I received a special invitation because I am a volunteer.
Joe Louis Arena sits thousands of people: Seating Capacity: 20,066 (including suites); 20,338 for end-stage concerts and 21,152 for center-stage concerts. It is the home of Detroit Red Wings.
I am ecstatic! Will take lots of pictures and videos and will post them on my youtube account, and here too.
Where are you at Kollerkrot? I agree with you, I too think Jasmin is a traitor. She's like Joe Lieberman. What's more, I think those websites she pointed to are quite possibly set up by repugs to sow the seeds of division among dems and such foolish dolls like her fall for it.
I wonder what state she is, and whether her vote will change anything (probably not).
Aroha, I refer to your postings here on this board, not to your nationality. You can dig at me and behave like a repug, that's why you don't fit into the democratic party. Look, I am a nice person in real life, but I choose to be nasty to republicans because that's what they deserve. There's a whole lot more at stake in these elections. This is about be or not to be for this nation. It's about the future not only of this country but the whole planet. It's about future generations, and I will not stand for what they represent. They deserve much harsher treatment than what they are getting from me. Somehow whatever they do and say is regarded Ok because nothing more is expected from them. But in order to fight them, you need to lower yourself to their level and yes do fight the dirty fight. It's the only way to communicate with them. I speak their language. It is not my language. If we were to speak my language on this forum with these people, they wouldn't be able to converse because their minds are not there.
"To review the main points of this article, Democratic leaders and newspapers in New York, from the secession crisis to the draft riots, constantly harped upon the note that if the slaves were freed, they would flock north and take away the jobs of Irish laborers. The election campaigns of 1860, 1861, and 1862 and Lincoln's emancipation program were the occasions for their heaviest barrages of propaganda on this score. Republicans and abolitionists were slow to answer their opponents' predictions. When they finally did reply, they argued that elimination of slavery would forestall any danger of an inundation of blacks"
Quote: The result of this labor strife was that when resistance to the draft started in New York on July 13, 1863, longshoremen formed the van of the mobs.(121) Deputations recruiting
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rioters thoroughly canvassed the waterfront, so that by the second day of the upheaval the loading and unloading of ships in the harbor had stopped, except at a wharf here and there which happened to be under the guns of an armed vessel.(122) No colored dockhands were to be found on any pier.(123) Negroes who ventured on the streets near the waterfront or near saloons frequented by longshoremen were horribly tortured and beaten to death by bands of longshoremen and their bodies cast into the East River and Hudson River.(124) One reporter described conditions about the piers thus:
So determined and bitter is the feeling of the 'longshoremen against negroes that not one of the latter dares show himself upon the docks or piers even when a regular employee of the place. The white workmen have resolved, by concerted action, to keep colored men from this branch of labor, and have evinced, by their conduct toward their former comrades in work, a spirit as murderous and brutal as it is illiberal and selfish. It is a prevalent rumor, to which the authorities give full credence, and which the 'longshoremen seem proud of, that scores of these unfortunates have been thrown into the river and drowned, for no other reason than that they were obnoxious to the sensitive-minded individuals of a lighter color. (125)
Another observer likewise noted that longshoremen made
no attempt to conceal their determination to keep negroes ... from that sort of labor. They insist upon it that the colored people must and shall be driven to other departments of industry, and that the work upon the docks, the stevedoring, and the various job-work therewith connected, shall be attended to solely and absolutely by members of the 'Longshoremen's Association, and such white laborers as they see fit to permit upon the premises.(126)
The mobs along the waterfront which attacked other Negroes besides dock workers consisted, in all likelihood, of END QUOTE
But the New York draft disturbances remain the bloodiest race riots of American history. Police figures on deaths among the white rioters ranged from 1,200 to 1,500, and it is impossible to know how many bodies of Negro victims of the lynch mobs were borne away by the waters on either side of Manhattan Island.(3) Significantly, the Negro population of the metropolis dropped 20% between 1860 and 1865, declining from 12,472 to 9,945
Even though he leaned republican in his views, he was a just and thorough journalist, for which I respect him. This is a huge shock.
To Aroha - this is what Tim Russert said:
"This instrument [tv] can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires and lights in a box. There is a great and perhaps decisive battle to be fought against ignorance, intolerance and indifference. This weapon of television could be useful.
Stonewall Jackson, who knew something about the use of weapons, is reported to have said, "When war comes, you must draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." The trouble with television is that it is rusting in the scabbard during a battle for survival."
Originally posted by ProudUSC: For anyone interested in receiving an invitation to an Obama rally near you, just go here and plug in your name and email address.
Alright, iPerson, let me put it to you another way.
You have assumed that there's no way I could be a Democrat, in spite of how little I've actually said about my political leanings. This assumption, therefore, can only be because my husband is a Republican, and if that is what you're basing it on, then you are 100% incorrect.
I don't know what your marriage is like, but I have no need to parrot my husband nor believe in everything he does. We are different people, we have different minds, and while we agree on lots of things, there are plenty of areas we disagree. Politics is one of those areas.
My husband is conservative. I'm not. I've supported liberal policy in NZ that he hasn't agreed with, policy that the USA could only dream of passing at a federal level. The party I support here is our version of the Democrats. I don't see the need or the wisdom in changing my opinions just because the man I married doesn't agree with them, just like I wouldn't expect him to change his for me.
We accept our differences, we embrace them as part of who we are. Yes, it occasionally makes for some heated debates but that's part of the fun of it.
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Originally posted by Aroha: Alright, iPerson, let me put it to you another way.
You have assumed that there's no way I could be a Democrat, in spite of how little I've actually said about my political leanings. This assumption, therefore, can only be because my husband is a Republican, and if that is what you're basing it on, then you are 100% incorrect.
I don't know what your marriage is like, but I have no need to parrot my husband nor believe in everything he does. We are different people, we have different minds, and while we agree on lots of things, there are plenty of areas we disagree. Politics is one of those areas.
My husband is conservative. I'm not. I've supported liberal policy in NZ that he hasn't agreed with, policy that the USA could only dream of passing at a federal level. The party I support here is our version of the Democrats. I don't see the need or the wisdom in changing my opinions just because the man I married doesn't agree with them, just like I wouldn't expect him to change his for me.
We accept our differences, we embrace them as part of who we are. Yes, it occasionally makes for some heated debates but that's part of the fun of it.
Not exactly, ARoha. I do believe you can be a good Democrat. My previous response was defensive and knee-j e r k reaction. I apologize. Any good person can and on average is a Democrat.
Kollerkrot, wow, Fox News did what? Times are changing... I think you're right, their ratings should be abysmal. Ha! (that is an homage to Chris Matthews) Lol.
Anyway, I think I have my favorite pick for Obama's Vice. And ... - drums please-
it is senator Evan Bayh from Indiana. It is also my hunch that this is who Obama will choose.
Kollerkrot, wow, Fox News did what? Times are changing... I think you're right, their ratings should be abysmal. Ha! (that is an homage to Chris Matthews) Lol.
That Hannity guy better watch his mouth now. Fox has very bad ratings. They are loosing deals left and right and Barack wouldn't go interview because of the bashing. Must have been me inspiring the masses, I said on some lists when they first started the bashing: "Hit them where it hurts most - don't watch em!"
"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
Originally posted by davdah: Escape the barak collective. You will end up as a latte sipping drone.
Sipping Latte in a European style cafe is a very chique thing to do. Of course you have to bring flair along also - it want work with out flair. Do Republicans have flair, davdah?
"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
I am very glad to hear that Kollerkrot (Faux News ratings). This means that there is hope for this country and its people. Like Bubba says: Americans always get it right.
About Tim Russert. What's going to happen to Meet the Press? For many Americans this program was a large part of every Sunday morning. I looked forward to the "round table" every week. You know, his background is very similar to mine. He signifies the kind of upbringing that I've had back in Poland, the kind of people I grew up among. He was Catholic and a family man and a patriot, with an engrained work ethic, and an impassioned solidity and consistency. He reminds me of my neighbours. It's interesting to find that there is this type of profile of people on the other side of the planet too.
Originally posted by davdah: Escape the barak collective. You will end up as a latte sipping drone.
Sipping Latte in a European style cafe is a very chique thing to do. Of course you have to bring flair along also - it want work with out flair. Do Republicans have flair, davdah?
That's a Christmas morning wish Koller. A republican flair. Lmao.
Originally posted by davdah: Escape the barak collective. You will end up as a latte sipping drone.
Sipping Latte in a European style cafe is a very chique thing to do. Of course you have to bring flair along also - it want work with out flair. Do Republicans have flair, davdah?
More than can be imagined. You see, we don't need to hang out at some cafe trying to look intelligent or chique. When I see the mind numb robots at those places I have to laugh. If they only knew how transparent the faux persona was. Symbolism over substance fails every time.
You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
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Actually, in that respect, I'm a bad Republican. I love me some Starbucks.
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