Originally posted by speed_025: To all Obama Supporters,
Sen J. Edwards endorsed Sen Obama!
the big ?????? is he gonna be his running mate
Obama (Pres) Edwards ( Vice Pres?)
If Edwards becomes Obamas running mate, Sen Obama might lose the independents that voted for him in the primaries and retain some, if not most, of the Clinton supporters.
Generally you want a VP who is somewhat more left or right to your views. For instance, President Reagan, a very staunch conservative, had GHW Bush, a moderate, as his VP. Clinton, a moderate, had Gore, a staunch Left Democrat, as his VP, and Bush Jr, a moderate, has Cheney, a very staunch conservative, as his VP.
I also do not think Obama will choose Sen Clinton. She wil be too much of a loose cannon as a VP and will probably want Obama as her VP in her Presidential fantasy.
I am still wondering who will be McCain's VP. Would it be an unknown, Mrs Rice, Former Gov Huckabee, ro former Sen Thompson? My bet is Mus Rice.
Rice, according to her is a no go - she wants to go back to CA. I think she wants to get out of politics alltogether.
Huckabee maybe, because they are talking alot and have recently been to Lousianna, together with wives and all.
Sen. Obama - I am happy J. Edwards endorsed him. Now all the delegates that Edwards had, can move toward Obama - which I think they will do. I am just so psyched about a future America where everyone is American first and whathever ancestral package they carry comes second or even third. That is something that's always bothered me, that people here pay so much attention to their ancestry first and see themselves as Americans second. When Sen. Obama campaigned in Illinois recently, there was this older woman standing up bravly and proclaiming that he is not African-American, but that he is an American! People have to change their perception in this regard and a Sen. Obama presidency will be able to do that. I want people to come together for intelligence reasons and not wait for another catastrophy to then come together and proclaim "United we Stand".
I think he will choose a very moderate perhaps even a Republican (Hagel) for his running mate - yes, there have been talks about this. I don't think it's gonna be Edwards because of the 10-year poverty deal they where talking about yesterday. He might call him to a cabinet position. If Edwards would be a potential running mate, he would not have to make any deals with him in this regard.
.....I may condemn what you say, but I will risk my life for that you may say it - Voltaire!
It's gonna be most probably sen. Webb for Obama. I will bet on it. I don't care who is gonna be McSame's choice, because it doesn't matter anyway. He's an already loser, to be gone forever from the public view (thank god).
Have you read Koller, the Audacity of Hope? I am almost at the end, and I have to say: I LOVE Obama. I wish more people read his book and got to know him. If everybody did, he'd get 100% of vote. Except for the illitarate and the dumb Re****s that is.
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I also do not think Obama will choose Sen Clinton. She wil be too much of a loose cannon as a VP and will probably want Obama as her VP in her Presidential fantasy
That's what Im thinking too. Thou Im still a Hilary supporter up to the end lol!
Huckabee thinks assassinating Democrats is funny by smintheus Fri May 16, 2008 at 01:31:14 PM PDT
Really there are no depths of viciousness or lawlessness that the modern self-styled conservative won't embrace and even guffaw about. Today at the NRA gathering, Republican Mike Huckabee joked about an (imaginary) attempt on Barack Obama's life. The pretext for raising the specter of assassination? Nothing more than a loud sound he'd heard offstage:
"That was Barack Obama, he just tripped off a chair, he's getting ready to speak," said the former Arkansas governor, to audience laughter. "Somebody aimed a gun at him and he dove for the floor."
Think of that, this audience laughed about shooting the likely Democratic nominee for president.
This is about more than Mike Huckabee, with his bizarre habit of threatening to use violence in the political arena. This is about a Republican establishment that encourages, rewards, and lionizes those on the right who use threats of violence to expand the boundaries in public discourse of the "acceptable" demonization of Democrats. Where will it end?
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from dailykos.com
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A Short Story by BarbinMD Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:55:05 AM PDT An abbreviated look at the media's take on the current state of the Republican Party.
From the New York Times:
Republican defeat...waves of apprehension across an already troubled party...heavy losses in the fall...a once-steadfast Republican district...foreshadowing more losses for the party in November...the Republican label seems tarnished...level of distress was evident...issued a dire warning...the Republican Party had been severely damaged...could lose 20 seats in the House and 6 in the Senate...putting into play Southern seats that were once solidly Republican...the string of Republican losses suggested a problem with the Republican label...a tense, private post-mortem...worried House Republicans demanded that their leadership come up with a plan to stave off potentially devastating losses...vast dissatisfaction, frustration and discouragement...The Republican brand is down...the results in these special elections portend ominously for House Republicans...some expressed despair about the months ahead...
The Associated Press:
Stunned House Republicans...their third straight election defeat in once-friendly territory...the worst since Watergate and far more toxic than the fall of 2006 when we lost 30 seats...President Bush is unpopular...Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee enjoyed a cash advantage of $44 million to $7 million...that had been in Republican hands for three decades...necessitated by resignations by incumbent Republicans...backfire...We're not going to be able to scare people into voting Republican... the loss of three seats in special elections was a significant blow... They are canaries in the coal mine, warning of far greater losses in the fall...leaves Republicans with only 199 seats, compared with 236 for the Democrats...fathered a child out of wedlock...given the party's financial problems...
And the Washington Post:
House Republicans turned on themselves yesterday...contemplating widespread Democratic gains in November...decried their leadership as out of touch with the political catastrophe they face..."The Change You Deserve" -- came under mocking fire...mirrors the advertising slogan for the antidepressant Effexor...a deficiency in our message and a loss of confidence in the American people...loss in northern Mississippi was devastating...Republicans face a flood of retirements...badly damaged by scandals...Republican strategists were downcast...fail to understand the deep seeded antipathy toward the President, the war, gas prices, the economy, foreclosures...a tense closed-door meeting...I've never seen members so frustrated or demoralized...
Good times
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I also do not think Obama will choose Sen Clinton. She wil be too much of a loose cannon as a VP and will probably want Obama as her VP in her Presidential fantasy
That's what Im thinking too. Thou Im still a Hilary supporter up to the end lol!
I don't have a problem going for Obama thou.
Obama will not choose Hillary as VP running mate. He wants to make sure he will stay alive so her presidential fantasy wont come true due to an untimely accident.
Kollerkrot, that video was kind of funny. A bunch of sound bites strung together. You know as well as I do most of it was taken out of context.
As an example: Everyone is running to the side of Barak about his connection with the reverend Jeramiah. And now, a tie is trying to be shown between Farwell and Mc Cain. Here is the difference. McCain never said Farwell was his spiritual leader. McCain does not attend Farwells ministry. He also acknowledged the fact that Farwell is the 'far' right. Meaning he knows Farwell's political ideology is not appropriate. Has Barak said anything similar concerning his leftist backers? No, he defends or is silent. That says a lot.
About g a y marriage. He said he doesn't care if they do it. Just that no 'legal' standing should be given to it. Big difference. If he doesn't think it should be recognized, so what. It shouldn't be. We need to draw a moral line somewhere.
About the war. We already won. Right now we are trying to put that country on the right track. There are many groups trying to upset the good we are doing. Look to Iran and other places if you want to point the finger at who is stifling progress.
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Originally posted by davdah: Kollerkrot, that video was kind of funny. A bunch of sound bites strung together. You know as well as I do most of it was taken out of context.
As an example: Everyone is running to the side of Barak about his connection with the reverend Jeramiah. And now, a tie is trying to be shown between Farwell and Mc Cain. Here is the difference. McCain never said Farwell was his spiritual leader. McCain does not attend Farwells ministry. He also acknowledged the fact that Farwell is the 'far' right. Meaning he knows Farwell's political ideology is not appropriate. Has Barak said anything similar concerning his leftist backers? No, he defends or is silent. That says a lot.
About g a y marriage. He said he doesn't care if they do it. Just that no 'legal' standing should be given to it. Big difference. If he doesn't think it should be recognized, so what. It shouldn't be. We need to draw a moral line somewhere.
About the war. We already won. Right now we are trying to put that country on the right track. There are many groups trying to upset the good we are doing. Look to Iran and other places if you want to point the finger at who is stifling progress.
Farwell passed away in 2007. I Think you mean Rev John Hagee. BTW Cornerstone Church, where John Hagee is senior pastor, has done about as much in terms of missionary work as the Chruch that Wright was a Senior pastor.
You're such a twisted liar Davdah- the reason I don't respond to you. 10 years the lowest wage was $5, and it's always about taxes right? It's a blinding hypocrisy of you repugs, nothing more nothing else. Inflate deficit so that next generations will have to pay for them for a hundred years, but who cares right? We have a society here to run that gets more and more complex, on top of having to retain the competitive edge on the global market. Reality is more complex than just the simplistic no taxes. Simpletons think that way and those are people like you. Trickle down effect right? Where are the wages and benefits for low wage workers cut on every corner? Caymen Islands? Sounds about right.
Obama will not choose Hillary but not because of Hillary or whatever. It's because Obama likes risk taking and he wants a brand new government with people unsoiled with Washington.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by iperson: You're such a twisted liar Davdah- the reason I don't respond to you. 10 years the lowest wage was $5, and it's always about taxes right? It's a blinding hypocrisy of you repugs, nothing more nothing else. Inflate deficit so that next generations will have to pay for them for a hundred years, but who cares right? Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2002
According to Current Population Survery estimates for 2002, some 72.7 million American workers were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.6 percent of all wage and salary workers.1 Of those paid by the hour, about 570,000 were reported earning exactly $5.15, the prevailing Federal minimum wage, and another 1.6 million were reported with wages below the minimum.2 Together, these 2.2 million workers with wages at or below the minimum made up 3.0 percent of all hourly-paid workers. Tables 1 - 10 present data on a wide array of demographic and socioeconomic characteristics for these low-wage workers. The following are some highlights from the 2002 data.
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Minimum wage workers tend to be young. About half of workers earning $5.15 or less were under age 25, and slightly more than one-fourth were age 16-19. Among teenagers, 10 percent earned $5.15 or less. About 2 percent of workers age 25 and over earned the minimum wage or less. However, among those age 65 and over, the proportion was about 5 percent. (See table 1 and table 7.) *
About 4 percent of women paid hourly rates reported wages at or below the prevailing Federal minimum, compared with about 2 percent of men. (See table 1.) *
The proportion of hourly-paid workers receiving $5.15 or less was about 3 percent for whites, blacks, and Hispanics. For whites and Hispanics, women were more likely than men to be low-wage earners. (See table 1.) *
Never-married workers, who also tend to be quite young, are more likely to earn the minimum wage or less than persons who are married. (See table 8.) *
The likelihood of a worker being paid the minimum wage or less is inversely related to the level of education attained. Among hourly-paid workers age 16 and over, a little over 2 percent of those who had a high school diploma but had not gone on to college earned the minimum or less, compared with less than 2 percent for those who had obtained a college degree. (See table 6.) *
Part-time workers (persons who usually work less than 35 hours per week) were much more likely than their full-time counterparts to be paid $5.15 or less (about 8 percent versus about 2 percent). About 1 in 10 workers putting in fewer than 15 hours per week earned the minimum or less. (See table 1 and table 9.) *
By occupational group, the proportion of hourly-paid workers whose earnings were reported at or below $5.15 ranged from a low of less than 1 percent for persons employed in managerial and professional specialty jobs and in precision production, craft, and repair positions, to a high of about 10 percent for those in service jobs. Roughly two-thirds of all low-wage workers in 2002 were in service-type occupations, mostly in food service jobs. (See table 4.) *
Among industry groups, the proportion of workers with reported hourly wages at or below $5.15 was highest in retail trade (about 8 percent), agriculture (about 2 percent), and services (also about 2 percent). About three-fifths of all low-wage workers were employed in retail trade, and nearly one-fourth worked in services. It should be recognized that for many working in these two industries, tips and commissions might supplement the hourly wages received. (See table 5.) *
Among the four broad geographic regions, the West had the lowest proportion of hourly workers with earnings at or below $5.15 (about 2 percent), while the South had the highest (about 4 percent). For a number of States, the proportion of hourly-paid workers earning at or below the Federal minimum wage exceeded the national average; in many other States, the proportion was much lower. Some States have minimum wage laws establishing minimum wage standards that exceed the Federal level of $5.15 per hour. (See table 2 and table 3.) *
The proportion of hourly-paid workers earning the prevailing Federal minimum wage or less has trended downward since 1979, when data first began to be collected on a regular basis. (See table 10.)
Source: U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics. Bureau of Labor Statistics' data on minimum wage earners are derived from the Current Population Survey (CPS), a nationwide sample survey of households that includes questions enabling the identification of hourly-paid workers and their hourly wage rate. Data in this summary are 2002 annual averages.
So what's your point Hudson, that all the McDonald, Wendys, Burger King, Taco Bell etc. workers are negligible because they constitute a small percentage? How many people earned $6 an hour and how many earned $10 an hour that could pay health insurance? How does the ratio of the 400.000 insurance peddlers work against the 50+ million of uninsured people in this country? Shall we save the 400.000 or the 50-70 million Hudson, or are they negligible?
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