Do not forget the fact that as per the recent polls 30% of Hillary supporters (including myself) would not support Obama if he becomes party's nominee, instead they will vote for Republican candidate. Almost all polls are saying the same. I said this a way before all these polls came out that I will vote for John Mccain if Obama wins party's nomination but now other democrats are saying the same.
Just curious,
If Hillary gets the nomination, and puts obama on the ticket as her vp (as she has hinted to)
Oj Jasmin, Jasmin... I agree with your assessment of the pressure put on Hillary at this moment by certain high profile democratic figures such as Howard Dean, Bill Richardson, Pelosi, Casey, and a growing pressure in the media hinting at HRC to fold her cards. It's paternalistic, patronizing, condenscending, and sexist. I know that as much as Hillary is a real fighter, she will not listen and crumble under pressure. This is what I've admired in her from the start, and if she crumbles, then I'd support Obama with all my heart. But I don't believe she will fold. I think she should be going forward full steam, and not mind what others are saying. This is America afterall, the land of the fittest and the strongest. Those who pressure Hillary are whimps. And in all seriousness, if I were American right now, I'd reregister to Republican party if this continues.
No, just joking. But I wouldn't want to belong in a party that behaves like a horde of testosteron-less whimps.
"Fascism should rather be called corporatism, as it is the merging of government and corporate power." --Benito Mussolini
And there is even some cajoling and bribing, and enticing going on too. Some high powered wigs in the Dem party are offering Clinton Governor of New York after Paterson, who's supposed to resign or be removed.
Bill Clinton said no to that.
"Fascism should rather be called corporatism, as it is the merging of government and corporate power." --Benito Mussolini
I have some insider information on that. Hillary hesitated for a moment, but Bill categorically said no, immediately. And he's right. We're still before Penn primary. Are you getting it? Before the big state of Pennsylvania, they want her to quit. If the keep on doing this, there will be a big backlash amongst us, HRC supporters. And I wouldn't blame you if you voted for McCain, although you'd regret it later in your life. But spite is spite, right? Anyway, you are absolutely correct that the vote numbers are marginal. It's not a landslide that would demand the opponnent to quit. The electoral numbers favor Hillary. And if Florida and Michigan were counted, Hillary catches up with Barack (at this point in time), and gets one pledged delegate more. See the MDD (http://mydd.com/- look at the right column).
It is all a propaganda, and it's unfair to Hillary. And it's very sad. I look at this nation and I don't see the class American people claim to possess.
"Fascism should rather be called corporatism, as it is the merging of government and corporate power." --Benito Mussolini
Superdelegates are not going to venture out and make any moves one way or another because they know if the opposite candidate wins, one they didn't endorse, they know they are going to lose their jobs later on. You know what I want to see? Howard Dean's head on a silver platter when Hillary wins. His head is gonna roll like a bowling ball. He's so sure of himself, and so sure of Obama's win, he risked his seat as the DNC chair. Well, we'll see Howard.
"Fascism should rather be called corporatism, as it is the merging of government and corporate power." --Benito Mussolini
Not sure where to put this but as it is president related, thought I would post this here. I received this email and it is quite interesting if all true...
Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846. John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860. John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights. Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday. Both Presidents were shot in the head
Now it gets really weird.
Lincoln 's secretary was named Kennedy. Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln .
Both were assassinated by Southerners. Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln , was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln , was born in 1839. Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their three names. Both names are composed of fifteen letters.
Now hang on to your seat.
Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.' Kennedy was shot in a car called ' Lincoln ' made by 'Ford.'
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse. Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
And here's the kicker...
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe , Maryland A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God Bless America - God Bless Immigrants - God Bless Poor Misguided Souls Too Mr S.U.
Sen. Barack Obama is talking about the elephant in the room - Republican rival John McCain - and all but ignoring the Democrat who stands between him and his party's presidential nomination.
Even though Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton was campaigning miles down the Northeast Extension in Philadelphia, Obama criticized the likely Republican nominee's policies on the U.S. troop presence in Iraq, trade and tax cuts. In his town-hall session Tuesday, and in other campaign appearances in recent days, Obama has sought to frame the race as a general election matchup between him and McCain.
Of course, there's the little matter of a Pennsylvania primary on April 22, and Clinton's double-digit lead in recent state polls.
The extended presidential nomination contest has resulted in an odd political triangle, with each candidate taking alternate turns criticizing one or both of their competitors.
"He's on a biography tour right now," Obama said of McCain. "Most of us know his biography, and it's worthy of our admiration. My argument with John McCain is not with his biography, it's with his policies."
Obama argued that McCain would merely be another four years of President Bush on economic and military policies. McCain has criticized Obama as being inexperienced on national security, and the Illinois senator answered back.
"Meanwhile Senator McCain has been saying I don't understand national security, but he's the one who wants to keep tens of thousands of United States troops in Iraq for as long as 100 years," Obama said.
The McCain and Obama camps have been feuding for days over remarks McCain recently made when he said the U.S. could end up having a long-term military presence in Iraq, similar to the more than 50-year presence of U.S. soldiers in Germany and South Korea.
"One hundred years in a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 may make sense to George Bush and John McCain but it is the wrong thing to do. It is not right for our national security. It is not right for our economy," Obama said to applause at a town hall.
McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said that given the long history of peacetime U.S. bases overseas, Obama's remarks show his "complete lack of preparedness to be commander in chief."
"His attempt to paint McCain's position as something else is nothing but the disingenuous, old-style politics that he claims to reject," Bounds said.
Though the primary contest has heightened tensions among Democrats fearful it will hurt their chances of winning the general election in November, Obama told the crowd not to worry.
"I don't buy this whole thing that people are super-divided," he said in response to a question. "We are going to come together and focus on the fact that John McCain wants to continue the war in Iraq, I want to end it, John McCain wants to continue George Bush's economic policies."
Later in the day, he traveled to Scranton, where he brought another town hall crowd to its feet in asserting he had the best judgment to guide foreign policy, referencing Clinton's television ad about an emergency early morning phone call.
"When you ask yourself who you want answering that 3 o'clock phone call ... ask yourself: Of the three remaining candidates, who has the judgment to understand what will be a bad decision? Who has the judgment to ask the tough questions? Who's going to keep America on the right track? That's the person you want on that phone call at three in the morning," he said, to rousing applause.
In an interview with Pittsburgh radio station KDKA-AM, Obama was questioned about Clinton's claims that she faced sniper fire on a visit to Bosnia as first lady. She later said she made a mistake.
"I think we all get tired and we all sometimes make mistakes on the campaign trail. I think that the larger issue has been, you know, Senator Clinton's suggestion that she has this vast foreign policy experience that somehow makes her more qualified to be commander in chief than me," he said. "I think that I've had better judgment over the last five years and better equipped to actually deal with the problems that we're actually going to face in the years to come."
For all his complaints about McCain, Obama also talked tough on international trade issues - a sensitive subject in a state with plenty of blue-collar Democratic votes to be won.
An Iraq war veteran at the town hall asked the senator's opinion of a recent decision by the Pentagon to award a a $35 billion Air Force tanker contract to a consortium led by Airbus, located in Europe, over a bid led by U.S.-based Boeing.
Obama said he had concerns about the deal but an investigation was warranted to find out more.
"I don't mind the Pentagon procuring from other countries but when you've got such an enormous contract for such a vital piece of our U.S. military arsenal, it strikes me that we should have identified a U.S. company that could do it," he said, though he added that he might conclude the decision was justified if it turns out Airbus' bid was 10-15 percent better than Boeing's.
McCain has faced questions about the contract because some of his current advisers lobbied last year for the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co., the parent company of plane maker Airbus. EADS and its U.S. partner Northrop Grumman Corp. beat Boeing Co. for the lucrative aerial refueling contract.
McCain has said his inquiries into the contract were designed to ensure evenhanded bidding and denied they were motivated by lobbyists who are close advisers to his presidential campaign.
IMO, It is disturbing that our country would cut out the opportunity to give a contract to Boeing that could supply jobs for americans and lprs. There is no justification in this time of recession that they would give these jobs to overseas to save a couple of bucks. UNACCEPTABLE! and unacceptable to justify the actions! Airbus is inferior product to boeing. Airbus marketing practices have been detrimental to long standing quality airline companies. Take the case of companies like JET BLUE and Delta airlines. Jet blue uses Airbus planes, and Airbus deal states they dont pay anything to them for 5 years. This is why Jet blue can offer such cheap rates where a company like delta cannot, but they have to try to compete or suffer going out of business. The Pilots had to take 40% paycuts and lose their pensions while other airline employees had to suffer pay cuts. This is why this country is suffering becuase the government is not even protecting our interests. Airbus has been like Walmart... A monster IMO
Lol @ Sprint. The last one is good, but whether it's true or not, remains silent.
What's maybe more spooky? Is that Obama's favorite president is... Lincoln. He said that in an interview with Ann Curry recently.
Republicans will HATE Obama much more than they did Hillary. Carl Rove in the recent GQ interview calls Obama "arrogant".
Doesn't bode well. I've always said Republican partisans are evil to the core. Rove, Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld- all evil doers with blood on their hands. Evil Incarnate.
"Fascism should rather be called corporatism, as it is the merging of government and corporate power." --Benito Mussolini
It's interesting that you brought up that point - it gave me the other side of the issue. This is an article that I read in Newsmax:
"Your United States Senators and Representative need to hear from you! Yesterday, 22 distinguished retired Air Force generals sent the following letter to Secretary of Defense Robert Gates expressing their disdain at the vitriolic attacks being levied by Boeing and its supporters against the Air Force's decision to award the contract to build the nation's next generation of air refueling tankers to Northrop Grumman.
March 31, 2008
The Honorable Robert M. Gates Secretary of Defense 1000 Defense Pentagon Washington, DC 20301-1000
Dear Secretary Gates:
U.S. Air Force refueling aircraft are critical to joint U.S. power projection capabilities. The backbone of the current tanker fleet — the KC-135s — average 47 years of age, and must be replaced as expeditiously as possible.
We, the undersigned, have devoted years of service and sacrifice to this great nation and the United States Air Force. Accordingly, we are very troubled by the vitriolic attack on the Air Force by those who disagree with the outcome of the KC-45 Tanker competition.
From an objective perspective, the Air Force is prevented from using U.S. industrial base issues, U.S. employment issues and U.S. component content issues in making decisions about weapons systems. By law and by directive, they must consider which system gives best value for our Warfighters. But despite those facts, the Air Force is being attacked by Boeing and their special interests clients by:
Impugning the integrity of OUR Air Force in the conduct of the KC-45 source selection Claiming OUR Air Force abandoned the interests of America and the American people during the selection process Questioning the patriotism of the men and women of OUR Air Force Claiming there is a problem with manufacturing by not-to-be-trusted foreign nationals, when all military modifications made to the aircraft will be done by Northrop Grumman under the strict standards of the Air Force — a fact Boeing supporters fully understand We are unwavering in our support of the military and civilian members of the Air Force team, and know that they embody a commitment to integrity first, service before self, and excellence in all they do. The Air Force team rightly focused on delivering the most capability to the Warfighter — and their integrity, honor, and truthfulness should not be denigrated without factual information to the contrary, by those serving other interests.
Delays in the tanker program will only serve to put the lives of crews flying these aging systems in greater jeopardy. We fully support the Air Force in its desire to provide the best and most capable tanker to our Warfighters, and urge you to continue to stand up and help defend them from scurrilous and politically motivated attacks that have no basis in the source selection criteria for our next tanker.
Michael E. Ryan Gen, USAF (Ret)
Ronald W. Yates Gen, USAF (Ret)
Thomas McInerney Lt Gen, USAF (Ret)
Walter Kross Gen, USAF (Ret)
Leroy Barnidge, Jr. Maj Gen, USAF (Ret)
Silas R. Johnson, Jr. Maj Gen, USAF (Ret)
David A. Nagy Brig Gen, USAF (Ret) Charles A. Horner Gen, USAF (Ret)
Richard E. Hawley Gen, USAF (Ret)
John W. Hawley Maj Gen, USAF (Ret)
Robert C. Hinson Lt Gen, USAF (Ret)
Dr. George Peach Taylor, Jr. Lt Gen, USAF (Ret)
John D. Becker Maj Gen, USAF (Ret)
Timothy J. McMahon Maj Gen, USAF (Ret)
William J. Jabour Brig Gen, USAF (Ret) Gregory S. Martin Gen, USAF (Ret)
Robert F. Raggio Lt Gen, USAF (Ret)
Charles H. Coolidge, Jr. Lt Gen, USAF (Ret)
Everett H. Pratt, Jr. Lt Gen, USAF (Ret)
William Welser, III Lt. Gen, USAF (Ret)
John W. Brooks Maj Gen, USAF (Ret)
Timothy A. Peppe Maj Gen, USAF (Ret)
Your U.S. Senators and Representative in Congress need to hear from you!
It's time to join these retired American military leaders in demanding that Boeing stop its efforts to reverse the Air Force decision. Our men and women in uniform deserve no less of us!
Click here to send an urgent email to your two U.S. Senators and Representative, demanding that they call on Boeing to stop the attacks on our Air Force, and allow the procurement process to proceed unencumbered by defamatory, political attacks."
What's your opinion?
Do all the good you can, in all the ways you can, as long as ever you can.
Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse. Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
And here's the kicker...
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe , Maryland A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.
Hi Sprint,
I liked it. Thanks for sharing!
Do all the good you can, in all the ways you can, as long as ever you can.
I was wondering why there are already pledged superdelegates either for both Hillary and Barack. I was thinking before that they will be the tie-breakers just in case that the general populace's vote will not give a definitive edge for either candidates.
Do all the good you can, in all the ways you can, as long as ever you can.
Originally posted by iperson: Now, can you, yes you, tell me why you hate Hillary Clinton?
I am calling all the b.itches to tell me why. I want to know concrete good reasons. Bashing allowed, but unreasonable claims like just because are not allowed. Start now.
Hi Iperson,
I was backtracking and saw this - LOL! I guess if you didn't use the word b___s, you would have answers. Anyways, seeing that you're a supporter of Hillary and I know that you would appreciate a feedback, I asked my hubby why he won't vote for Hillary. His answer was he doesn't believe she can lead the military better than McCain would. (Of course, I was expecting that, he was as USMC and McCain was a war hero.) So that's a tidbit of info for you.
Do all the good you can, in all the ways you can, as long as ever you can.
Your U.S. Senators and Representative in Congress need to hear from you!
It's time to join these retired American military leaders in demanding that Boeing stop its efforts to reverse the Air Force decision. Our men and women in uniform deserve no less of us!
It is time to give these retirees a swift kick in the buttt Click here to send an urgent email to your two U.S. Senators and Representative, demanding that they call on Boeing to stop the attacks on our Air Force, and allow the procurement process to proceed unencumbered by defamatory, political attacks."
What's your opinion?
Thanks for that article mrs. B,.
Well Mrs B
I would be more apt to write my congressman to say step up the pressure and help boeing to secure that contract. Keep these jobs in the usa that are well needed by securing that contract and keep military security issues here and not just supervising a foreign corporation.
This is shameless:[quotes form above article: "From an objective perspective, the Air Force is prevented from using U.S. industrial base issues, U.S. employment issues and U.S. component content issues in making decisions about weapons systems. By law and by directive, they must consider which system gives best value for our Warfighters. But despite those facts, the Air Force is being attacked by Boeing and their special interests clients by Impugning the integrity of OUR Air Force in the conduct of the KC-45 source selection :
Its all about the benjamins it seems. very sad to not take in other factors. americans got the shaft
Claiming OUR Air Force abandoned the interests of America and the American people during the selection process
IMO, I agree also that they abandoned the interest of americans
Questioning the patriotism of the men and women of OUR Air Force
This is supposed to make america feel guilty, but it is true that the air force patriotism is in question.
Claiming there is a problem with manufacturing by not-to-be-trusted foreign nationals, when all military modifications made to the aircraft will be done by Northrop Grumman under the strict standards of the Air Force — a fact Boeing supporters fully understand
History serves us well, this has time and time again proven to be true. Lets keep it homegrown.
Retired generals have cushy military pension and who knows what they will be receiving for this effort. they need swift kick in head to get their thinking and heart in the right place.... AMERICA"S INTEREST!
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There is no justification in this time of recession that they would give these jobs to overseas to save a couple of bucks. UNACCEPTABLE! and unacceptable to justify the actions! Airbus is inferior product to boeing. Airbus marketing practices have been detrimental to long standing quality airline companies. Take the case of companies like JET BLUE and Delta airlines. Jet blue uses Airbus planes, and Airbus deal states they dont pay anything to them for 5 years. This is why Jet blue can offer such cheap rates where a company like delta cannot, but they have to try to compete or suffer going out of business. The Pilots had to take 40% paycuts and lose their pensions while other airline employees had to suffer pay cuts. This is why this country is suffering becuase the government is not even protecting our interests. Airbus has been like Walmart... A monster IMO
Claiming OUR Air Force abandoned the interests of America and the American people during the selection process 
Claiming there is a problem with manufacturing by not-to-be-trusted foreign nationals, when all military modifications made to the aircraft will be done by Northrop Grumman under the strict standards of the Air Force — a fact Boeing supporters fully understand