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quote: Originally posted by davdah:
Total loser? I bet. Yet you decided to stay here instead of going back. Who supported those two kids and you? Was it the loser? You couldn't do it being illegal and all. Or, did you adopt someone else's identity and SSN so you could? I can see the need to be liberal now. Anything else would mean facing the truth.
Davdah, I stayed here because of the kids. Although I think the dude is a total loser, he is their father and they have their own relationship with him. We did race the kids together on a 50/50 basis. I had no need to adopt anyone elses identity, I am very proud of who I am.
"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
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quote: Originally posted by ProudUSC: quote: Originally posted by Brit4064: I think Obama picked Biden for the blue collar vote in the coal-belt States. Time will tell if the strategy will work. It's not guaranteed that Sarah Palin will pull in the ex-Hillary voters either. She's not exactly the average woman. Talk of wearing fur coats, pro-NRA etc. McSame may think he's pulled off a masterstroke but wait till the skeletons start coming out of the closet. We all know why Bush has suddenly decided to set a date to withdraw from Iraq. To help out his buddy McSame. Amazing U-turn from the man who said setting a date would embolden the enemy 
Biden was a terrible choice, Brittie! I was an Obama supporter until he picked him. I wish you guys would read up on him. He's shady.
Lmao.. I just imagined Proud in the evening by candlelight afraid of her own shadow. Scary... 
the "personal" is political
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I appreciate your efforts, Michael. Biden is only the VP and as such to be considered secondarily. I will not teach my kids to get all bogged down in their decision making because of the VP. All polititians in Washington have dirt on their hands in some way or another and one will have to make an educated decision. I am not a feminist, but I do like the idea that the first African-American will have a shot at the presidency. America had white men in that spot for over 200 years and I think it's about time for a change and I also think it will have a very positive effect on the world.
"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
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quote: Originally posted by davdah:
Afraid?, not. So you didn't get here on your own merets but because of your kids, nice. Since its been 23 years I would venture a guess many of those years were illegal years to boot.
I was always under the impression the parents are the ones who should support and guide the children. Not the other way around. But hey, I'm just an American. What do i know. And I don't have a picture of an acclaimed socialist giving a hitler salute for my icon. Thats just me.
No Davdah, you do not have a sophisticated avatar. You have DUMBO proclaiming to be a 3 Star General!
"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
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It takes Super-Duper Royal Male Lion, Sabuntium the Great, to come up with totally domineering, wonderful and brilliant avatar !!! All the rest must look up and learn from ME !!!
Have all the good s.ex you can, in all the ways you can, for as long as ever you can !
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quote: Originally posted by Sabuntium: Hehehe, whoever nominated Obama must have been a genius , what better way to guarantee an utter defeat of Democrats in November !!!!
Sen. Obama, right after he came onto the national stage and after his speech at the DNC in 2004, was very often approached by people and actually asked if he would consider to run for president. If you remember, when he announced that he would run for POTUS in Illinois, some 11000 people showed up to hear the message. When John McCain made his announcement there where 600 people listening.
"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
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quote: Originally posted by Kollerkrot: quote: Originally posted by Sabuntium: Hehehe, whoever nominated Obama must have been a genius , what better way to guarantee an utter defeat of Democrats in November !!!!
Sen. Obama, right after he came onto the national stage and after his speech at the DNC in 2004, was very often approached by people and actually asked if he would consider to run for president. If you remember, when he announced that he would run for POTUS in Illinois, some 11000 people showed up to hear the message. When John McCain made his announcement there where 600 people listening.
I don't care how many people attended POTUS. Any MTV Super-Star can bring million people to watch them on Stadium, does that make them good candidates to run the country? As I said, whoever nominated Obama must have been a genius (and I don't mean the herd that voted him in), for there is no better way to guarantee the Dems' devastating defeat come November 2008.
Have all the good s.ex you can, in all the ways you can, for as long as ever you can !
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quote: Originally posted by iperson: quote: Originally posted by ProudUSC: quote: Originally posted by Brit4064: I think Obama picked Biden for the blue collar vote in the coal-belt States. Time will tell if the strategy will work. It's not guaranteed that Sarah Palin will pull in the ex-Hillary voters either. She's not exactly the average woman. Talk of wearing fur coats, pro-NRA etc. McSame may think he's pulled off a masterstroke but wait till the skeletons start coming out of the closet. We all know why Bush has suddenly decided to set a date to withdraw from Iraq. To help out his buddy McSame. Amazing U-turn from the man who said setting a date would embolden the enemy
Biden was a terrible choice, Brittie! I was an Obama supporter until he picked him. I wish you guys would read up on him. He's shady.
Lmao.. I just imagined Proud in the evening by candlelight afraid of her own shadow. Scary...
You proved Jasmin's point, Iperson. You can't have an intelligent conversation without getting personal and throwing insults. |
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quote: Originally posted by Jasmin:
cnn poll yesterday and abc poll today shows obama 49% and mccain 48%. this is so shocking that obama should have more than 20% lead on poll over mccain after his "fabulous" speech at convention and on the day of martin luther king movement and after all the hot air in dem. convention. while mccain has the same rating in poll without even a convention...doesn't it say a much about candidates and who is stronger?
Gallup Daily: Obama Continues to Lead 49% to 41%August 30, 2008 Barack Obama leads John McCain 49% to 41%, continuing to ride a bounce from his party’s nominating convention. I don't go by the individual polls, but watch the national Gallup Poll as this is one drawn from a greater pool and the most accurate.
"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
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Gallop-shmallop... There are only two kinds of people on Earth: those who are idiots and those who are not. Watch this
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quote: Originally posted by Brit4064: I think Obama picked Biden for the blue collar vote in the coal-belt States. Time will tell if the strategy will work. It's not guaranteed that Sarah Palin will pull in the ex-Hillary voters either. She's not exactly the average woman. Talk of wearing fur coats, pro-NRA etc. McSame may think he's pulled off a masterstroke but wait till the skeletons start coming out of the closet. We all know why Bush has suddenly decided to set a date to withdraw from Iraq. To help out his buddy McSame. Amazing U-turn from the man who said setting a date would embolden the enemy
I agree with the reasoning why Obama picked Biden as well as to shore up the Democrat base; however I do disagree somewhat why Pulin was picked. It is not whether she will pull in ex Clinton supporters, but more likely the "soccer mom" votes. Most experts agree that the women and Latino votes will be major. Obama has gambled that the Latino vote would vote more Democratic than Republican because of the split within the Republican party on the issue. However, the same can be said with the women vote. Urban, young, and minority women will more than likely vote Democratic, but the problem is who will the suburban women vote for. If there is an even split, then Obama has the nomination because he would be able to get those highly valued vutes in suburban areas like Atlanta, DFW, Sacramento, Phoenix, Santa Fe, Houston, and other metropolitan areas. However, if the split leans more towards McCain, then this will be yet another tight race. As for troop withdrawal, I don't think it was for McCain. We all know Obama was dead set against the war prior to day one. In fact, he made a cornerstone of his campaign to get the troops home. So, Pres Bush pre-emptied Obama by signing the troop withdrawal. If Al Sadr cooperates and does not back away from the coalition government, then Obama cannot use his strongest argument against McCain. However, if Al Sadr does not cooperate during the electinos, or even if Obama is President, then it places the United States in a very precarious posiitino. If Obama continues to bring the troops home with the Iraqi government asking or begging for US help, it will be a repeat of 1975 Vietnam. Foreign policy will take a nose dive that is far more worse than the 2003 invasion. The EU, nor anyone else, will trust the US in a long term solution. Finally, after Biden's speech, having a woman as a VP puts Biden also in a interesting position. If Biden comes across as a bully in the debates, this will turn off many voters that the Democrats need and will be a repeat of the Bush Gore Debates. If Palin is an excellent debater, the the VP debates will be very interesting and probably favor Biden.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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quote: Originally posted by Jasmin:
Just 20 minutes ago ABC and CNN reported Obama 49% while Mccain 48%. Just 20 minutes ago.
That might be: but as I said Gallup Polls draw from a greater pool and are therefore more accurate.
"...even God fights stupidity to no avail"! - Friedrich Schiller
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quote: Originally posted by Kollerkrot:
Gallup Daily: Obama Continues to Lead 49% to 41%August 30, 2008
Barack Obama leads John McCain 49% to 41%, continuing to ride a bounce from his party’s nominating convention.
I don't go by the individual polls, but watch the national Gallup Poll as this is one drawn from a greater pool and the most accurate.
The only "poll" that counts is the one on Nov. 4th. However, one cannot get a true indication unless one takes the poll after the Republican convention. If McCain is able to convince the independent voters, then you would see a shift to his side. If McCain cannot reach to the independent voters, then the results would be similar. But then again, What If All Obama-McCain Polls Are Wrong?
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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quote: Originally posted by Kollerkrot: quote:
I appreciate your efforts, Michael. Biden is only the VP and as such to be considered secondarily. I will not teach my kids to get all bogged down in their decision
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