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I think this is the crux of the matter Jasmin. It's not that Obama doesn't have a long record of public service (he does have a long one enough), but you inherently feel that because Obama is Black, he is not intelligent enough or capable enough to handle this job.
DOn't you Jasmin?


I see you are systematically and calculatively diverting the matter to spread racism whenever someone rejects Obama's candidacy. Almost each of Obama's supporters, like Senator from Missouri (Ms. Mcclaussi) and others, have said all along that racism and se-xism is very much still alive in this country. So you cannot rule that out. To some people race. s e x, character, personality, demeanor, height, color of hair, etc are important one way or another to chose a candicate aside from candidates' position on issues. They are entittled to their own choice and judgement in this democratic society. But as I've said from the beginning that Obama's race is not the reason for us to reject his candidacy; rather his lack of experience and his empty record are not enough for us to elect him for the top job of this land...nonetheless, his empty words of promising which he could have fulfilled being a senator if he really meant for it.

And we don't like to comment on Mccain's act/position/experience because we have said from the beginning that we are supporting him not on his experience and position on issues; rather just to prevent Obama to be in the oval office.


And who are we?
I hear crickets chirping.

Or is it multiple personality disorder.


the "personal" is political
 
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This is not a social club PUSC, let me remind you.
Get off this board to socialize, play with avatars, and talk nonsense. This is not the place for empty chatter.




It is what we say it is grint. You have no right to decide anything for anyone. Not even who is going to govern over you. So continue your race baiting. We know who calls blacks what. I had you removed from the Hillary caimpaign . Want to try for something else?


You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
 
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Davdah, you may as well be talking to a brick wall. How many times has iP told us not to talk immigration in an immigration thread on an immigration forum? She's about as brickish as they come Smile


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Really, its a pathetic state of this nation.

Feel free to leave.


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Hate crime
More defined
Character requirements.

Interesting reading. One would wonder if racial attacks constitute moral tirpitude or not. Maybe a call is warranted.


You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
 
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To tell you the truth, I don't watch ANY tv at all. I made a conscious choice four years ago and haven't since. All I watch now is MSNBC politics, and a couple shows at abc.com- all online. Sometimes I like to watch J. Leno, also available at nbc.com. That's it.
I really don't have time for it, and I see the effect the lack of the brainwashing is doing to my mental health.


Did that make anyone else snicker?

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Originally posted by iperson:
I cannot stand this brainless constant bla bla bla...


Anyone??


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I have the coolest wife ever. Big Grin


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Yes you do. Well, next to mine. Sorry, bias Wink

Didn't just snicker, More like fell out of my chair laughing, spilling coffee on the dog, sending him scampering out the door into traffic, causing a 20 car pile up!


You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
 
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Stop this bickering I am sick and tired of it....No one else is better than AMERICAN....yeah you got that right. And yeah we employ POLISH people to clean our toilets....Iperson you got that right. Without you all people no one would be cleaning our you know what I mean before I get beeped


I am not racist. I am not anti-immigrant. I am AGAINST CRIMINALS, FRAUDSTERS, WHO DISOBEY THE LAW, BREAK THE LAW AND PERPETRATE THE FRAUD.

You may not like what I have to say but that does not mean I am wrong.
 
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Originally posted by Jasmin:
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Originally posted by iperson:
I think this is the crux of the matter Jasmin. It's not that Obama doesn't have a long record of public service (he does have a long one enough), but you inherently feel that because Obama is Black, he is not intelligent enough or capable enough to handle this job.
DOn't you Jasmin?


I see you are systematically and calculatively diverting the matter to spread racism whenever someone rejects Obama's candidacy. Almost each of Obama's supporters, like Senator from Missouri (Ms. Mcclaussi) and others, have said all along that racism and se-xism is very much still alive in this country. So you cannot rule that out. To some people race. s e x, character, personality, demeanor, height, color of hair, etc are important one way or another to chose a candicate aside from candidates' position on issues. They are entittled to their own choice and judgement in this democratic society. But as I've said from the beginning that Obama's race is not the reason for us to reject his candidacy; rather his lack of experience and his empty record are not enough for us to elect him for the top job of this land...nonetheless, his empty words of promising which he could have fulfilled being a senator if he really meant for it.

And we don't like to comment on Mccain's act/position/experience because we have said from the beginning that we are supporting him not on his experience and position on issues; rather just to prevent Obama to be in the oval office.


Jasmin, I think this is the most ludicrous position someone can have. You call yourself a democrat. Please, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. TRAITOR!!!


"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
 
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ROFL!!!

Jasmin, since the Dems are treating you like carp, feel free to break ranks and join us here on the RIGHT. We'll take care of you. Smile

It amazes me how you lot treat anyone who has a different opinion other than your own. If liberals are supposed to be so humanitarian-focused, why can't you lot show an iota of humanity?


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Sorry, extremism, elitism, or other 'isms' only. 2argue


I don't want to be a part of this! Big Grin


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Actually JC, this thread has been an eye-opener for me. Given that I'm a relatively clean slate when it comes to US politics and haven't aligned with one side or the other, while still trying to keep myself educated on the issues, I've been fairly open.

Despite that, I did suspect that I'd be more of a Democrat given the way I vote in New Zealand. However, the behaviour of certain people have absolutely coloured my view. If they're any indication of what a Democrat is, then count me out.


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Actually JC, this thread has been an eye-opener for me. Given that I'm a relatively clean slate when it comes to US politics and haven't aligned with one side or the other, while still trying to keep myself educated on the issues, I've been fairly open.

Despite that, I did suspect that I'd be more of a Democrat given the way I vote in New Zealand. However, the behaviour of certain people have absolutely coloured my view. If they're any indication of what a Democrat is, then count me out.


You Democrat?? ROTFLMAO!


the "personal" is political
 
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Breaking news:

I have just been invited to Barack Obama rally in Detroit on MOnday!!!!

Please join Barack Obama for a Rally in Detroit, where he'll talk about his vision for bringing America together and creating the kind of change we can believe in.

Change That Works for You Rally
with Barack Obama

Joe Louis Arena
600 Civic Center Drive
Detroit, MI

Monday, June 16th
Doors Open: 6:30 p.m.
Program Begins: 8:30 p.m.


I CANNOT WAIT!!!

Has anyone attended BO rally?
I have a question- how early do you have to be there to get in??


the "personal" is political
 
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Despite that, I did suspect that I'd be more of a Democrat given the way I vote in New Zealand. However, the behaviour of certain people have absolutely coloured my view. If they're any indication of what a Democrat is, then count me out.


Aroha dear... Im also a Dem lol!
Just like Jasmin Im a Hilary supporter.
A solid Clinton LMAO!

But like jasmin just said...
some Hilary supporters will prolly go for McCain
and I heard and respected their reasons.

In my case, I will support Obama not because
he is the senator of our State.I believe he's got the brain and he can make changes.

I been very vocal before, the only republican
I will go for is Mike Huckabee.
 
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Thank God we have been saved Big Grin


I am not racist. I am not anti-immigrant. I am AGAINST CRIMINALS, FRAUDSTERS, WHO DISOBEY THE LAW, BREAK THE LAW AND PERPETRATE THE FRAUD.

You may not like what I have to say but that does not mean I am wrong.
 
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Originally posted by Aroha:
Actually JC, this thread has been an eye-opener for me. Given that I'm a relatively clean slate when it comes to US politics and haven't aligned with one side or the other, while still trying to keep myself educated on the issues, I've been fairly open.

Despite that, I did suspect that I'd be more of a Democrat given the way I vote in New Zealand. However, the behaviour of certain people have absolutely coloured my view. If they're any indication of what a Democrat is, then count me out.


You Democrat?? ROTFLMAO!


I rest my case.

Are you aware, iPerson, that my country is on to it's second woman leader? That we were the first country in the world to allow women the vote? That we were the first country in the world to elect a transexual politician?

Of course you weren't. That would involve taking your head out of your own arse for five minutes.

Get a grip, girly. Then get a clue.


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Originally posted by iperson:
Breaking news:

I have just been invited to Barack Obama rally in Detroit on MOnday!!!!

Please join Barack Obama for a Rally in Detroit, where he'll talk about his vision for bringing America together and creating the kind of change we can believe in.

Change That Works for You Rally
with Barack Obama

Joe Louis Arena
600 Civic Center Drive
Detroit, MI

Monday, June 16th
Doors Open: 6:30 p.m.
Program Begins: 8:30 p.m.


I CANNOT WAIT!!!

Has anyone attended BO rally?
I have a question- how early do you have to be there to get in??


I am happy for you! He once came to NJ and I didn't go. As far as getting in, just remember when he declared that he will be the nominee, they were lining-up early in the morning. The hall held 18,000, and they had to turn away about 15,000. I am way not near that place. I'll watch it on TV.


"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
 
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