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The guy is too self rightous and too smooth a talker to not be hiding something substantial. This stunt along with several others has me seriously wondering what his motivations really are. As for me being back. Ehh, someone has to being some balance to this board. Too much extremism going on.



Vote Republican and this country will still be worth sneaking into.
 
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u mean o-bomba?
 
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Arent you a rethug Davdah?
You have NO SAY as to who Obama is, and whether Obama is better or Clinton. THis is NOT your election. YOu don't belong in the Dem party, and when WE win the presidency, and all senate and congress seats, I advise you do self deport because you don't belong in the new United States.
YOu belong in H E L L. So take my advise and self deport. YOu are not wanted in this country. BEcause you are a nasty rethug. One of those Repugs that ruined this country and ran it to the ground. You are thiefs and criminals who belong in prison, as well as all repug dumb dimwit supporters. YOu are not worthy to be called Americans. YOU are a low life Davdah, and so is Hudson, and so is 4now. And thousands if not millions of criminal hypocrites in the rep party.
YOu have no say anymore. YOu are not American anymore.


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As always we will be in opposition. It seems you have switched sides. Don't you have to question why Obama is disrespecting the flag? Or his close ties to the rev Jeremiah? The same rev that says God **** America? Doesn't it make you wonder, who's side is he on?

In the end it won't matter. Slicksters like him will crumble under close scrutiny. After he wins his nomination, which is likely, it will only seal the deal for McCain.



Vote Republican and this country will still be worth sneaking into.
 
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I won't get drawn into another debate with you. That was a futile effort since no reasonable exchange was possible. You'll see soon enough when some more truth is exposed. Not to knock you. You have to believe in someone, so why not this guy. After all, like a lot of people, you want to follow a possible winner. Just be thoughtful to what it is you think your winning.



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More Barak unveiling


Recruiting

Are you a jew



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McCain on Immigration.

Booed in MI


(discaimer, Booing crowd is mostly democrats)



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GOP leaders warn of election disaster
By JOHN BRESNAHANT


Shellshocked House Republicans got warnings from leaders past and present Tuesday: Your party’s message isn’t good enough to prevent disaster in November, and neither is the NRCC’s money.

The double shot of bad news had one veteran Republican House member worrying aloud that the party’s electoral woes — brought into sharp focus by Woody Jenkins’ loss to Don Cazayoux in Louisiana on Saturday — have the House Republican Conference splitting apart in “everybody for himself” mode.

“There is an attitude that, ‘I better watch out for myself, because nobody else is going to do it,’” the member said. “There are all these different factions out there, everyone is sniping at each other, and we have no real plan. We have a lot of people fighting to be the captain of the lifeboat instead of everybody pulling together.”

In a piece published in Human Events, the Republicans’ onetime captain, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, warned his old colleagues that they face “real disaster” on Election Day unless they move immediately to “chart a bold course of real reform” for the country.

And in a closed-door session at the Capitol, National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Cole (R-Okla.) told members that the NRCC doesn’t have enough cash to “save them” in November if they don’t raise enough money or run strong campaigns themselves.
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Although a top House Republican brushed aside Gingrich’s broadside as “hype from a has-been who desperately wants to be a player but can’t anymore,” the harsh words from Cole were harder to ignore.

“It was a pretty stern line that he took with us,” said one House Republican.

Cole, on the defensive in the wake of special election losses in Louisiana and Illinois, pointed his finger Tuesday at his Republican colleagues, telling them that they had been too stingy in helping fund party efforts. He also complained that the Republicans ran weak candidates in both Louisiana and Illinois — a charge Cole made despite the fact that, as NRCC chairman, he could have played a major role in choosing the party’s candidates if he hadn’t made the decision to stay out of GOP primaries.

In his meeting with members, Cole distributed a document showing that even former Republican political guru Karl Rove had badmouthed Jenkins, according to GOP sources. It’s not clear whether Cole meant it as a criticism of Rove or of Jenkins.

But Cole’s overall message was clear, said members who sat through the meeting: “If you’re not out doing your own work, and you’re waiting for the NRCC to come in at the last minute and save you, it ain’t gonna happen.” That’s how one lawmaker characterized Cole’s talk, adding that the NRCC is “not going to have the resources” to help all members “and Democrats will have a lot more money.”

Republicans are suffering a crisis of confidence after the two special election losses. There’s talk that House Minority Leader John A. Boehner and other GOP leaders could be ousted if the party suffers double-digit losses in November.

Gingrich’s broadside did little to calm the GOP jitters.

While Gingrich softened his blow by circulating it privately to the GOP leadership on Monday — a day before it was publicly released — his language was still strong, and his message was seen as a broad attack on Boehner, Cole and the rest of the Republican leadership.

“The Republican loss in the special election for Louisiana’s 6th Congressional District last Saturday should be a sharp wake-up call for Republicans,” Gingrich wrote. “Either congressional Republicans are going to chart a bold course of real change or they are going to suffer decisive losses this November.”

Gingrich said Republicans cannot rely on the popularity of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, to carry them to victory in November. And he warned that attacks on Sens. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and on the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s former pastor, could backfire.

“The Republican brand has been so badly damaged that if Republicans try to run an anti-Obama, anti-Rev. Wright or, if Sen. Clinton wins, anti-Clinton campaign, they are simply going to fail,” Gingrich said. “This model has already been tested with disastrous results.”

The NRCC ran TV ads tying Cazayoux to national Democratic figures in the Louisiana special election, only to see Democrats grab control of a House seat that had been in the GOP column for more than three decades.

Gingrich, who was pushed out as speaker following GOP losses in the 1998 midterm elections, advocated “an emergency, members-only” meeting of House Republicans in order to hash out a new reform agenda before Memorial Day. He also called for a “complete overhaul” of the NRCC.

Gingrich said that if the GOP leadership would not go along with his plan, “then the minority who are activists should establish a parallel organization dedicated to real change.” He offered nine policy proposals designed to achieve that goal, including repealing federal gas taxes, reforming the Census Bureau and declaring English as the official language of the United States.

Boehner tried to put the best face on Gingrich’s message. His spokesman, Michael Steel, said that Boehner “certainly agrees — and has said repeatedly — that Republicans can only succeed this year by being agents of change and reform.” Steel said Republicans have to convince voters that they can “fix” Washington and that, in the coming weeks, they will be “laying out Republican policies that embody the sort of changes we need.”

But there is no question that Gingrich has identified a nervous undercurrent among House Republicans that could morph into full-fledged panic if the GOP loses a special election next Tuesday in Mississippi. Republican Greg Davis is squaring off against Democrat Travis Childers for the House seat held by former Rep. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), who was appointed to the Senate to replace retired Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.).

With internal polls from both parties showing the race as a tossup, the GOP is putting on a full-court press. The White House has dispatched Vice President Cheney to Mississippi to campaign on Davis’ behalf. And Wicker, Lott, Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour will hold events for Davis this weekend and early next week, according to GOP sources.

House Republicans will hold a rally with President Bush on Wednesday morning, with all 199 members invited to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. to show solidarity with the president, according to GOP sources.

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I hope Rethugs stay this stupid all election season (they usually do anyway).


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FAUX NEWS AGAIN!


.....I may condemn what you say, but I will risk my life for that you may say it - Voltaire!
 
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You meant Fixed News. Lol.
Hi Kollerkrot, how are you?

I was wondering... Maybe you have an answer.
There are about 300+ million people in this country right?
How come then only about 30+ million voted in Dem primaries?? Where is the rest of the people??
There has been like 1+ million of repugs voting in the Repub primaries, so that's about 31 million.
Some number will be kids under 18 (is that the age to vote or is it 21?), and some prisoners, and some immigrants.
Are there any statistics on that? Why isn't the majority of eligible people voting??? and exercising their civic duty?
Just wondering.

Except for the fact of most repugs being shellshocked.. LMAO!


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I SAY PACK ALL THEM ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND DUMP THEM SOME WHERE IN AFRICA. NO DUE PROCESS, NO THIS OR THAT, A SIMPLE METHOD...PICK THEM AND SHIP THEM.


I am not racist. I am not anti-immigrant. I am AGAINST CRIMINALS, FRAUDSTERS, WHO DISOBEY THE LAW, BREAK THE LAW AND PERPETRATE THE FRAUD.

You may not like what I have to say but that does not mean I am wrong.
 
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Press IGNORE!!! to this oxy moron!!!

he's troll.

An Internet troll is someone who intentionally posts controversial/contrary messages in an on-line community/on-line discussion forum with the SOLE intention of baiting users into an argumentative response. Their comments are often fueled by an alternative agenda (i.e., religious, political), are ridiculous, highly opinionated, or unsupported; their interest is primarily in "fighting". They often go from site to site. The term is derived from the fishing technique known as trolling.
 
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You're spot on. I know a troll when I see one. And that's a typical troll.


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Not everyone is voting in primaries. This time around turnout was actually much higher than usual, because of all the hoopla around the two "historical" candidates. Turnout will be much higher in November, although still there are sooooo many Americans who simply just don't give a ****!

I call everyone that doesn't vote anti-American. I mean you hear people claiming how patriotic they are and how upset it makes them if someone doesn't put the hand over the heart during the anthem, or if a certain person doesn't wear a flag pin ----- so full a s.h.i.t


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Yes, go. Go away Obama. I'd rather have Hillary. At least she showed some respect for this country.

Obama and our flag


Did you hear that song - most horrible.

Hey davdah - the flag is behind him, there is no saluting a flag that is behind you. Go check the rules! That event was badly organized looks like more people don't know the rules around here. And, putting your hand over the heart is actually not required. Standing, however is required. Putting hand over heart is something that Americans do IF THEY SO PLEASE. People in uniform, are required to face the flag and salute.

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Press IGNORE!!! to this oxy moron!!!

he's troll.

An Internet troll is someone who intentionally posts controversial/contrary messages in an on-line community/on-line discussion forum with the SOLE intention of baiting users into an argumentative response. Their comments are often fueled by an alternative agenda (i.e., religious, political), are ridiculous, highly opinionated, or unsupported; their interest is primarily in "fighting". They often go from site to site. The term is derived from the fishing technique known as trolling.


Stalking me again. I thought you had me on ignore list yet you check all of my postings. Wow...that is something.


I am not racist. I am not anti-immigrant. I am AGAINST CRIMINALS, FRAUDSTERS, WHO DISOBEY THE LAW, BREAK THE LAW AND PERPETRATE THE FRAUD.

You may not like what I have to say but that does not mean I am wrong.
 
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Originally posted by Kollerkrot:
Not everyone is voting in primaries. This time around turnout was actually much higher than usual, because of all the hoopla around the two "historical" candidates. Turnout will be much higher in November, although still there are sooooo many Americans who simply just don't give a ****!

I call everyone that doesn't vote anti-American. I mean you hear people claiming how patriotic they are and how upset it makes them if someone doesn't put the hand over the heart during the anthem, or if a certain person doesn't wear a flag pin ----- so full a s.h.i.t


Agreed. They don't wear the pins themselves. Repugs are repugnant slime aka Rush Limbow, lol. Such a waste of air.

Koller, I was wondering what the numbers are. What is the number of people eligible to vote.
ON the other hand, I think those that aren't voting are just better off not voting- for us and for the country. They are too stupid to know anything outside their ratholes anyway. I wish more of them stayed in their holes,


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Yes, go. Go away Obama. I'd rather have Hillary. At least she showed some respect for this country.

Obama and our flag


Go away Obama, you say: He is not going anywhere. He is here to stay! McSame will never be able to beat him in November. I can't wait to see a Harvard graduate who graduated in the top ten percent of his class take on a 71 year old. I can't wait until November. Hillary: I am entirely agains her, but she just doesn't have flair. She is not connecting with the people, and when she noticed she wasn't focused and made some mistakes and later that she has no chance to win, she became desperate and lost it completely. I mean up to the point, that she was selling votes for 0.18/Gallon. That's not presidential!


.....I may condemn what you say, but I will risk my life for that you may say it - Voltaire!
 
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Originally posted by Kollerkrot:
Not everyone is voting in primaries. This time around turnout was actually much higher than usual, because of all the hoopla around the two "historical" candidates. Turnout will be much higher in November, although still there are sooooo many Americans who simply just don't give a ****!

I call everyone that doesn't vote anti-American. I mean you hear people claiming how patriotic they are and how upset it makes them if someone doesn't put the hand over the heart during the anthem, or if a certain person doesn't wear a flag pin ----- so full a s.h.i.t


Agreed. They don't wear the pins themselves. Repugs are repugnant slime aka Rush Limbow, lol. Such a waste of air.

Koller, I was wondering what the numbers are. What is the number of people eligible to vote.
ON the other hand, I think those that aren't voting are just better off not voting- for us and for the country. They are too stupid to know anything outside their ratholes anyway. I wish more of them stayed in their holes,


I don't know the number that is eligible to vote. I guess whoever is registered with the respective parties and then of course