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You are right about it, it is impossible to educate people who lack the capacity to learn.

But if one had such capacity the first question would be: why increase your working hours when you can increase $$$ earned per hour?

It would take further effort and much persistence on part of an individual to find out how.

But it's all out there !
It's Free Economy and no benefit on Earth can be greater than that.

Can't take advantage of it?

Too bad. Then better look for a third job.


Have all the good s.ex you can, in all the ways you can, for as long as ever you can !

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I do not have time to read through all the messages that have passed back and forth since I went to work. I am back! May just chime in? I just learned that McCain chose Gov. Palin as his running mate. I am rather perplex about all of this. Who is she? I learned that she was major of some hamlet in Alaska prior to becoming Gov. of the Great State of Alaska, which is the least populated state in the nation. Is her experience more in ruling reindeer?


"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
 
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Nothing is impossible under the Solstice


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The people who don't know what to do need to be told to educate themselves and be shown how to think for themselves


how would you educate people who you know have 2 jobs and its not enough??? tell them to get a 3rd job.. working 24 hours a day.

Is this McCain solution to increase salary rate.
He better have this on his speech on the convention!



No, no. Simply this. You need to work smarter. If you can't make it on the two jobs then its time to find a different job all together. Who says you have to settle for minimum wage? You are the one who decides what you settle for. McCaine can't make that decision for you. And neither can Obama. Although he implied it, he can't.


You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
 
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I do not have time to read through all the messages that have passed back and forth since I went to work. I am back! May just chime in? I just learned that McCain chose Gov. Palin as his running mate. I am rather perplex about all of this. Who is she? I learned that she was major of some hamlet in Alaska prior to becoming Gov. of the Great State of Alaska, which is the least populated state in the nation. Is her experience more in ruling reindeer?




Look a little closer. The reasoning behind it was brilliant. What does a VP actually do?


You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
 
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Well, I guess it all depends what the president has the VP do. If she is only going to attend funerals, her experience is most likely enough. However, if, God forbid, something is to happen to McCain, she is going to have to lead the country. McCain has been harping on Obama has no experience and now this. Davdah, the closer I look, the blurrier my vision!


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On one hand it may seem like he is trying to pick a Hillary clone. She will come out and be shown to be her own women. Give it a week or so. The tide will turn ever so sharply against Obama. The idea was to promote inclusion. And it helps that she is gorgeous! Something for women to look up to. At least the ones with half a brain.


You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
 
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am personally disappointed in mccain's choose for his running mate. he chose this lady to pander women...mostly hillary supporters. but she is not hillary & most women envy young and attractive women in all walks of life. mccain didn't need to pick her because he was doing great with even in poll with obama. he has risked his chances. romney was best pick.

but sarah palin is better than obama and biden at any day. she has executive experience that obama and biden never have. her job approval rating is 80% while obama and biden's job rating in congress is 9%. she is more energetic than both obama and bidden together. she has 5 kids while obama and biden are dried prune in that area. and she can win ms congeality contest at any time against obama and bidden..she is a former ms alaska.


While I am not trying to change your opinion, Jasim, I simply think it is beyond repair. Having CEO experience has nothing to do with politics. What could a CEO do, devide the country into departments like HR,customer relations and marketing. One cannot compare private enterprise with holding a position in Government. All your comparisons, are just soooooooooo off the wall! And since you made reference to her being so attractive, perhaps McCain was thinking with his little head!


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Hey everybody, thanks for sharing all those links. Smile (Thanks too Olala for the complete speeches, I missed those.)

Anyways, for those of us who wonder who Sarah Palin is: Smile


McCain's veep choice is historic and hardly known

By STEVE QUINN and CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writers
1 hour, 9 minutes ago

In two short years, Sarah Palin moved from small-town mayor with a taste for mooseburgers to the governor's office and now — making history — to John McCain's side as the first female running mate on a Republican presidential ticket.

She has more experience catching fish as a former commercial fisherwoman than dealing with foreign policy or national affairs.

Talk about a rocketing ascent.

In turning to her, McCain picked an independent figure in his own mold, one who has taken on Alaska's powerful oil industry and, at age 44, is three years younger than Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama and a generation younger than McCain, 71.

Palin's selection was a jaw-dropper, as McCain passed over many other better known prospects, some of whom had been the subject of intense speculation for weeks or months. She was on the radar but as a distinct long shot.

She brings a strong anti-abortion stance to the ticket and opposes *** marriage — constitutionally banned in Alaska before her time — but exercised a veto that essentially granted benefits to *** state employees and their partners.

Palin lives in Wasilla, a town of 6,500 about 30 miles north of Anchorage, with her husband, Todd, a blue-collar North Slope oil worker who competes in the Iron Dog, a 1,900-mile snowmobile race. He is part Yup'ik Eskimo.

Typically seen walking the Capitol halls in black or red power suits while reading text messages on Blackberry screens in each hand, Palin made a recent appearance in fashion magazine Vogue.

"At first they had me in a bunch of furs," she said of the photo shoot. "Yeah, I have furs on my wall, but I don't wear furs. I had to show them my bunny boots and my North Face clothing."

Palin's clean-hands reputation has come into question with an investigation recently launched by a legislative panel into whether she dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper. Trooper Mike Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister.

The governor denied orchestrating the dozens of telephone calls made by her husband and members of her administration to Wooten's bosses. She says she welcomes the investigation: "Hold me accountable."

Palin, who led the Fellowship of Christian Athletes chapter at her high school, could help McCain's standing with social conservatives who have been skeptical of him.

"It's an absolutely brilliant choice," said Mathew Staver, dean of Liberty University School of Law and founder of the legal group Liberty Counsel, who has sought to coalesce evangelicals around McCain. "This will absolutely energize McCain's campaign and energize conservatives."

Palin is "a woman of faith who has a strong position on life, a consistent opinion on judges," Staver said. "She's the complete package."

But Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York said McCain was taking a "roll of the dice" and declared that Palin's "lack of experience makes the thought of her assuming the presidency troubling."

Four months into her most recent pregnancy, Palin learned that the child would have Down syndrome, and she said she never had any doubts about whether she would have the baby.

"We understand that every innocent life has wonderful potential," Palin told AP earlier this year in describing what she and her husband had confronted.

Alaska's first female governor arrived at the Capitol in 2006 on an ethics reform platform after defeating two former governors in the primary and general elections.

In the primary, Palin defeated incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski, who also had 22 years of experience in the U.S. Senate.

Her task didn't seem any easier in the general election, but she handily beat Tony Knowles, a popular Democrat who had served two earlier terms as governor.

During her first year in office, Palin moved away from the powerful old guard of the state Republican Party and has refused to kowtow to the powerful oil industry, instead presiding over a tax increase on oil company profits that now has the state's treasury swelling.

Palin also asked Alaska's congressional delegation to be more selective in seeking earmarks after what came to be known as the "Bridge to Nowhere" turned into a national embarrassment and a symbol of piggish pork-barrel spending — thanks to McCain's relentless criticism of the now-abandoned project.

Before becoming governor, her political experience consisted of terms as Wasilla's mayor and councilwoman and a stint as head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.

"Sarah Palin for her entire political career has been underestimated," said Paulette Simpson of the Alaska Federation of Republican Women. "She's tough, she's tenacious. I believe that she does have what it takes to get out there. Again, her ability to connect with voters and make a case is very, very, very strong."

Palin's confrontations with the state GOP began when Murkowski named her chairwoman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission. There, Palin exposed current Alaska Republican Party Chairman Randy Ruedrich, who was also on the commission, for ethical violations.

In 2005, Palin co-filed an ethics complaint against Murkowski's longtime aide and then attorney general, Gregg Renkes, for having a financial interest in a company that stood to gain from an international trade deal he was helping craft.

The Palins have five children: Track, 19; Bristol 17; Willow 14; Piper, 7, and Trig, who was born in April.

Track enlisted in the Army in 2007 on the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and has been assigned to Fort Wainwright in Fairbanks.

Palin was born Feb. 11, 1964, in Idaho, but her parents moved to Alaska shortly after her birth to teach. She received a bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987.

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Calvin Woodward reported from Washington.

Source

Here's what they say about her:

Analysis: Palin's age, inexperience rival Obama's

By RON FOURNIER, Associated Press Writer
3 minutes ago

John McCain's risky choice of Gov. Sarah Palin gives him a running mate who doubles down on his maverick image, may appeal to "hockey moms" and other women, and counters Barack Obama's aura of new-generation change. But he may have undercut his best attack on the Democrat.

Full article


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It takes a complete fool , totally ignorant of the ways of Nature, to be d.umbfounded by events that constantly take place around us.


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If anybody was curious as to what some of Hillary's supporters reactions were...

Ha! Say the Online Hillary Supporters


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The only relevant question under this thread and in this forum, anyway, is what her stand on immigration is?

Is she supportive of McCains' views?
If not, then how and in what way her opinion differs?

I hope they both do the right thing, though: seal off the borders and make a reform for speedy nuclear family unification (I mean deport the alien first then his/her USC relatives) !!!


Have all the good s.ex you can, in all the ways you can, for as long as ever you can !

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but sarah palin is better than obama and biden at any day. she has executive experience that obama and biden never have. her job approval rating is 80% while obama and biden's job rating in congress is 9%. she is more energetic than both obama and bidden together. she has 5 kids while obama and biden are dried prune in that area. and she can win ms congeality contest at any time against obama and bidden..she is a former ms alaska.


lol Who is SHE???????? Ohhh yeah Governor
of the North Pole.

Parish Hilton soon in Congress!
 
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am personally disappointed in mccain's choose for his running mate. he chose this lady to pander women...mostly hillary supporters. but she is not hillary & most women envy young and attractive women in all walks of life. mccain didn't need to pick her because he was doing great with even in poll with obama. he has risked his chances. romney was best pick.


I wonder why????? maybe Romney don't agree with McSame????
 
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I didnt think McCain could top his Daddy Yankee moment with high school girls, but I was wrong.

Sarah Palin, soccer mom and journalism degree. Wow.. This is best he could do???? Little head thinking for John again. And what is all this talk about her being a hottie and good looking Confused These are pics that I havent seen yet. Now maybe to a 70 year old man, I can see all the hoopla. It wss reported that womanizer mcsame said the reasonn he chose her was personal. This election just went even more screwy than it already was.

Only thing she has going for her is that she is the only one of the 4 that has had more than zero experience at running a state. Even if it is only two years

Time to country shop again. Big Grin
 
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Women's thoughts on her:

Palin "has a solid resume. She's not an old white dude, which makes McCain look less stodgy. Biden will have a harder time debating against her without coming across as a bully (especially since he's something of a loose cannon prone to idiotic slips of the tongue, despite being an excellent debater). She could potentially woo white suburban politically moderate female voters. She's likable and has a very all-American story. She has a son in the military. The media is already swooning over her.


Again, a brilliant move by our next commander in chief.


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YOu are right on that one Davdah

biden will have to be very careful as he is a condescending wise guy and probably will come off disrespectful to her at some point.

However, she too is a bit hard hitting.

this should be interesting
 
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Yes, I can't wait to see them go at it. Biden will need some lessons in diplomacy if he is going to prevent the loss of most of the Hillary supporters.


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Dav

what did you think of Tom ridge being Mccain's VP choice. Ridge is excellent at bringing systems up to date technically. He brought PA out of the dark ages in that respect
 
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