Originally posted by iperson: Lol 4now. It won't be any big spending at all. You don't know Barack Obama at all, but that's ok, there's time to learn more about him. Big spending contrary to popular belief characterizes the republican Bush administration which threw away around a trillion dollars literally out the window never to be seen again. So a billion here or there for the poor isn't exactly going to be the reason for this country's impending bankruptcy.
But on the topic, exactly on the homeless (lol 4now- I remember our talks a few months back on this), and the vets- you can learn about issues at his website. It's best to register at www.my.barackobama.com where you can interact with people in your area and score points. Each time you login you score a point. For every phonecall you make you score 3 points. For participating in events you get 5 points, etc. There's a lot you can do for Barack.
You know, I want to say that I am really happy for you. Welcome to the Obama nation. It is only going to get better from now on. There is a great blog at dailykos.com with millions of people writing every day. You can join that too. And I am sorry I called you a racist earlier on, which you clearly are not.
(((((( big hug )))))))
Whatchutalkin bout Willis
I never said that I was in Obama's camp.
I suppose that means you are taking your hug back and that I am back to being a racist
But I will go over again to his site and look more closely this time.
This thing with Hillary is really sad.. she is looking real bad and pathetic with her behavior. She could have gone out somewhat graceful, but noooooooooooooooooooooooo. Now she really looks like a real LOSER.
Seems that you jumped ship just in time. She seems so desperate and humiliated, I hope she doesnt become more irrational and have this guy "taken out" just to satisfy her ego. Yes Kollerkot.. you were point on in those reportings in the past about Ron Brown, and Vince foster. dont want to add another name to the list.
Originally posted by Jasmin: It's reported on Hardball @MSNBC that Hillary was forced to concede and endorse Obama by her own passionate supporters, like PA governor Ed Randal, NY Congressman-Charlie Rangel and Iowa senator Tom Harkin. Instead of talking with her directly, these people went to media to bash Hillary for not conceding on Tuesday. They all have some political ambitious to call upon this bashing against Hillary on media. Otherwise, Hillary had no plan on conceding yet and was planning to take the matter at convention.
Has anyone knew hom much business Ophrah lost after endorsing Obama? I'm sure you all have heard about it. Price gotta pay...I guess.
Could you believe such a monumental victory during this primary season Obama is just 6 point ahead of Mccain despite of inspring millions of people? He never hold any executive post, and looking the highest office on the land!!! Like myself, millions of lifelong democrats are now in Mccain camp. Not because we support Mccain's position on issues, rather to stop Obama from sitting in the white house as he is most inexperienced and not tested person in US govt.
I just cannot blindly believe on someone's words alone, instead I need to see action in order to believe someone. We all know words are cheap. And Obama has offered only words so far. He has done nothing to bring "change" being a US senator for 3 yrs and many years as a Chicago legislator, then why should I and other people believe on his empty words of bringing "changes"?? Sorry, I might be a naive, but I'm certainly not a fool not to know the difference between words and actions.
I think what people are looking for is a motivational speaker and a motivational organizer than a leader since Obama has inspired people and brought some people together across the race and gender line, but he has certainly not proven his leadership despite of him having the chance in US Senate for 3 yrs and many years in Chicago legislation body. I wish every Hillary supporter to support John Mccain, a American war hero and a marverick. You go JohhnyMac...
Ok.. Like who's Hillary Clinton? Why are we talking about her?? MOVE ON (dot org) lol. For a second there.. I don't believe you're a lifelong democrat. You're a trailer republican trash. Didn't you vote Bush twice before?
Forced to concede? My god you're such a stupid blond. Obama crossed the 2118 delegates to clinch the nomination on Tuesday, and Clinton was forced? Yeah, she was, because Obama got the nomination.
In Arizona, for instance, 36 percent of all identity theft is for employment purposes, compared with only 5 percent in Maine, a state with far fewer illegal aliens. “To many law enforcement leaders in Arizona, this suggests that Arizona’s identity-theft epidemic is directly linked to the problem of illegal immigration,†says a recent report by Identity Theft 911, an Arizona company that helps businesses and individuals protect themselves.
Jerm, I agree that 36% is significant which ID theft is perpetrated for employment gains; however, your link fails to provide direct data linking ID theft squarely on illegal immigration. Yes, it uses an ad hominem argument stating that the states wit hthe highest illegal immigration also have the highest proliferation rates of ID theft. And this is what I am disagreeing with. From my professional experience, there are too many factors being discounted when dealing with ID theft and linking illegal immigration. For instance, mortgage fraud, credit card fraud, tax fraud, consumer fraud, and public information available through government agencies also contribute to ID theft which illegal immigrants may or may not be involved. But other groups such as gangs, criminal enterprises, unscrupulous individuals may be involved as well. And then you have to deal with the false reports of misuse ID theft.
That is why I would like to see more discussion on how to prevent ID theft than the unfounded allegations by placing undue fear as to who is allegedly responsible. For instance, I wold like to see some type of barrier around ATM machines so that individuals may not be able to steal the account numbers and/or name on the debit or credit card. Would like to see law enforcement personnel train human resource managers and employees in spotting fake or suspicious ID cards. Would like to have a national confidentiality law, if one does not already exist, on employees who hold or maintain confidential data with fines and/or prison time to any organization, business, individual, or other entity in the private sector and if such crime crosses state jurisdictions. I would also like to see a uniform code on a similar scale pass each state legislature. I do know that federal and state govenrment employees have such laws already in place.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
No, I don't take the hug back, nor do I think you're a racist. But I thought you were leaning for Obama since you said you don't support that obnoxious McCain. I guess you're sitting out the elections?
I still hope that you're going to vote for Obama.
ps. I don't think that everyone who doesn't vote for him is a racist. But many are- including Jasmin.
Originally posted by Kollerkrot: I think America is backwards when it comes to these things - is has to do with the Puritan influence in the early years of the USA and that America is only 200 years old. They threw the Puritans out of Europe then, and what did they do? They came overhere to unleash their backward ways. No serious, I think that the Puritan influence is still very rampant in the US.
It also has to do with the masses coming from Europe and elsewhere and by doing so, bringing their rites and practices and holding on to it, because this is what they remember from home. In the meantime, however, "Home" has moved on. I know that, because I have not been to Germany in a long time, I am holding on to the Germany that I know/knew, but that Germany doesn't exist anymore.
Koller, I take it you do not read history much. In the United States, there will always be two views, one economic and one religious. the Pilgrims came to the Americas because of religious persecution in Europe. the Puritans came from England and Holland. The other settlement, Jamestown, was for economic reasons, to hunt and trade. If you wanted to make money, Mercantilism was the only option in that time unless of course you were of royal lineage.
But let us take a look at what Europe did? In Spain, you had the three G's, God, Gold, and Glory. As a result, slavery, colonialism, death of ignominious peoples, all in the name of your king. Or how about Portugal, Belgium (the largest land grab in history), France, Russia, England, and Germany.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Mrs B WUSC would not be able to pay me enough to wear that pin. I will never support Obama.
Koller really needs to get out more often. Most Americans don't even know what a puritan is let alone follow any old tenats of the practice.
I agree with jermcool's assertion with the obvious conclusion concerning ID theft. Who else would need to hijack your identity? Given, there is a small minority of USCs who may need to. The majority are due to the illegal presence. I would also bet the actual number is higher than 36%. I smell PC applications here.
You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
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Originally posted by iperson: Forced to concede? My god you're such a stupid blond. Obama crossed the 2118 delegates to clinch the nomination on Tuesday, and Clinton was forced? Yeah, she was, because Obama got the nomination.
Hillary had the chance to take the matter to the convention by contexting the DNC ruling on counting of only 50% votes in MI and FL And just because Obama clinches a nomination...that doesn't mean she needs to concede and particulary endorse him, but she was insisted to do so in the name of party unification. There are hundred of websites opened recently as per FOX cable news which are petitioning to convince Hillary to run on Indepedence ticket like Joe Liberman did, but she is so loyal to Democrat party even though she has been duped by it. So I guess she deserves whatever is happening to her. All these new websites are vigirously going after Obama and spreading the truth about him which did not come out before.
Telling someone stupid, racist, dead brain person, trash and etc because his and her views are different than yours shows how some immigrants are bringing their rotten mentality to this country. In this country, we respect other people's right to express their views and choose a candidate. But if you cannot respect our consitution on this then you might consider leaving this country. After all this country is ours and not yours even if you say caring about it...
Typical Yankee tell tale spin.
I see you're the Faux News person. LMAO. No wonder you're spewing this filth. Now I know where this comes from. You're parroting Faux News propaganda. Unlike you, Hillary Clinton is a classy lady, and yes she is loyal to the party she and her husband Bill Clinton built and ran for years. Now they are passing the torch to the younger generation that is going to completely change the way politics are done in Washington. We're moving this country into the future, and whatever opposition it may have, it is going to die away in time as the older generations pass away and bury all the divide and racism, and republican moronism.
**** IP...you know such much about the politics how come you are not running I guess you are not a good person and you cannot bring any change for us.....ROFLMAO
I am not racist. I am not anti-immigrant. I am AGAINST CRIMINALS, FRAUDSTERS, WHO DISOBEY THE LAW, BREAK THE LAW AND PERPETRATE THE FRAUD.
You may not like what I have to say but that does not mean I am wrong.
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WUSC, you want to know the truth. She can't even vote. For all her soap box propoganda and insults that basic first step is unavailable. Whats more, someone here was banned from the DNC.
You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
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Originally posted by davdah: I agree with jermcool's assertion with the obvious conclusion concerning ID theft. Who else would need to hijack your identity? Given, there is a small minority of USCs who may need to. The majority are due to the illegal presence. I would also bet the actual number is higher than 36%. I smell PC applications here.
Anyone on welfare, anyone who would love your perfect credit score, anyone who may want to take revenge, just to name a few. Anyone one can be a victim of ID theft and anyone can perpetrate the crime as well. The choice to commit the crime goes beyond immigration status you are in or lack thereof.
The misconception that I see here is that you only think two dimensionally; that eliminating one group, whatever group that is, would significantly decrease ID theft.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Two dimensionally Hudson? As a matter of fact I speak from experience. Mine was stolen for the reasons you spoke of. Ease of gaining credit. The reality is the rate of ID theft has increased proportionally to the increase in illegal presence. Although mine wasn't used by illegals it doesn't mitigate the fact that most are probably used for unauthorized employment. Even if the 36% rate depicted is accurate are you saying that is acceptable? In my mind it only adds justification and benefit to stepped up enforcement. We need to curb crime. Not justify it.
You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
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Originally posted by davdah: Two dimensionally Hudson? As a matter of fact I speak from experience. Mine was stolen for the reasons you spoke of. Ease of gaining credit. The reality is the rate of ID theft has increased proportionally to the increase in illegal presence. Although mine wasn't used by illegals it doesn't mitigate the fact that most are probably used for unauthorized employment. Even if the 36% rate depicted is accurate are you saying that is acceptable? In my mind it only adds justification and benefit to stepped up enforcement. We need to curb crime. Not justify it.
Never said it was acceptable Davdah, but from my experience I have had people write letters as simple as, "I do not know who stole my identity, but I did not work there." When I asked whether the individual filed a criminal complaint, or any evidence of not working there, the letters went ignored or scant information at best. Had no choice but to assest the tax liability. There were exceptions which the indivudual did provide a police report, replies from credit bureaus, etc. And at times it was obvious to determine when the names were no where clsoe to similarities.
But the problem is how do you deal with increased identity theft when illegal immigration is not on the rise in that state? For instance, Ohio and Washington state have high rates of increase identity theft, but a decrease in illegal immigration. Is it coincidence, a fluke, or something else?
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Here is something you may not be aware of. When things like this happen people have no clue what to do. They make the false assumption that their government will right the wrong. That the creditors/IRS/Gov somehow know who is who and will correct it out of good will. They are unaware of the fact that it is entirely up to them to defend themselves. Guilty until proven innocent.
When you respond back asking for 'proof' most people take that as the government calling them a liar and not caring about the truth. How can they prove it? They weren't there. They already told you that. What more can they give?
Why is the preponderance of proof put upon the accused? Why isn't it your job to prove they did work at the meat packing plant? Send someone there to investigate. Ask the supervisor, bring the picture of the person denying it. One simple question. Is this John Smith who worked here?
It can even be automated. Create a system where employers with questionable people can log in and view photos to verify the identity. No trip to the job site required. Suggest that to your supervisor and see what happens. They will laugh and say, 'But we won't get any of this tax money if we make it too easy to prove false identity'.
You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
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Hudson, don't get all defensive. I don't want to insult. I think religion dictates a big part of all of our lives, whether we like it or not, or whether we are religious or not. The church's influence on the making of Europe and what came out of Europe is huge.
I guess the Puritans were then what is now the Taliban....
"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
Originally posted by davdah: Mrs B WUSC would not be able to pay me enough to wear that pin. I will never support Obama.
Koller really needs to get out more often. Most Americans don't even know what a puritan is let alone follow any old tenats of the practice.
I agree with jermcool's assertion with the obvious conclusion concerning ID theft. Who else would need to hijack your identity? Given, there is a small minority of USCs who may need to. The majority are due to the illegal presence. I would also bet the actual number is higher than 36%. I smell PC applications here.
OK, davdah, you can call me Koller! I get out a lot, that's how see what I see. I do believe that lots of American's don't know what Puritans are, but that doesn't mean, that they are not influenced by. America is only 200 years old and there hasn't been enough time, to totally separate.
Ha, ha, ha! Puritans are actually Calvinists, which in turn are the born again christians. And, guess what, America is full of them, ha, ha, ha! I always new about the Calvinists, because they originated from the Lutherans in Europe. I just never connected them to the Puritans. Turns out it is the same thing. So, Hudson, are you still debating America is not influenced by Puritans?
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"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
Originally posted by Kollerkrot: I guess the Puritans were then what is now the Taliban....
YOu cannot compare the Puritans to the Taliban. This is what I will disagree with.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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This thing with Hillary is really sad.. she is looking real bad and pathetic with her behavior. She could have gone out somewhat graceful, but noooooooooooooooooooooooo. Now she really looks like a real LOSER.
I guess you are not a good person and you cannot bring any change for us.....ROFLMAO
