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Here some examples of laws on the books today in some states.

[URL=http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states

You can find these laws and more at the link above

Did you know that in at least one state it is illegal to commit adultery?


(I have to wonder how many people have broke these law. That would make you a criminal. You broke a law and haven't paid for your crime. I wonder how we could reverse that crime.)

"Adultery actually is against the law in ***.

Defined as engaging "in sexual intercourse with another person who is not his spouse and lives in cohabitation with that other person when he or that other person is married," adultery is a class B misdemeanor, punishable by a $1,000 fine. Which, by the way, is $9,000 less than you will have to pay if convicted in ** for selling a vibrator (state lawmakers banned the sale of *** toys five years ago)."

You may not wear blue jeans down Noble Street.

No person may spit on the floor of a church.

It is illegal to bike, roller-skate, skateboard, or inline skate in a commercially zoned area.

Men who deflower virgins, regardless of age or marital status, may face up to five years in jail.

If an animal control officer is in uniform, it signifies to the public that he is an animal control officer.

the state does, for some reason, have a law prohibiting the playing of dominoes on Sunday).

You can't steal. That's definitely against the law. Even for politicians and judges.


Bearing false witness -- against neighbors, friends, enemies, or complete strangers -- is definitely a no-no. Provided you do so under oath. In that case, it's perjury, and it's punishable by up to 10 years in jail. Outside of court, there's no statute against fibbing about your neighbor.

It is illegal to wear a fake moustache that causes laughter in church.

Putting salt on a railroad track may be punishable by death.

Boogers may not be flicked into the wind.

It is legal to drive the wrong way down a one-way street if you have a lantern attached to the front of your automobile.

You must have windshield wipers on your car.

You may not have an ice cream cone in your back pocket at any time.

Masks may not be worn in public.

Women are able to retain all property they owned prior to marriage in the case of divorce. However, this provision does not apply to men.


It is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle.

It is illegal to sell peanuts in County after sundown on Wednesday.

Women may not wear a 'lewd dress' in public.

No one may use a 'funk ball' within the city limits.

Bathing in city fountains is prohibited.

No person within the city may possess confetti.

It is illegal to spit orange peels on the sidewalk.

'Spray String' is banned.

Most locales do not have this problem, but ** found it necessary to ban bicycles from the interstate highways.

If one wishes to read palms in the city, they must first pay $10 for a permit.

It is illegal to howl at ladies within the city limits.

It is unlawful to wear women's pumps with sharp, high heels.

It is considered an offense to open an umbrella on a street, for fear of spooking horses.

It is illegal to use profanity in front of a dead body which lies in a funeral home or in a coroners office.

Against the law to tie a giraffe to a telephone pole or street lamp.

One man may not be on another man's back.

Members of the state assembly cannot be ticketed for speeding while the state assembly is in session.

Donkeys may not be kept in bathtubs.

No one may carry an ice cream cone in their back pocket if it is Sunday.

All citizens must own a rake.

Adult bookstores may not sell alcohol.

If you want to read your favorite book in public to your friends, do it before 2:45 AM.

Massage businesses may not sell alcohol on the side.

Selling two beers at once for the same price is not allowed.

Though being forced to close your business is bad enough, County forces one to obtain a license before holding a Going-Out-Of-Business sale.

Goldfish may not be given away to entice someone to enter a game of bingo.

Owners of mules may not allow their animal to roam around unsupervised.

Persons under the age of 16 may not play pinball after 11:00 PM.

It is illegal for one to make a disturbing sound at a fair.

On Mondays, it is illegal for one to whistle very loud after 11:00 PM.Full Text


It is illegal to carve your initials on a tree, even if it is on your own property.

Model airplanes may be flown so long as they stay on either private property or city property adjacent to the county morgue.

Blow guns are not allowed to be used within the city limits.

Cussing over the telephone is against the law.

No one may tease an idiot.

It is illegal to wear a hat in a movie theater.

Crosses may be burned on someone else’s property, so long as you have their permission.

To swim in any pond in the city, one must wear a ‘suitable bathing suit’.

Barber shops may not open on Sundays.

Stink bombs are not allowed in the city limits.

Picnics are prohibited in graveyards.

No person may be buried under a sidewalk of a cemetery.

Town records may not be kept where liquor is sold.

You can be stopped by the police for biking over 65 miles per hour.

In order for a pickle to officially be considered a pickle, it must bounce.

It is illegal to dispose of used razor blades.

You cannot buy any alcohol after 9pm or on Sundays after noon.

It is illegal to discharge a firearm from a public highway.

It is unlawful to walk backwards after sunset.

Only white Christmas lights are allowed for display.

You aren't allowed to cross a street while walking on your hands.

You may not educate dogs.

It is illegal for a man to kiss his wife on Sunday.

It is illegal for fire trucks to exceed 25mph, even when going to a fire.

It is illegal for any beautician to hum, whistle, or sing while working on a customer.


Illegal for a man to give his sweetheart a box of candy weighing less than fifty pounds.

You may not fish on a camel's back.

Riding a merry-go-round on Sundays is considered a crime.

Residents may not fish from a giraffe's back.

If a police officer approaches a vehicle and suspects that the occupants are engaging in ***, he must either honk, or flash his lights and wait for three minutes before approaching the car.

Dirt may not be swept from one?s house into the street.

Bicycles are not allowed in the tennis courts.

Persons may not camp out on sidewalks in the city.

A law passed in 1912 provided that "The carrying of concealed weapons is forbidden, unless some are exhibited to public view.

A person may not be seen in public without a smile on their face.


These are just from 4 states.

Here are some international laws

It is illegal to leave your house if you are not wearing underwear.

You must wear a shirt while driving a car.

You must pay a fine of $600 in Thailand if you're caught throwing away chewed bubble gum on the sidewalk.

No one may step of any of the nation's currency.
(Remember this when you are stomping on that peso)
All land must be left to the eldest son.

Divorces are outlawed.

Those wishing to purchase a television must also buy a license.

With the exception of carrots, most goods may not be sold on Sunday.

All males over the age 14 are to carry out 2 or so hours of longbow practice a week supervised by the local clergy.

It is illegal to be drunk on Licensed Premises (in a pub or bar).

It is illegal for two adult men to have *** in the same house as a third person.

Any person found breaking a boiled egg at the sharp end will be sentenced to 24 hours in the village stocks.

A bed may not be hung out of a window.

It is illegal for a lady to eat chocolates on a public conveyance.

Any boy under the age of 10 may not see a naked manequin.

It is illegal to leave baggage unattended.

Picking up abandoned baggage is an act of terrorism

It is amazing that we elect people to make laws like this. Well, maybe we didn't elect them. But, we did elect people who should have been able to clean up the mess.

One major law that has been removed was the law involving colored people using white facilities.
There are laws that need to be changed. Tax and Immigration laws are two of those that need to be changed. They need to be cleaned up and simplified. Since Bush's no child left behind law, maybe pictures should be included. Our children are not getting the education they deserve. Instead we are paying politicans to set on their hands, smile in our face and pat us on the head. Wonderful world isn't it?
 
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If anyone knows someone who broke one of these laws, I say report them.
 
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If anyone knows someone who broke one of these laws, I say report them.


You just did. Should I report you?

"No one may tease an idiot."

You are teasing the two main idiots of this forum, SunRabidUSA and SomeDumb12.
 
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But remember, the 9/11 hijackers "played by the messy rules" that were readily available at the time. There is where, like you, I'm having serious issues with.[quote]

Actually the rules were broken .. as in interviews waived etc. because they were from Saudi Arabia. (Saudi can do no wrong so gov agencies are instructed to break the rules for them) As matter of fact when the one bin laden tape was found ..the usa edited the tape (fraud} becasue they were some saudi in there and they said usa did not want to embarass their saudi friends. Hello.. dont you think there is something wrong with this picture Americans?????

Hmmm. Dont you find it unsual that there were not any iraqi pilots..? and wouldnt it seem like we should have been invading Saudi arabia instead Wink
 
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One major law that has been removed was the law involving colored people using white facilities.
There are laws that need to be changed. Tax and Immigration laws are two of those that need to be changed. They need to be cleaned up and simplified. Since Bush's no child left behind law, maybe pictures



The reason we can't have no child left behind is we are trying and educate a bunch of kids that can't and are told they don't need to speak English. Pictures would be nice. Pictures of USC children who are being denied a decent education because of this invasion. That moron senator crying for the one Equadorian girl couldn't care less about the black kids down the street from his office. He is a fraud who is only concerned about gaining more hispanic votes with his phony diatribe. Funny thing is, many of you fell for it. Who was it that said it was a good speech? You must be high if you couldn't see through that.

The laws are changing. Immigration is getting the attention it deserves and will no doubt be tightened up. Much to the exclusion and teary eyes of those south of the border.

Someone12 made a comment earlier asking if a person would aid a criminal with a get away car. Or support an assault with better weapons. For anyone with an IQ higher than your average roach the answer is no. But looking back on prior posts there were individuals who applauded illegal drug dealers who escaped in an immigration truck. They support drug dealers coming into our country and poisoning our children. Speaks volumes to their true inhuman despicable character.


You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
 
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You know something Davdah

you are correct in this assesment. Sometimes people for a cause forget the true cause. they get caught up. If people are cheering for drug dealers to outsmart immigration... this is sad, and they have forgotten the real cause they were fighting for or maybe just dont care.. and want to be anti-us government and are willing to help all illegals ..criminal or non criminals. Frown

In anyway.. this reminds me of those activists who fight for "prison inmate rights" I always ask myself.. what the **** is that... inmate rights Confused You lost your "rights" that is why you are behind bars. that is why now they get movies tv. conjugal visits and not even married I hear. helloooooo wake up america.

and yes you are right. the black american gets forgotten in this education quest. it is incredible what politicians have said and done over the years under the name of why blacks cannot be helped.. and what programs they put in place to help blacks. Gore is most idiotic democrat by giving something like 8 million dollars to midnight basketball in the project housing. Someone please tell me what good did that do. idiot legislators.. and this is what scares me when the democratic/Socialistic minded candidate will take over.. the stupid spending and proposals will be out of control as usual.
 
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Rough Neighbor,

Why do you think I am racist? Just because I believe EVERYONE should respect the law? Believe me, I treat everybody the same, regarless of their race, religion, legal status, etc. I do admit that I dont have the highest regards for people who make poor irresponsible choices (like buying a house that they clearly can't afford and then complain about the payments, dropping of high school, have unprotected ***, and so on) but I still treat them in a polite and courteous way.

I believe the racial card is overplayed. I can't stand Al Sharpton and La Raza. For them everything is discrimination. They are as bad as white supremacist.


As you can see, I used the auxiliary verb “might” because based on the tone of your posts then and now, there’s a “probability” or “possibility” of your being “so.” No, I didn’t judge you. You’re right – I just “thought” that it “might” be the case.

You said you’re currently teaching, used to be a lawyer, came on a K-1 visa, (did it the “right” way), and now a USC – a praiseworthy path. I was born here (purely fate), but raised somewhere else (half destiny – half choice).

In the course of the performance of your duties, you teach the kids of 99% illegal immigrants, where federal money SHOULDN’T be spent. You carry out your duties (professional obligation) and you treat everyone “in a polite and courteous way” (social mandate), and yet, at the back of your mind, and in the deep recesses of your heart, there’s that constantly screaming anger, and of rejection, because “your country is doing it all WRONG.”

But for just a second, let me remind you of a landmark case law dated June 15, 1982, where the US Supreme Court settled this debate once and for all, in Matter of Plyler v. Doe, that held: “A Texas statute which withholds from local school districts any state funds for the education of children who were not "legally admitted" into the United States, and which authorizes local school districts to deny enrollment to such children, violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Pp. 210-230.” (emphasis mine). But of course this is with due respect to your First Amendment rights to express your own feelings too.

Though you never ask, I also work with “illegal” children (and mostly with their families), but, unlike you, in a non-governmental capacity – it’s more of a vocation, or a calling, than a profession, I leave the bread-winning burden to my better-half. But instead of a “screaming anger” that comes off from inside my heart and mind, it’s always about a song of praise, for the gift of life to all humanity.

But anyway, let’s go back to our topic at hand, which is about racism. Its accepted meaning, in the global community of nations, goes: “any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, color, descent, or national or ethnic origin which has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life." (emphasis mine).

You mentioned about “Al Sharpton, La Raza, and white supremacist.” As we both know, each represents and champions the causes of each of their respective “races, descents, or ethnic origins.” You seem to reject and dislike all of them. In contrast, I keep to myself whether I agree or disagree with whatever advocacies they advance or promote. But all the time, I respect their inalienable freedoms of “speech,” of the “press,” to “peaceably assemble,” and to “petition the Government for a redress of [their] grievances.”

Likewise, since I joined this forum, I haven’t made any reference, classification, prejudice, “distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference” to any group in particular, except, perhaps, when I mentioned my commonly-shared abhorrence of criminality and religious extremism. They intentionally inflict harm, sow hatred, promote terror, and annihilate the advances of civilization, hence, every individual in all nations should unite in the rejection of their activities and campaign.

Each time I look in the mirror, I can see an image that is at peace with itself, with humanity, and with the universe. I seldom wear much make up, but lots and lots of smile, sincere smile, that emanates from a clear mind and a peaceful heart. I hope and pray you be the same way.






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I wish you would make up your mind on what side of the fence you stand on!
 
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[Likewise, since I joined this forum, I haven’t made any reference, classification, prejudice, “distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference” to any group in particular, except, perhaps, when I mentioned my commonly-shared abhorrence of criminality and religious extremism. They intentionally inflict harm, sow hatred, promote terror, and annihilate the advances of civilization, hence, every individual in all nations should unite in the rejection of their activities and campaign[quote]


But when Davdah said this in the Senate Bill thread


[quote]Maybe a reminder might help. Its just down the street senator. Go take a look.

http://www.jtf.org/america/ooo.black.crime.washington.slum.small.jpg [quote]


You replied back with this.. and it surprised me

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[quote]No legislation is necessary for those who have all the chances in the world but choose to bungle them. [quote]


And this really seemed to me that you think undocumented who sneak in are more deserving of help than black americans. and you are not alone in this kind of thinking.. and I think that this is what Davdah is trying to point out to you.

You may not even be aware that you think like this.. but out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks.

Use the monies to help fix problems america is facing for their own citizens first. thats is what is most important.
 
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Yehbah, 4now! You tried to pick out one statement independently from the rest of the exchanges to pin me down?

Here was the flow of "our" conversation on the topic ‘Senate Bills’:
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Houston: The statement on the H1-B visas is the secret weapon of Durbin and company... He's 100% right about that too!

davdah: (quoting Sen. Durbin) ‘Don't tell me tomorrow you need HB-1 visas because we need more talented people," he said to his Senate colleagues. "Give these children a chance."’


That last comment should have read

Don't tell me tomorrow you need HB-1 visas because we need more talented people," he said to his Senate colleagues. "Give OUR OWN children a chance first. Lets grant in state tuition to children of USC and legal residence first."


Houston: This has to be one of the best speeches I've seen on immigration and basic fairness. Good for Sen. Durbin!

RN: "In-state tuition grants" provision isn't one of the components of the two most recent versions of DREAM Act. The prospective beneficiaries should attain the required two-year college education on their own, or would otherwise be eligible to apply for student loans, just like the rest. The word "rewarding" is a smear campaign. How about "dealing with" or "managing" the problem at hand? Anyway, that's again water under the bridge now.


davdah: Saw the speach. Honestly, it was nothing more than a pander for the hispanic vote. If the senator was so concerned about giving kids a chance as he repeated a million times. Why not give the kids who live down the street in the slums of D.C. a chance? Thats my only question.
Wouldn't have to go all the way out to Missouri for the poster child either.

Maybe a reminder might help. Its just down the street senator. Go take a look.

http://www.jtf.org/america/ooo.black.crime.washington.slum.small.jpg

RN: No legislation is necessary for those who have all the chances in the world but choose to bungle them.


davdah: Have you lived in a slum before? Dodged bullets flying through your front windows? Go take a walk in their shoes before judging their bungled opportunities

Would you pay for your neighbors children to go to college over your own. No? why not? They deserve it just as much if not more than yours. Do that and your children will turn on you.


RN: Yes, I did, not in the US but somewhere else, and for a long time. But wherever, slum areas have common characteristics. They're comprised of dwellers with both societal and personal issues, but who are mostly "locals," meaning, in the US context, these people are "documented" (for the sake of this discourse, "mostly" having no problems with immigration brouhaha). Being so, outward avenues are there for them whenever they so choose. Let me qualify what I said before – no legislation is necessary to impose what choices in life an individual needs to follow, otherwise, it's dictatorship.


RN: DREAM Act doesn't provide for alien beneficiaries' free state or federal tuition fees, just opportunities to come out of the open, follow their dreams, with strict incentives from the government, a fair chance, but if they bungled it, they're gone.
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4now, who raised the point in the conversation about “the kids who live down the street in the slums of D.C.? (complete with an accompanying avatar)!” I’m dead sure it wasn’t me.

Actually, I went out of my way to “qualify” my statement in reference to them (that one line that you narrowly picked out and abused for your shallow argument), because for once in my life I also lived like them.

Now show me your real point please. Better luck next time.

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... [quote]Maybe a reminder might help. Its just down the street senator. Go take a look.

http://www.jtf.org/america/ooo.black.crime.washington.slum.small.jpg [quote]


You replied back with this.. and it surprised me

Rough Neighbor Quote:

[quote]No legislation is necessary for those who have all the chances in the world but choose to bungle them. [quote]


And this really seemed to me that you think undocumented who sneak in are more deserving of help than black americans. and you are not alone in this kind of thinking.. and I think that this is what Davdah is trying to point out to you.

You may not even be aware that you think like this.. but out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks.

Use the monies to help fix problems america is facing for their own citizens first. thats is what is most important.


Another hypocrisy in its abundance. How could what type of humanity that constitutes slums be summarily judged by the measure of skin color? Humanism flows forth like a spring water, not to be pumped up by a discordant babbling like profusely shown above.






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4now, who raised the point in the conversation about “the kids who live down the street in the slums of D.C.? (complete with an accompanying avatar)!” I’m dead sure it wasn’t me.


No.. it was DavDah..this is how this discourse got shaped

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Actually, I went out of my way to “qualify” my statement in reference to them (that one line that you narrowly picked out and abused for your shallow argument), because for once in my life I also lived like them. [quote]


And you said

No legislation is necessary for those who have all the chances in the world but choose to bungle them.

then you said it again.. but more PC

[quote]no legislation is necessary to impose what choices in life an individual needs to follow, otherwise, it's dictatorship.[quote]



You said the same thing.

the one line covered your thought. it was not out of context.. AT ALL


It was not abused and it is not a shallow argument, because the bottom line is that you supporteducation benefit going to undocumented/illegals over underpriviledged american children And your reasoning is because they bungled the opportunities

did it ever occur to you that their parents bungled the opportunity for those kids? Isnt that what you are asking americans to forgive on the part of these undocumented kids?Well I say in my "so called shallow argument"... that Charity and forgiveness should start at home ! (legal residents)



[quote]Another hypocrisy in its abundance. How could what type of humanity that constitutes slums be summarily judged by the measure of skin color? Humanism flows forth like a spring water, not to be pumped up by a discordant babbling like profusely shown above.



DavDah made the reference to Black Americans. It is his point in this thread. It was his whole reference about the slum in D.C relative to his statement about the "black kid" down the street. There is no hypocrisy there on my part.

SLUM IS SLUM many ethnics and whites live in slums and poverty. POVERTY is an equal opportunity employer.

DAvdah and I are just saying.... why not take this "babbling" spring of humanism into these USA slums to the underprivledged children who have had their opportunities bungled by their USC parents. Davdah has merely singled out the black american kid as he feels that they have received the shortest end of the stick. and he appears to be correct in this assesment from much that I see here. Likewise I agree that the Al sharptons etc. only seem to make it worse for them becuase this type individuals only harps on racist issues and does not focus on the importance of education or try to encourage any programs to be set in place to help the parents understand the importance of it, and how it could actually change their lives for a solid future. These Al sharpton/Jessie Jackson type people promote hate by negative remarks referring to the educated people like Colin Powell, Condi Rice and the Obamas of this country . This country must set out to kill the enemy... IGNORANCE and the LEADERS of IGNORANCE! Only then will progress be made



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Analogy, analogy, analogy. The problem with using an analogy, sometimes instead of pointing out the resemblance (which is the desired effect), the discrepancies are further accentuated (which is the supposedly avoided end). Let’s play your game then.

Family A: American parent and American child. Child A is not attending college. Reason: He can but he doesn’t want to. Parent A is guilty of negligence and reneging from parental duty. Child A is a victim of his parent’s neglect and his own choice (he can study if he wants to).

Family B: Illegal alien parent and Illegal alien child. Child B is not attending college. Reason: He wants to but he can’t. Parent B is guilty of illegal entry or visa overstay, but dutiful in parental obligations. Child B is also a victim of his parent’s decision to come and stay in America illegally (he chooses to study but he can’t).

Now here’s the major issue. There’s that good ol’, good ol’ factor that kicks in. And that’s the federal matter called I-M-M-I-G-R-A-T-I-O-N.

Both Children A and B are the “innocent” victims of their “guilty” parents. But Child A has a way out, because “to be born poor is a matter of fate – to grow up poor is a matter of choice.” Child B has none, because “to be here illegally is a matter of fate – to grow up undocumented is a trap.”

Family A has no any problem with IMMIGRATION. Family B has a major, major problem under it. Family A has all the opportunities that America has to offer. Family B is facing a blank wall.

Both Family A and Family B are guaranteed “due process” and “equal protection of the laws” for being “persons” “within its jurisdiction” by the Fourteenth Amendment of the US Constitution, the fundamental and supreme law of the United States.

That’s why the US Legislature is trying, continually attempting to address (not necessarily solve) this problem through a certain piece of legislation which in this case is called DREAM Act. The fact that it’s not winning against continuous filibustering is another matter. The fact remains that the initiative is there, and it’s coming back again and again, because of the above-mentioned constitutional guarantees.

Now let me go back to my previous statements, that until now, I’m standing firmly for, that: No legislation is necessary for those (Parent A and Child A) who have all the chances in the world but choose to bungle them (Family A). and that … no legislation is necessary to impose what choices in life an individual (either Parent A or Child A) needs to follow, otherwise, it's dictatorship (still, we are in a DEMOCRATIC dispensation where the government has no, if little, authority over internal matters within the basic unit of its society – the family, especially on the choices they make, one of which is children’s education, which is readily available for them and all avenues are there open for their taking).

In our previous discussions and now, I can only emphasize as much, that DREAM does not provide for any form of FREE in-state or federally-funded tuition for its prospective beneficiaries. So your fixated claim that American children will be disadvantaged by it remains, then and now, to be so – BASELESS.

Let’s come back to your premise “... that Charity and forgiveness should start at home ! (legal residents).” Well, DREAM doesn’t aim to forgive Parent B, it just offers to give a fighting chance to the Child B victim, by setting stiff qualifiers, otherwise if they bungled the chance, they’ll be out of here for good, “at no government expense,” DREAM is. Whereas, Parent A needs no legislative forgiveness, opportunities abound for Child A, it’s just a matter of their choice and decision, either to free themselves out of the trap or stay, all avenues are open.

Just because DREAM will give a chance to Child B, at no government expense, doesn’t necessarily mean that Child A’s benefits that are readily available will be denied.

So again, your “Charity and forgiveness start at home ! (legal residents)” blabber remains so also – BASELESS.

Ok then, let me revise my previous “shallow argument” statement. It should read instead, “penetratingly shallow argument.” Again, it’s a day and night analogy, my friend.

On the second issue about the D.C. kids. In fairness, davdah didn’t categorically mention the kids in their narrow racial class. But you did. Because it’s convenient, you made your argument to appear as if in their favor, but in the process, narrowly referencing to their “skin color” and their “racial distinction.” To me, it’s a given indication that you have a built-in prejudice on your mind and in your heart that they are indeed naturally, expectedly, and traditionally “disadvantaged.” At least, I know deep within my soul that I don’t have that prejudgment. You said: “There is no hypocrisy there on my part.” Oh, no, you need a little amount of soul-searching to do.

You further said: “SLUM IS SLUM many ethnics and whites live in slums and poverty. POVERTY is an equal opportunity employer.” There you go. That’s the idea why I mentioned the “hypocrisy in abundance” thing. (Presumed) underprivileged kids to be narrowly categorized based on one skin color? BASELESS! You just shifted gears now and after the fact. Good for you.

I would not give additional comments in response to your Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson statements. But my position is clear. I will just keep to myself whether I agree or disagree with whatever they do or fight for. But I respect their inalienable rights to do it. Much more so because these people are REVERENDS. Being so, I would want to maintain my personal policy to separate my temporal from my spiritual opinions within my own being.

Oh, boy, you missed it. Eyes on the ball. Focus, focus, babe!






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