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<Amen Sammy!>
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I agree with Sammy on this one!
 
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To Alex,
Whatevr your reasons are go ahead and report the spam marriage!!!!I am discusted by all the people who get into these marriages and receive there green cards etc.while a USC married(real marriage not for green card)to a now illegal immigrant because of the visa type he/she had was not able to adjust status.And we are waiting for some changes which will allow us to file for green card,while all these spam marriages going on.It is absolutely disgusting!!!
 
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deport illegal aliens
 
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Don't know if it was a typo or not but "spam" marriages! I like that, LOL :)
 
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Sammy is right on the money!
 
Posts: 13 | Registered: 08-29-2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I ma not sure who this "Alex" is, but looks like,this person is more jelous about that marriage than anything else.
Cause, from reading what that little junior said,its not him or her who is married,its someone else.So he or her being a thrird party from the outside wants to report a "fraud marriage" give me a f'n break loser.

You can't do ****, get over it, you are or were never that person types,so just accept the marriage idiot.
I would not listen to you either if you would have called me saying "I know this married couple and I know,the marriage is not real and its about green card" the first question to any logical person that would pop up hearing that "well who the F... are you to know that,if you are not even living with them" lol

Its more shocking how many of you just went and go ahead and try to answer his question,without reading between the lines lol.

And another thing,if you are ,yourself married to an alien and you realizd its a fake,well how can you report your own stupidity to get married to someone you basically did not know s*h*i*t about, before reporting fraud,report yourself for being a jabroni.
And after all whats the point....you guys have to get over it.Mainly its all about being jelous or the alien you married for some reason fall in love with someone else...and all the anger pops up yadi ya "this can't be true,its fraud,i want her/him to deported"

To all you I'Q-less people, The Immigration ONLY cares,if the marriage was enetered in good faith....

And listen what that idiot wrote, I want her to be deported.He is jelous big time..something else must have going on,or he cought his "own" wife humping another man lol....
I told ya, be carefull if you wanna get married to a woman from russia you met online lol aka purchased online lol or what not.

Bottom line...You can't do **** about it.
 
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An oldie but goodie




Impeach Obama !
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SOM - THE VOICE OF REASON
 
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Whoever the ididot is wih the chip - sorry boulder on their shoulder please - get a life! Don't waste our time with nonsense drivel. It sounds like you got dumped - and no wonder! This is a place for serious immigration discussion not a vendetta forum.
 
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Yeah, to the one who started this stupid thread.
 
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Reporting something like this to the 'CIS is not vindictive, but the right thing to do in order to rid oneself of the I-864.
 
Posts: 429 | Registered: 02-08-2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Well, as a victim of fraud- and as a person that's reported it- I had no reservations reporting my alleged ex-spouse. The evidence was quite clear against her; I had no idea prior to the marriage what her intentions were; and I felt not reporting her could be construed as active participation. I certainly didn't do that. If you're going to report someone, don't let it be for anger, revenge or vindication. If I'm not mistaken, there are penalties for any intentional misrepresention. But, those who replied that little will be done once the report is filed are absolutely right unless the alleged criminal is considered a threat to national security. If anything- if your intent is pure; if your conscience is clear; if you truly weren't involved; and you want closure on the issue- file the report. The act of reporting in itself is not vindictive- only the motive behind the action can be vindictive. I have to admit- when I discovered fraud in my alleged marrige, I was p___d and I felt betrayed and decieved (what person who truly entered the marriage in good faith wouldn't feel that way?), so I filed for an annulment without providing any warning to her whatsoever to relieve myself of any obligations to this person; to end the marriage and start the healing process; but, because I loved my alleged wife I delayed the reporting for several months- I had to make sure that anger was not the fuel for my report. If it wasn't based on principle and self-respect, then I would not have filed the report. Filing for divorce or suing for fraud and settling for divorce are viable options for you (the former being much quicker), as most "fraudsters" seek only to be successful committing the fraud and not having an annulment stall or prevent such progress. File for dissolution, file the report, cut off all communications, stop worrying about it and move on with your life. There are billions of single people in the world- end this relationship, go find one who gives a s___t about you and leave the rest alone. You'll be better off for it.
 
Posts: 18 | Location: Dallas, TX | Registered: 06-09-2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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unless you have solid proof - uscis won't care.

marraige doesn't hekp illegals anyways - so it doesn't help most of the mexicans out there.

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Posts: 1061 | Location: la, ca | Registered: 10-13-2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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the person, who raped me decided to report me for a sham marriage to the immigrations. There is a good possibility INS will believe you, even if you are a convicted felony. So, good luck.
 
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exclI think krisi's right- I think they may very well believe you; and, I also believe that it may be possible for a rapist (the most disgusting and abusive person on Earth) to possibly use the system to divert attention away from his own abuses. I guess my situation was different in that I was the one who was abused- I almost died. How sad- I'm sorry you had to go through that.
 
Posts: 18 | Location: Dallas, TX | Registered: 06-09-2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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DoctorAndLawyer2B


I went through your exact same situation about a year ago.

Care to exchange thoughts with me?
 
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i have more 'privy' information than a lot of you posters.

let me say this slowly:

NO ONE AT INS/DHS/FBI/BLAH will give a rat's *** if u call to report a sham marraige. It basically gets entered into a system to 'record trends'. Statistical purposes. Some old **** reads it at the end of the year.

Unless you have PROOF of a money-generating scam operation bilking muiltitudes of scam marraiges - ice or no one will even blink an eye.

so get your revenge some other way. The usg has no desire to become a tool for you.

USCIS already knows of many scam marraiges. But the pressure is to 'stamp' away. Cuz denying, processing removal, deporting, jail, court time, lawyers, dealing with kids - is $$$expensive.

(btw: Everytime they don't stamp approval - the us taxpayers get a $50,000 bill. They always remind DAO's that. But they are taught to put the scare into people tho. This is by no means an advocation to conduct scam marraiges. some offices could change their sop overnight).

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i have more 'privy' information than a lot of you posters.

let me say this slowly:

NO ONE AT INS/DHS/FBI/BLAH will give a rat's *** if u call to report a sham marraige. It basically gets entered into a system to 'record trends'. Statistical purposes. Some old **** reads it at the end of the year.

Unless you have PROOF of a money-generating scam operation bilking muiltitudes of scam marraiges - ice or no one will even blink an eye.

so get your revenge some other way. The usg has no desire to become a tool for you.

USCIS already knows of many scam marraiges. But the pressure is to 'stamp' away. Cuz denying, processing removal, deporting, jail, court time, lawyers, dealing with kids - is $$$expensive.

(btw: Everytime they don't stamp approval - the us taxpayers get a $50,000 bill. They always remind DAO's that. But they are taught to put the scare into people tho. This is by no means an advocation to conduct scam marraiges. some offices could change their sop overnight).

n


Interesting commentary, but not entirely true. Wink <also privvy>


The above is simply an opinion. Your mileage may vary. For immigration issues, please consult an immigration attorney.
 
Posts: 1175 | Location: ..the natural world | Registered: 06-13-2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I was involved in a realtionship for a period of time where the girl was pending citizenship. I was told an abundance of fabricated lies to gain my affection. We lived together for some time. She's currently married to someone that is in Florida, and she is in Las Vegas. She is involved in helping other peolle that she knows in Brasil meet people here to mary them to come over. This is something that I was against from the start, and is what ended our relationship. I'm not acting out on jealusy. I just think it's wrong to marry someone for the sole purpose of living in the US. It takes away jobs of the people that don't have one. It fills our country with people that have no morals. The one that realy broke all ties is the fact that she said that since her friends dont speak much english that they would have to work the streets as a hooker. To me that fits into human traficking. So I've been doing some research to see where and how to report this.
 
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I feel your pain.

My alleged ex-spouse was part of a human trafficking ring; was engaged in prostitution but was not convicted on a technicality (video evidence disavowed and the ringleader was quoted as threatening her life and forcing her into the activity). She had ten years of undocumented presence in The United States; was disinterested in becoming a mother and incapable of conceiving or bearing children; had no plans on remaining in The US beyond the removal of her conditions; left me abandoned in a hospital after a serious automobile accident that ended my medical career; lied under oath in her adjustment of status interview; forged my signature on documents to acquire credit; admitted fraud in our marriage and the one before it; and she misrepresented interest bourne from stocks, bonds and dividends. Had I known these things to be true, I would never have married The Respondent (it is still difficult to call her my "wife" because I discovered and proved fraud). I should be bitter; but I am encouraged and enlightened because I found out sooner than later.

If you have evidence of human trafficking, it must be reported to an Immigration and Customs Enforcement hotline. If you have evidence of marriage fraud, file for annulment and cease all contaact with the alleged spouse. If you have evidence of tax evasion, claim innocent spouse and notify the Internal Revenue Service of your findings without delay. Close all joint accounts. Notify any landlords or property managers or utilities companies that you are no longer together- that you will not be responsible for any billing beyond the date you notified them of the separation. Write a letter to the USCIS, certified, with the beneficiary's A-number, address, phone number, place of work or place of education with full details (only verifiable details, not emotions or hearsay) and any CONCRETE evidence you have supporting your fraud allegation. At the end of that letter, formally request to withdraw your support for the petition and the reason why.

In the courts fraud is difficult to prove even if you have a mountain of evidence like I did, there is no guarantee the judge will be sympathetic or at the very least competent. You might be better suing for fraud, sweating it out and settling for divorce if and only if your financial, emotional and legal interests are fully protected. After all, most individuals who commit fraud desire to get away with it over getting tried, fined and/or imprisoned for it. I assure you- all a criminal's attorneys would want is to keep the evidence I had out of the court room.

I'm sorry you've had this happen to you. It is unfortunate, it is unfair and it is wrong. But, my advice to you is this: Crystalize your thoughts about this alleged fraud with paper and pen; assemble your evidence; send it to the director of the location that handles the situation at hand (in my case it was Laguna Beach, California for I-751); set an appointment to visit your local USCIS branch and tell them your story; hand them copies of the evidence; verify receipt or all letters; settle and move on. Your life will improve drastically and you will find happiness beyond your wildest dreams.

Best of luck- your alleged spouse's actions will catch up with them. There is no need for you to lose another night of sleep or another minute of stress or worry over this person. After all- your time and your effort and your love will one day be accepted by someone unconditionally and totally; and a real spouse will give it back without demanding reciprocity, a signature and a lie.

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I should clarify that we were not married. She was actually in the process of divorcing while we were together and the attorney said that it would be better if she waited if she wanted to guaranty her citizenship. So will my reporting her even "red flag" her status?
 
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