americans cannot create a system that is neither Socialism nor Capitalism? Isn't it ironic that in US I find more homeless American's than in some third world countries? Is USA really a first world country? Something is really wrong.



Geez; more education is needed. Let me teach you a few things. Obviously you lack education or intelligence. If you do not change your mind after I educate you, that leaves the latter alternative.

* "Capitalism is what motivated slavery." WRONG !!! Capitalism does NOT enslave human beings. SOCIALISM enslaves human beings. Government condoned and allowed slavery. America freed the negroes under the great REPUBLICAN President Abraham Lincoln.

* Some of the founding fathers had slaves because of capitalist mentality. Where these founding fathers really Christians?

** WRONG !!! The Modern concerpt of Capitalism refutes any idea of slavery. Do not confuse the fully developed theory of Capitalism with its predecesor; that is like comparing Human Beings to Monkeys. Likewise with Christianity. Only Socialists and Muslims accept slavery because they are like the monkeys who have not evolved.


* During great depression Franklin Roosevelt created Social Security system, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Civilian Conservation Corps, along with a wealth of other programs of social uplift. detractors declared that he was “a traitor to his class". These stimulated the economy. Social security is a concept borrowed from socialism in that it provides for the common good rather than the more customary privatized wealth of capitalism.

** WRONG WRONG WRONG !! FDR turned a recession into a depression just as the current monkey-in-chief did with his "stimulus". Social Security is bankrupt and the biggest Ponzi scheme ever. Not to mention the millions he murdered in that "Great War" against peace loving Germans who had mistakingly elected their own version of Obama and turned over Eastern Europe to the viscious Soviet Communists.


* Bush’s self-proclaimed political base consisted of the wealthiest one percent of the population; and he rewarded them handsomely for their financial support. You see, elites think of themselves as privileged; more deserving of wealth than the rest of Americans. These elites believe they are our moral and intellectual superiors as a right of birth, like royalty. Thus, in only a few years of transparent class warfare Bush managed to turn the huge budget surplus he inherited into the greatest national debt in history. At the same time he essentially bankrupted the nation both economically and morally. For some reason you are blind to all these documented facts and choose to call Obama "Anti-American".

** WRONG ! Bush and Obama follow the same socialist ideology. Bush believed in "Free housing" as a right and Obama believes in "Free Medical Care" as a right. Bush's plan ended in disaster as will Obamas. If you oppose Bush and support Obama, then you are a racist because the only difference between the two is their race. People of higher intelligence, morality and work DO deserve moere than others. Bush was successful in having the greatest economic expansion in history because of his tax cuts. This also worked under JFK - a Democrat.

* Americans need to wake up to the fact that what is at play is not Democrat versus Republican or liberal versus conservative. It is a class issue; and it has always been a class issue. This is Plutocracy in action. Are you telling me Americans cannot create a system that is neither Socialism nor Capitalism? Isn't it ironic that in US I find more homeless American's than in some third world countries? Is USA really a first world country? Something is really wrong.

** Wrong There are no involuntary "homeless" people in America. They are "urban campers" who choose that lifestyle. I will offer ANYONE a home and a place to live if they are willing to work. It is not a battle of Democrat or Republican but of Freedom vs. Slavery. Capitalism vs. Socialism. There is only the issue if people have evolved enough to embrace Freedom and Capitalism and of course Jesus Christ or if they want to remain monkeys and keep slavery, socialism and islam.

Now you have been educated and cannot blame lack of education on your ignorance; only an intelligent person will learn. I cannot help idiots.
 
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Something to chew on. If someone can come here, who doesn't speak the langauge, is not allowed to work, and can still maintain a place to live that says a lot about capitalism. This is the only country where you don't have to be homeless if you don't want to be. It's a choice. Even then, it often takes a long string of willful mistakes until the rug is finally pulled out from under someone.

fact is, Republicans freed the slaves. Republicans made equal rights law. Republicans granted amnesty in the 80s to millions of then illegals. There are still democrats in the senate or congress who were former KKK members. Well, they say they are former. No one has verified that. Dem supporters are blinded by the disinformation by the socialist press who's stated goal is to destroy this country and turn it into a marxist regime where they will assume authority over you. It's not about freebies. It's about selling out your liberty.




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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Something to chew on. If someone can come here, who doesn't speak the langauge, is not allowed to work, and can still maintain a place to live that says a lot about capitalism. This is the only country where you don't have to be homeless if you don't want to be. It's a choice. Even then, it often takes a long string of willful mistakes until the rug is finally pulled out from under someone.

fact is, Republicans freed the slaves. Republicans made equal rights law. Republicans granted amnesty in the 80s to millions of then illegals. There are still democrats in the senate or congress who were former KKK members. Well, they say they are former. No one has verified that. Dem supporters are blinded by the disinformation by the socialist press who's stated goal is to destroy this country and turn it into a marxist regime where they will assume authority over you. It's not about freebies. It's about selling out your liberty.


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Free housing = Free Medical Care = Slavery.

Obama wants "free" medical care. In order for something to be "free" someone's labor must be free. One way is to require Doctor's and Nurses to work for free. They would be slaves. If they refuse, we could put them in jail or execute them. This is what they did to the slaves on plantations. NO DIFFERENCE at all. However, the AMA and Nurses unions are too powerful and outright slavery would not be accepted. Another alternative is to make each of us a "partial slave" through taxation. A proportion of our labor is forcibly taken away "for the common good". The Confederates supported by the Democrats wanted outright slavery of negroes to support the plantation system. This was too blatant and the Republicans freed the negroes. But the Democrats were not to be stopped. They began the KKK to intimidate people. That was too ugly for the good Americans and again they were rejected. The Democrats changed their style but not their philiosphy. They started the "New Deal" and World Wars to once again impose their will on free people and enslave us. Now slavery is not done with chains and whips but with taxation and the IRS. The Republicans defeated them again and again until the 1980's with men like Ronald Reagan. So the Democrats sent in straw men to destroy the Republican Party. Disguised as Conservatives, they unleashed the most virulent liberal socialist warmongers in history, who signed IMBRA and invited 9/11, and opened the door to an admitted socialist and terrorist to bring back slavery. Slavery is wrong in all its forms. Lincoln said "If slavery is not wrong, then nothing is". If you oppose slavery, you would oppose plantations slavery, you would oppose socialism, you would oppose government interferring with the housing market, you would oppose abortion, you would oppose islam, you would oppose so-called health care reform as described, you would oppose Obama.
 
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Hello I accidentally married a fat American woman and would like to have her deported back to America but she is too fat to get in a plane. Can someone help me please? Thank you.


 
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You are now more wrong that you were before; I advise you to jump out of the box.

***{Capitalism does NOT enslave human beings.}

(WRONG) When I say capitalism is enslaving people I am not talking of people walking in neck & leg irons. Modern slaves are slaves with a salary mainly enough to buy bread. The translation is that all men are not equal. Both Capitalism & Socialism enslave people.

***{The Modern concerpt of Capitalism refutes any idea of slavery. Do not confuse the fully developed theory of Capitalism with its predecesor; that is like comparing Human Beings to Monkeys. Likewise with Christianity. Only Socialists and Muslims accept slavery because they are like the monkeys who have not evolved.}

(WRONG) Today, most Americans are slaves to the elite banking cabal and its stranglehold on the financial system. Americans are under the delusion that they live within a system of open markets, fair trade, and free market system. The truth is that everything most Americans take for democracy and freedom are actually control measures designed to enslave them within a matrix controlled by the elite families who have been in power many, many years..

***{Bush and Obama follow the same socialist ideology. Bush believed in "Free housing" as a right and Obama believes in "Free Medical Care" as a right. Bush's plan ended in disaster as will Obamas. If you oppose Bush and support Obama, then you are a racist because the only difference between the two is their race. People of higher intelligence, morality and work DO deserve moere than others. Bush was successful in having the greatest economic expansion in history because of his tax cuts. This also worked under JFK - a Democrat.}

(WRONG) You say Obama is socialist because believes in "Free Medical Care" as a right? So do you advocate for the removal Medicare? You said “Bush was successful in having the greatest economic expansion in history because of his tax cuts”? Are you serious? C’mon! Your claims are not supported by available data. Bush tax cut did very little to help the economy. In their approach, the most wealthy, most fortunate, richest 1% of Americans received 75% of the gains in income across the overall economy over six to eight years," but employment figures didn’t show any significant improvement.

***{There are no involuntary "homeless" people in America. They are "urban campers" who choose that lifestyle. I will offer ANYONE a home and a place to live if they are willing to work. It is not a battle of Democrat or Republican but of Freedom vs. Slavery. Capitalism vs. Socialism. There is only the issue if people have evolved enough to embrace Freedom and Capitalism and of course Jesus Christ or if they want to remain monkeys and keep slavery, socialism and islam.}

(WRONG) I see you have an Ostrich mentality of hiding your head in the sand. I should alert you to the fact that there are many homeless people including veterans in America. Don’t deny their existence simply because you don’t know them. http://www1.va.gov/Homeless/
Here is the general populace; http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/why.html
http://www.policyalmanac.org/s...lfare/homeless.shtml

Again, you need to leap out of the box and stop seeing things in just black and white. You are wrong in believing that if it’s not socialism then it has to be capitalism.
 
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You believe in secret societies?

Explain this:

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Today, most Americans are slaves to the elite banking cabal and its stranglehold on the financial system. Americans are under the delusion that they live within a system of open markets, fair trade, and free market system. The truth is that everything most Americans take for democracy and freedom are actually control measures designed to enslave them within a matrix controlled by the elite families who have been in power many, many years.



If I can buy and sell what I chose, how is that not a free market? If anyone is afforded the opportunity to become prosperous, how is that enslavement? If you don't want to become a slave to a loan, don't borrow. Save your money and buy it when you have the money to pay for it outright.




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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Originally posted by iperson:1 in 3 people are uninsured in Houston, Texas.
Did you also know we're losing about 3000 people each two months, the same amount as on 9/11 due to lack of health insurance?


Insurance does not equal medical care. The 3000 a month people that die from accidents or mistakes will not be helped by socilaized medicine; Government makes far more mistakes than private industry. People die by hospiatl mistakes at a far higher rate in Canada and France and other countries. Or are you so stupid to believe that accidents and mistakes will not be made under government? If so then you are truly ignorant and incapable of learning.
 
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but it will cost less because of govt subsidies.


Coming from whose pocket?????


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Rofl, Michael, Michael, I almost spilled my tea all over my laptop. Do you really believe in all that you just said?
You are so detached from reality, it's funny.

Please read this diary:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...Treatment-in-Houston

1 in 3 people are uninsured in Houston, Texas.
Did you also know we're losing about 3000 people each two months, the same amount as on 9/11 due to lack of health insurance?


What’s astounding is that Reagan didn't do anything about health care for 8 years; senior Bush didn't do anything about it for 8 years, only for Republications to oppose it during Clinton. Then came the other Bush who did nothing about it for 8 years. Now Republicans are at it again opposing health care reform by Obama. They are now telling us they have a better alternative, C'mon! How come we didn’t hear about the alternative when Bush was in office. Do republications really care about those suffering without health care? What’s mind-boggling is that they are the ones who are quick to tout the Christian value doctrine.
 
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Rofl, Michael, Michael, I almost spilled my tea all over my laptop. Do you really believe in all that you just said?
You are so detached from reality, it's funny.

Please read this diary:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...Treatment-in-Houston

1 in 3 people are uninsured in Houston, Texas.
Did you also know we're losing about 3000 people each two months, the same amount as on 9/11 due to lack of health insurance?


What’s astounding is that Reagan didn't do anything about health care for 8 years; senior Bush didn't do anything about it for 8 years, only for Republications to oppose it during Clinton. Then came the other Bush who did nothing about it for 8 years. Now Republicans are at it again opposing health care reform by Obama. They are now telling us they have a better alternative, C'mon! How come we didn’t hear about the alternative when Bush was in office. Do republications really care about those suffering without health care? What’s mind-boggling is that they are the ones who are quick to tout the Christian value doctrine.


Health care reform is needed. I believe Bush's agenda was full. He tried to address immigration reform and look how that turned out. There's middle ground for HCR. If the Dems and Repubs would stop pointing fingers at each other, they might accomplish this. But, they can't include a public option and expect the wealthier segment of America to fund it. They have to come up with a better alternative. Tax and spend is what gets the Dems voted out every time.


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