It isn't so twisted. Anyone who craves power and authority will normally seize the moment when it presents itself. The only complexity, if there is one, are the events that took place allowing it go on as long as it did. Albeit very simply defined, the people of Germany wanted a savior from what happened in WWI and the Jews were the perfect scapegoat.

Politics is acquiring a following which translates into votes. To do that you need to offer a solution to some perceived problem. In the instant case, racism. To have a problem you need perpetrators. Here come the hill billies. An unsophisticated bunch who at the moment are being stabbed in the back with undeserved labels. Barak is being offered up as the anti-racist candidate. Anyone who opposes him must therefor be racist. That is the twisted logic.

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Originally posted by davdah:
It isn't so twisted. Anyone who craves power and authority will normally seize the moment when it presents itself. The only complexity, if there is one, are the events that took place allowing it go on as long as it did. Albeit very simply defined, the people of Germany wanted a savior from what happened in WWI and the Jews were the perfect scapegoat.

Politics is acquiring a following which translates into votes. To do that you need to offer a solution to some perceived problem. In the instant case, racism. To have a problem you need perpetrators. Here come the hill billies. An unsophisticated bunch who at the moment are being stabbed in the back with undeserved labels. Barak is being offered up as the anti-racist candidate. Anyone who opposes him must therefor be racist. That is the twisted logic.

AMEN BROTHER SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE PARTIOT

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Originally posted by davdah:
It isn't so twisted. Anyone who craves power and authority will normally seize the moment when it presents itself. The only complexity, if there is one, are the events that took place allowing it go on as long as it did. Albeit very simply defined, the people of Germany wanted a savior from what happened in WWI and the Jews were the perfect scapegoat.

Politics is acquiring a following which translates into votes. To do that you need to offer a solution to some perceived problem. In the instant case, racism. To have a problem you need perpetrators. Here come the hill billies. An unsophisticated bunch who at the moment are being stabbed in the back with undeserved labels. Barak is being offered up as the anti-racist candidate. Anyone who opposes him must therefor be racist. That is the twisted logic.

As far as Hitler goes, his feelings towards the Jews didn't start becoming apparent until he was already in power, and the persecution started off so slowly that not only was the world unaware of it, but the German public was to a good extent as well. He came to power based on his charisma and the plans he had to get Germany back to the status it once enjoyed. Even the Jewish community felt, at the start, that he would be good for the country and indeed, at the start of his reign, Germany's economy was improved and the German people were buoyed by the changes and the flouting of the treaty that had repressed them for so long. Nobody knew the extent of his madness until it was far too late - do you really think they would've put him in power if they had been aware?

I agree with Davdah on the twisted logic and to be honest, iperson, I stopped paying any attention to you the moment you pulled out the race card. It's not just a poor argument, it's just plain lazy.

I am not going to go down that slippery slope with you Davdah.
You know it's steep, hopefully.

Anyone who doesn't agree with me on this board is the Hitler in disguise

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Originally posted by iperson:
I am not going to go down that slippery slope with you Davdah.
You know it's steep, hopefully.

Its always fun on the way down.

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Originally posted by davdah:

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Originally posted by iperson:
I am not going to go down that slippery slope with you Davdah.
You know it's steep, hopefully.

Its always fun on the way down.

As long as it's a woman !

Ok, my job on this forum is done.
It's ok to be homophobic, ignorant, and racist. It's called being comfortably numb.
Hitler was ok too.

No matter what I say, what I quote, what articles I bring, those above are still the most sacred republican values.

Who wants to argue with it?

The more the better E.

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Originally posted by davdah:
The more the better E.

You've got that right

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Originally posted by davdah:
The more the better E.

Are you sending love to E Davdah??

I guess he was actually referring me to you

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Originally posted by OldE:
I guess he was actually referring me to you

I think not lol

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Originally posted by Sprint_girl07:

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Originally posted by davdah:
The more the better E.

Are you sending love to E Davdah??

No, just a man to man agreement on his prior post. Not to worry, I will always fly straight.

LOL Glad to hear it my friend

Or in this case, slide.

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Originally posted by iperson:
Ok, my job on this forum is done.
It's ok to be homophobic, ignorant, and racist. It's called being comfortably numb.
Hitler was ok too.

No matter what I say, what I quote, what articles I bring, those above are still the most sacred republican values.

Who wants to argue with it?

No one has to. Godwin's Law. You lose.

Very interesting discussion...Insofas as racism is concerned, I would have to say though that there will be groups of people who won't vote for Obama because they're both racists and non-racists. There are racists who won't vote for him because they don't like his color. Then of course, there are those who won't vote for him, not because they're racists, but because they prefer somebody else who they think would do the job of being a president better.

Here's an update on the Electoral College:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics...toral_college_update

Election 2008: Electoral College Update
Electoral College: Democrats 200 Republicans 189 Leaners 111 Toss-Up 38
Friday, May 23, 2008

Today, Rasmussen Reports released new polling data showing Barack Obama opening a modest lead in Colorado and John McCain holding a double-digit lead in Florida. However, as with all recent state polling, these results do nothing to change the Electoral College projections of, the Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator. On Friday, Democrats continue to lead in states with 200 Electoral Votes while the GOP has the advantage in states with 189. States with 111 Votes are “leaners,” and states with 38 Votes are Toss-Ups.

When “leaners” are added, the Democrats lead 260 to 240 (see summary of recent state-by-state results).

Those numbers have remained stable for a long time while the political nation has focused on the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. However, significant shifts are likely in the near future, partly due to an increased focus on the general election and partly due to adjustments currently being made by Rasmussen Reports.

Currently, the polling data used for each state is based upon an average of the results for Barack Obama vs. John McCain and Hillary Clinton vs. John McCain. Within the next two weeks, we will adjust that practice and base the projections solely on the polling data featuring Barack Obama vs. John McCain. As a practical matter, this will shift some states (i.e.--Colorado) more in the Democratic direction while others (i.e.—Florida) will shift somewhat in the GOP direction.

Additionally, Rasmussen Reports will make minor adjustments to other aspects of the formula. We will be using an updated method for measuring average poll results on each state race and will also begin factoring in the national Obama-McCain numbers when calculating the impact of the state’s voting history. All changes will be released at the same time to present the most up-to-the-minute assessment of the Electoral College prospects for Obama and McCain.

A total of 270 Electoral Votes are needed to win the White House. Leaners are states that narrowly lean to one party or the other at this time but remain competitive. See a summary of recent polls and Rasmussen Market expectations for key states in the Electoral College showdown.

Twelve states with 149 Electoral Votes are either a pure Toss-Up or just slightly leaning to one party or the other. These are likely to be the early battleground states of Election 2008: Florida (27), Pennsylvania (21), Ohio (20), Michigan (17), Virginia (13), Missouri (11), Wisconsin (10), Colorado (9), Iowa (7), Nevada (5), New Mexico (5), and New Hampshire (4).

The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator will be updated daily until Election Day. More information below table.

Balance of Power Calculator - Electoral College
Safe Republican 168
Likely Republican 21
Leans Republican 51
Toss-Up 38
Leans Democratic 60
Likely Democratic 43
Safe Democratic 157

This Balance of Power Calculator aggregates data from a variety of sources to provide a comprehensive assessment of the state-by-state race for the White House. Data inputs include the latest Rasmussen Reports poll in a state, an average of the latest polling from other firms, Rasmussen Markets data, Intrade market data, the aggregated rankings of selected analysts, the state’s voting history, and national party identification trends. The weight given to each variable will vary over time (i.e.—polls will be counted more heavily in October than today, a state’s history will be counted more heavily today than in October).

Until the Democratic nominee is determined, the polling data used for each state will be based upon an average of the results for Barack Obama vs. John McCain and Hillary Clinton vs. John McCain.

Status changes will be noted as they occur with an explanation of what factors brought about the change.

The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator currently projects 157 Electoral Votes as “Safely Democratic,” 43 Electoral Votes as “Likely Democratic” and 60 Electoral Votes as “Leans Democratic.”

On the other side of the aisle, 168 Electoral Votes are projected as “Safely Republican,” 21 are projected as “Likely Republican” and 51 are projected as “Leans Republican".

Safely Democratic: California (55), Connecticut (7), Delaware (3), District of Columbia (3), Hawaii (4), Illinois (21), Maine (4), Maryland (10), Massachusetts (12), New York (31), Rhode Island (4), and Vermont (3).

Likely Democratic: Minnesota (10), New Jersey (15), Oregon (7), and Washington (11).

Leans Democratic: Iowa (7), Michigan (17), New Mexico (5), Pennsylvania (21) and Wisconsin (10).

Toss-Up: Colorado (9), Nevada (5), New Hampshire (4), and Ohio (20).

Leans Republican: Florida (27), Missouri (11), Virginia (13).

Likely Republican: Arkansas (6) and North Carolina (15).

Safely Republican: Alabama (9), Alaska (3), Arizona (10), Georgia (15), Idaho (4), Indiana (