Yeah, that's what I did.

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Originally posted by iperson:
Jasmin, stop thinking with your v.a.g.i.n.a and start thinking with your brain.

McCain Calls Obama Insensitive to Poor
By RASHA MADKOUR,AP
Posted: 2008-04-27 20:08:27

- Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Sunday called Democratic rival Barack Obama insensitive to poor people and out of touch on economic issues.

The GOP nominee-in-waiting rapped his Democratic rival for opposing his idea to suspend the tax on fuel during the summer, a proposal that McCain believes will particularly help low-income people who usually have older cars that guzzle more gas.

"I noticed again today that Sen. Obama repeated his opposition to giving low-income Americans a tax break, a little bit of relief so they can travel a little further and a little longer, and maybe have a little bit of money left over to enjoy some other things in their lives," McCain said. "Obviously Sen. Obama does not understand that this would be a nice thing for Americans, and the special interests should not be dictating this policy."

The Arizona senator deflected questions about his record on the Bush administration's tax cuts — he initially opposed them but now supports extending them — by again criticizing Obama.

"Sen. Obama wants to raise the capital gains tax, which would have a direct effect on 100 million Americans," McCain said. "That means he has no understanding of the economy and that he is totally insensitive to the hopes and dreams and ambitions of 100 million Americans who will be affected by his almost doubling of the capital gains tax."



In an interview with "Fox News Sunday," Obama said McCain "not only wants to continue some of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans and corporations, he actually wants to extend them, and he hasn't told us really how he's going to pay for them. It is irresponsible. And the irony is he said it was irresponsible."

Obama also said he would not raise the capital gains tax higher than it was under President Reagan and added, "I'm mindful that we've got to keep our capital gains tax to a point where we can actually get more revenue."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/25/campaign.wrap/index.html

Polls: Clinton, Obama in tight race in Indiana

Indiana a must win for Sen. Hillary Clinton, says Clinton backer James Carville

CNN's "poll of polls" shows Clinton, Sen. Barack Obama in dead heat in Indiana

Obama is heavily favored to win in North Carolina, which also holds primary May 6


Sen. Hillary Clinton campaigns this week in Indianapolis. Her supporters say she needs to carry Indiana on May 6.


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Three days after Sen. Hillary Clinton's win in Pennsylvania, a new CNN "poll of polls" shows a dead heat in Indiana ahead of the May 6 primary, the next crucial battleground that could decide the Democratic presidential nomination.


1 of 2 Sen. Barack Obama is tied with Clinton at 45 percent, with 10 percent of respondents unsure, according to the Indiana Democratic poll, an average of campaign surveys.

The poll of polls consists of three surveys: Research 2000 (April 23-24), ARG (April 23-24), and The Indianapolis Star (April 20-23). All polls include interviews conducted after the Pennsylvania primary, which Clinton won Tuesday by about 55 percent to 45 percent.

The Research 2000 poll released Friday showed Obama leading Clinton by 1 percentage point, 48 percent to 47 percent. The candidates are statistically tied given that poll's margin of error of plus or minus 5 percent.

The survey also shows both candidates are strong with constituencies that backed them in other states: Clinton easily wins among senior citizens and women, while Obama has the advantage with young voters.

With the campaign settled into a seemingly endless slugfest, roughly two-thirds of people in a separate survey done by the Pew Research Center said the race has gone on "too long."

Half of those polled said the campaign has become "too negative." And the candidates aren't the only ones fighting fatigue: More than a third said the closest race in a generation is "too dull."

Two months ago, 28 percent of voters in the same survey said the race was too negative, and one in four said it was too dull.

The unresolved contest also seems to be leaving Democrats feeling a little shell-shocked. Two months ago, roughly one in five Democrats thought the campaign was too negative, but the number now has risen to 50 percent, according to the Pew survey. Watch CNN's Candy Crowley on the Democrats' race to the finish line »

With nine primaries left before June 3, Indiana and North Carolina are the next front in the Democratic nomination fight. The May 6 contests have 187 combined delegates at stake.

Clinton's advisers appear to be focusing most efforts on Indiana, a state with lunch-bucket demographics that have proven friendlier to the former first lady. Indiana has 72 delegates.

One of Clinton's strongest supporters calls the state a "must win" for the senator from New York.

"I think it's going to be very difficult for Sen. Clinton if she loses both in Indiana and North Carolina," James Carville said Wednesday on CNN's "Larry King Live."

"If she wins in Indiana, it's going to cause some people to turn up and look around. I think it's a very important contest."

Clinton was in North Carolina early Friday, campaigning in Jacksonville, before heading to Indiana for events in Bloomington, Gary and East Chicago.

Obama has a significant lead in the polls in North Carolina and is heavily favored to win there.

Obama owes his victories throughout the nomination battle to African-Americans, young voters, upscale whites and independent voters.

Those voters come in bunches in North Carolina, and their ranks are growing.

Since the beginning of January, nearly 65,000 new voters between the ages of 18 and 24 have registered in the state as Democrats or unaffiliated voters. More than 67,000 new African-American voters have registered over the same period.

African-Americans are expected to make up around 40 percent of the primary electorate, giving Obama a healthy starting point in his chase for a large share of the state's 115 pledged delegates.

Obama is likely to capture votes in the Research Triangle, a thriving swath of counties in and around the Raleigh-Durham area filled with highly educated tech workers and medical researchers.

Clinton advisers acknowledge the tall odds there.

Clinton campaign Chairman Terry McAuliffe said earlier this week he sees North Carolina as "competitive," but the campaign's state director, Ace Smith, already has lowered expectations, saying he sees no chance for a victory.

At an event last week in Winston-Salem, Smith said a Clinton win in North Carolina "would be the biggest upset of the century."

Meanwhile, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, made it clear Thursday that she thinks Clinton and Obama shouldn't run on a joint ticket this fall.


"I don't think it's a good idea," she said on "Larry King Live." "First of all, the candidate, whoever he or she may be, should choose his or her own vice presidential candidate. I think that's appropriate. That's where you would see the comfort level, not only how to run but how to govern the country.

"And there's plenty of talent to go around to draw upon for a good, strong ticket. I'm not one of those who thinks that that's a good ticket."

Hi Proud,

I still remember that bet between you and Davdah before. Wonder what happens now?

Hi Mrs. B.,

Do you think that's why he left? LOL!!! I hadn't thought of it! That stinker!!! He didn't want to lose our bet.

Oh Davdah????? Come on out and fight like a man - lol!!!

Hey, Mrs B and Proud, don't call out the wolf out of the forest, as a saying goes, better keep him where he is (in the wolf's forest).

Did anyone have a chance to watch rev. Wright's speech in Detroit at the NAACP fundraiser?
He mentioned my university I graduated from (twice). Yey!
I thought this speech was very inspirational, and a lesson for me as an immigrant, about the history of the Black church in the United States, and him as a profound person of immeasurable depths. You should really listen to the WHOLE thing:

at youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_-FdgUDUdpw
(part 1- more parts available)
or on CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/video/
(over 36 minutes video down the middle)

I believe this speech may be one of the best speeches I've ever heard.
I only worry that there is enough thinking people in this country to understand this, and understand Obama. I hope there are more intelligent people here than the stupid ones.

I have to agree with this post referring to Rev. Wrights sermon. If one reads the whole sermon it has a great deal of truth and meaning. Yes, there are sections emphasized that to our Anglo world may not be politically correct, and if you take a sentence and separate it from the whole it sounds rather radical, but the sermon as a whole is very good.

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Originally posted by chuck:
I have to agree with this post referring to Rev. Wrights sermon. If one reads the whole sermon it has a great deal of truth and meaning. Yes, there are sections emphasized that to our Anglo world may not be politically correct, and if you take a sentence and separate it from the whole it sounds rather radical, but the sermon as a whole is very good.

Chuck,
What you said is true with most religious figures whether Gandhi, Dr King, or Hagee, among others. People take sermons out of context and make them worse or less than what they truly appear. I would say Dr Wright has been extremely disappointed, however, I also disagree with him on many points as well. Except for Biblical principles from my perspective, truth is relative from a human point of view. But I disagree even more those who want to demonize Dr Wright for what he said the same as those who want to demonize Rev Hagee. So, if you agree wit Dr Wright but demonize Rev Hagee, then are you not following the same path as those who demonize Dr. Wright?

Speaking of divisiveness, it's indeed Obama, Wright and crew, not Clinton, whose actions, slogans and speeches as a matter of fact lead to it.

The only problem I have with J. Wright is that he throws everybody and everyone under the bus, including Obama, and JFK. Under the politically correct American society bus that is. Other than that he's got everybody ON the bus.

'Cept maybe Jesus.

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Originally posted by ProudUSC:
Hi Mrs. B.,

Do you think that's why he left? LOL!!! I hadn't thought of it! That stinker!!! He didn't want to lose our bet.

Oh Davdah????? Come on out and fight like a man - lol!!!

Hi Proud,

Yup, if he doesn't come out, you win the bet by default!

quote:

Originally posted by iperson:
Hey, Mrs B and Proud, don't call out the wolf out of the forest, as a saying goes, better keep him where he is (in the wolf's forest).

Did anyone have a chance to watch rev. Wright's speech in Detroit at the NAACP fundraiser?
He mentioned my university I graduated from (twice). Yey!
I thought this speech was very inspirational, and a lesson for me as an immigrant, about the history of the Black church in the United States, and him as a profound person of immeasurable depths. You should really listen to the WHOLE thing:

at youtube:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_-FdgUDUdpw
(part 1- more parts available)
or on CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/video/
(over 36 minutes video down the middle)

I believe this speech may be one of the best speeches I've ever heard.
I only worry that there is enough thinking people in this country to understand this, and understand Obama. I hope there are more intelligent people here than the stupid ones.

Hi Iperson,

Thanks for sharing those links. I will check them out later.

Just a thought, there will always be people who may not like Obama, not because they're stupid, but for some other plausible reasons. Politics will always result in people divided over candidates. At the end of the day, it's a person's individual choice.

I know you support Obama now and good for you. I like your passion for politics and I'm sure you will be able to share things about Obama that may influence others for Obama. I'm definitely sure though that there will always be people who won't like him for one reason or another.

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Originally posted by 4now:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hudson:
Jasmin,
Rule of thumb in politics, if you are in the lead and you do not want to give exposure to your rival, do not debate. If you can expose your rival to the voter constituency, then debate.

This is so very true - many and most people do know that. Hillary knows that too, because when she ran for Senator in New York, she applied that very same rule. Now however, being the witch that she is, she is stirring up resentment among the people that do not know about these rules. I am very disapointed about her, because she is not fighting fair and I can just immagine that she would apply these same measures when meeting foreign heads of states, thereby dragging the whole of the US into that unfair theme of hers.

Mrs. B, I am aware of the fact that there are and always will be people who don't like Obama, and they are called racists, and a few more groups.

I am now working for Obama's campaign, making phone calls to the up and coming states, donating money, and time. That's all I can do right now.

Kollerkrot, Obama does have speechwriters, but I have yet to see one speech he hasn't written by himself.

Hi Iperson,

I'm sure the Obama camp welcomes your contribution to the group.

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Originally posted by Kollerkrot:

quote:

Originally posted by 4now:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hudson:
Jasmin,
Rule of thumb in politics, if you are in the lead and you do not want to give exposure to your rival, do not debate. If you can expose your rival to the voter constituency, then debate.

This is so very true - many and most people do know that. Hillary knows that too, because when she ran for Senator in New York, she applied that very same rule. Now however, being the witch that she is, she is stirring up resentment among the people that do not know about these rules. I am very disapointed about her, because she is not fighting fair and I can just immagine that she would apply these same measures when meeting foreign heads of states, thereby dragging the whole of the US into that unfair theme of hers.

This is a good point. Of course it makes sense, a candidate won't want extra media coverage to his/her opponent if he/she's in the lead.

Iperson, I see you switched affiliation! I remember in the beginning you supported Hillary.

I am giving money to Obama ($450) so far - not that I have so much, but I think it's worth the effort. I really like him and his genuine approach to everthing.

I had no idea that you guys are talking on here about the primary vote.

Hi Kollerkrot,

Yup, do visit here from time to time. And yes, Iperson is for Obama now.