And what independants or republicans think or feel, does NOT matter to the Democratic Nomination Process and to Democratic Party which set up this process that way on purpose. Keep that in mind.
Superdelegates are required to vote the first round for whom their constituencies voted. That won't push neither of the candidates over the required edge, and the second round of voting will follow during which the superdelegate MAY change their vote to whomever they think should be elected.
And this is where pledged delegates, nor popular vote DO NOT matter.

And don't you Hudson rejoice, and don't hold out any hopes whatsoever that this election will split the democrats and give McSame a chance of winning. HE WILL NOT WIN THE ELECTION UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.
Democrats will unite and oust the repugs out of ALL public offices for a long time to come.
The war is against republicans and we are all aware of it. Don't even hope Hudson. Not a chance in H E L L.

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I come here to have a discussion, not to read articles.

My advice is to skip the articles if you don't want to read them.

And my advise is for you to set up your own seperate article thread just like Explora or Beverly were doing. I don't see them or anyone else pasting any articles elsewhere. You're the only one that's doing that instead of forming your own opinions and expressing them in your own words.

I hope you consider doing that. Title the thread on the topic you are interested in and post those articles there. You are disrupting threads with those articles not only for me but also for everyone else.

All of the articles I post are placed in appropriately titled threads - no point in creating my 'own' new thread. I have posted nothing of a disruptive nature in anyone's thread.

As for expressing my own words, here goes. You need to find something more fulfilling in your life rather than coming here to toss insults at people. It's unbecoming of you and I'm growing very tired of the cat and mouse game you are trying to play with me. When I have an opinion, I express it. When you have an opinion, it is expressed in a demeaning and degrading manner to other members here. I consider you to be one of the most disruptive posters on the forum at the present time. If you don't have anything nice to say, just keep it to yourself, Iperson.

That's just your opinion PUSC, not reality.
You are playing the passive aggressive game trying to provoke me, and you know it. I don't attack anybody unless provoked or attacked. And most attacks I ignore, for example those of Sprint girl.

YOU disrupted my conversation with Jasmin and Hudson with your article. This was what set me off. So please keep the articles you read to yourself. Nobody's interested in reading them.
Do I paste all the articles I read here? No, because this thread would have a million posts by now. But if that's what you think is a discussion, then be my guest, I will post ALL articles I read on the net here. We will see if there will be any place left for discussion. And we'll see if you will like it.

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YOU disrupted my conversation with Jasmin and Hudson with your article. This was what set me off. So please keep the articles you read to yourself. Nobody's interested in reading them.

Ironically, it the article I posted regarding Obama winning Wyoming that started the conversation between you guys. . . hence, someone must be reading them.

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You are playing the passive aggressive game trying to provoke me, and you know it.

Furthermore, you've lost touch with reality. You point to a post where I tried to provoke you and I will eat my words. You have provoked me incessantly for the past few months. (There are witnesses to this, you know). You need to settle down and behave like an adult.

And you need to start discussing on a discussion forum instead of posting articles. It is not an article forum, it is a discussion forum, the last time I checked.

Passive aggressive provocation is not easily pinned down, and that's the point of your posts.
You have a tendency to like controversy and if there is none you like to create it by posting passive provocations.
Is that what you call adult behavior?

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Passive aggressive provocation is not easily pinned down, and that's the point of your posts.

I'll repeat. Please find a post of mine where I was provoking YOU into a controversial discussion. I haven't been trashing your name all over this forum; nor have I posted articles in YOUR threads; nor put posts here directing attention to you. You are the guilty party in this little game, Iperson. I don't know why you are trying to twist things around, but it won't work. There's too much evidence to the contrary posted on the board.

Yeah, pretend that that's the case, and play your passive aggressive game.
Whatever I said was a REACTION. Consult Explora what that means. As well as the fundamental laws of physics for clues.
You don't have any authority on this board to tell who is the instigator and who isnt. You are playing a dirty passive aggressive game on this board. That's what TROLLs do. You are this forum's TROLL PUSC.

You don't make any sense, Iperson. You truly need to seek professional help. You are really delusional.

I'll explain it to you then. In the meantime think whether you feel like the card dealer here. Sounds about right?
Do you feel like you live on this forum day in and out?
Could you live without ilw for more than a week, or a day?
First answer those questions for yourself.

Basically, there are a few types of trolls, but we only need two for the sake of this forum: aggressive type (Beverly), and passive aggressive type (you PUSC).
You could say I am an expert on the trolling behaviour on internet forums, as I've been around here and there.
For starters some definitions: do any of these sound familiar?

Trolling is a term that describes anyone who crosses or accesses boards with an agenda for the purpose of stirring up controversy.

Baiting: When someone poses a question that is rhetorical because they don't want an answer, they want interaction, which they hope to control and turn away from the issue or negate it.

Flaming: Anytime an answer is made personal for the purpose of putting another person's ideas, credibility or interaction in question--is another power play. Deliberately interjecting conversation that is designed to make people angry, respond or go off topic.

You have in your last post exhibited FLAMING. You questioned the validity of the content of my post. Baiting and flaming are two trolling tactics, and I've seen you perform both of them. This is why I have been having an issue with you PUSC. I don't like trolls. They make my skin crawl.

Trolls are banned on most forums, but not everyone is familiar with the concept. Most advanced forums catch this behavior in no time. The passive aggressive trolling is not too obvious, it is more clandestine and tends to live longer.

More to follow on this topic.

This comes from an urban dictionary of trolling behavior compiled by a friend of mine from a different forum. He put it this way:

Remember this is the urban dictionary language of forums. And thus we are discussing the behavior of forum trolls based on that definition.
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“In general terms, a troll is a poster who goes around and attacks certain chosen poster or a few in a covert manner."
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"A common ploy by some is to only do that to one at a time or a few posters so they can insult and attack many other posters at that same time by their negative behavrior. But they feel "safer" that way as they don't alienate most of the other posters at least those who do not understand what they are doing. But they are still attacking many posters but focus on a few."
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"Trolling comes into play (when) one or a few posters gang up on another one or a few which really what they are doing is singling a few out to make them the example for their displeasure with others. Many others can make repeated comments that these types of posters do not like but they do not go after them. They stick with a few as they do not want to alienate the rest. So they "buddy" up with most other posters while continuing the onslaught of attacks on a few. But they are still insulting and attacking many of the other posters at the same time."
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"Trolls also often tell falsehoods about other posters as well. And they sometimes switch tactics. So for awhile they come up with something that they get away with for awhile then they move on to something else they dream up."
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"Another tactic trolls do is they take the good arguments of another poster and twist them around. So if one points out that another poster needs to stop following them around, sometimes they will later accuse the person who brought that up. But it was them who was doing it. So part of their game is to confuse other posters and keep the game going."
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"Trolls can be found in many forums across the internet. Some are more full-time while others are part-time. Sometimes posters get peeved with one or a few and start doing the same characteristics and they can also buddy up with the full-time troll."
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"Buddying up is when trolls many times select a few posters to make their point with the whole forum but are more friendly with the majority of posters. That way they are more free to keep doing what they do. If they do it with many posters, a forum sometimes will work to get them off the board. So they do it because they feel safer."
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"So another example is that some posters these trolls are peeved with can be much worse, yet they still only go after a few. One poster can say something strong but still fairly mild and be attacked. Another one comes along and can say something much worse and the troll is friendly to them. As again, they focus on a few posters to do their "work"."
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"And sometimes some posters will buddy up with a full-time troll and not be a part time troll. The full-time may have the same viewpoint as another poster but the poster who is not a troll uses bad judgement by aligning themselves with a troll. So to win an "debate" in a forum some do that but they really should not as that then makes them too closely associated with the true troll."
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"To clarify more what I mean by a full-time troll. Again, since some troll are friendly to the majority of the rest of the posters they are usually only a full-time troll with a few. But again, they are still insulting and attacking the many other posters who may have the same belief as those under attack. That way they can stay on the board as they are safer."
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"One major tactic some trolls do is falsify information of what another poster is stating. That way they can "force" that poster to reply to them. Trolls need attention. If the poster does not reply, the troll keeps spreading falsehoods thus making the poster look bad. And again the trolls are safe because most posters do not want the troll to come after them. And if one of those being attacks leave they will select another one. An endless cycle unless the board figures it out."
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You see PUSC, as you read the above, you may have felt like it sounded true on so many accounts.
Let me break it down to you.
First of all, why are you here on this particular board? You are not an immigrant, you are a US citizen, you have nobody in your family with an immigration case pending, or an immigration issue.
You know very little to nothing about immigration laws, or politics. You rarely express any opinion that doesn't concern forum dynamics between members. You are pasting articles that are supposed to reflect your opinions in some way, but that's not clear either.
You spend it seems a majority of your time on this board, day in and day out. Do you have any life at all of your own?

You see I am here for a few concrete reasons- I am an immigrant and the immigration topic concerns my life. And I am intersted in talking about politics, as I've always been interested in politics, and I am particularly interested in this presidential election.
You have nothing to offer here on this board PUSC, but you seem to think that having posted over 2000 articles on this board in between disputes with Beverly, Davdah, and myself, there is nothing left of any value.

A troll lives on a forum with the sole purpose of entertaining themselves, and creating reactions from other posters to satisfy themselves, or to fill their empty lives.
You first focused on Davdah, and S12, before Beverly came onto the scene. You interacted with them, and bashed them behind the scenes. Then aftersome time I realized you were a troll when you buddied up with Davdah and became friendly to him as a fellow republican. I was shocked to say the least.
This is when I decided to break away from your company behind the scenes.
Then came Beverly, and you had a feast playing with her, and created a buddy system with a few unaware posters such as Sprintgirl and Mike. I see other people like Mrs Bee, or RN, or NHF are resistant to the buddying up on me, and so is Houston. See how quickly you turned against me and found a poster to play your game with and then managed to turn your buddies against me. Trolling at its finest.
I only wonder what was going on behind the scenes, and what was said about me. I can tell a few things from the snippets naive Sprint girl leaked out on a few occasions.
Let me see, you called me a l.esbian (although I have a husband), am I correct? You said I was crazy, and stuff like that.
But to everybody else on the forum you said that I was smart, and you didn't really want to talk to me.
A hiding trolling tactic at its finest. Congrats PUSC.
But then knowing me, and how open and emotional I can be, you knew how to push my buttons and get the reaction you needed to satisfy your trolling.

My advise to you is to take a few weeks off of this board and re-examine your life and fill it with something meaningful.

With best wishes,
iperson

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Let me see, you called me a l.esbian (although I have a husband), am I correct?

I can let alot of stuff go, but not this one. There has never been a time when I have called you that!!!! Why would you come here and tell lies???? Trying to regain some lost allies???? That was really hitting below the belt.

As far a trolling, I am not the one who comes on here and attacks people. I believe that would be you - even going so far as calling Beverly a racial slur not once, but twice. I have been able to make peace with just about everyone excluding you and Beverly.

You know nothing about my family, but I do have some immigrated-related issues which brought me to this forum. You don't have to be an immigrant to join here. Furthermore, I have tried to assist many more posters here than you have. I am learning as I go and never profess to be an expert.

I wasn't go to answer to any of this carp but as you clearly want to try and cause trouble with name dropping and seeing if you can stir things up by more lies, I just want to say....

Get help:

http://www.bipolar.com/what_is_bipolar/what_is_bipolar.html

I disagree with bipolar. That would require the down side which hasn't manifested itself. What exists is aggression mixed with some paranoia and mild delusional overtures