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Originally posted by davdah:
Knew that was coming. I was expecting it to come from Hudson but oh well. In addition it is also illegal to rent to illegals. That is who I am trying to exclude. Anyone have a problen with that?

There will be some additional burden placed on the applicant to show they are not illegal if I suspect they are.

If title V111 can have my appliances returned then feel free to throw it in my face. That or if you want you can give me the $2000.00 to replace what the illegal dirtball took. Didn't think so. So, again, NO SE RENTA

Davdah,
There is no federal law that prohibits illegals from renting nor owning property. If you cite title 8 § 1324 you might want to think again. This provision is about human trafficking although anti immigration, or immigratino reduction, sites such as VDARE and FAIRUS or NumbersUSA will cite an adaptation of the law as Title 8 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii)(b)(3). Nevertheless, these groups interpret the law the way they wanted it interpreted, not what Congress nor the courts have intented the law should be. In Texas, only a suburb called Farmers Branch passed such ordinance, but that ordinance, along with countless others are in Federal Court being challenged, as they should be.

Although there is no excuse for the individual to take property owned by the complex, but that is the risk you take in the apartment business. If you have qualms about renting to people, then you should not be renting to anyone.

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Originally posted by davdah:
RN, it is to prove a point. That, unlike you, I see what they do since I am affected by it. BFD, so I do own some stuff. Point is, it doesn't give a slime ball the right to wreck it. I know you think its wrong for anyone to have more than someone else. You beleive in wealth redistribution. Giving all away to the illegal, all but your own I'm sure.


BTW, I did own a kia not that many years ago. I do agree they are about the worst cars ever made (lol).

As for the slimeball, the docs he produced to the manager looked ok. Now that this happened I am requiring anyone who is obviously an ESL type to be further scrutinized. But this was to show they are not the angels some of you believe.

Seems to me someone does care what B. Gates makes. I didn't know he was doing that well. Thanks for keeping tabs RN. Something to shoot for.

Nor does it give you the right to do what you are doing by requiring additional information to those who do not speak English. This requirement is selective and prohibitive so that a certain segment of the population cannot reasonably, nor quantitatively, have the right to fair housing. It basically is a federal and stale law violation. You would do better if you raised the credit score up by 35%, but that would all but eliminate your potential clientele anyway. BTW, you kicked out the tenant because he was allegedly in a gang. Unless he did not pay rent or violated some other condition of the renters contract, you also violated the law based on your post.

You have taken incidents, from your ex wife to the traffic accident to the situation with the apartment complex and generalized that Mexicans, or more specifically, illegal Mexicans, are not human, are worthless, and not to be trusted.. Congratulation Davdah, you are using Eugenics to portray a group of people negatively based solely on individual incidents. You have created a double standard which you want one level to apply to a group of people that you do not see politically, ethnically, nor religiously while another lweer standard applies to the other group or acceptable group.

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Originally posted by 4now:
quote by Proud USC: Davdah - that's really grabbing at straws. Most people who are crossing the deserts are doing so out of desperation - so please don't blame people who are compassionate about human rights for their unfortunate deaths. That's ridiculous.[quote]


Well not according to Vincente Fox who on November 13, 2007 said this



Fox opposes the wall to separate the United States from Mexico.

"I love this nation. I don't understand this nation — building walls in front of your neighbor, your friend, your partner," he said.

When asked what Mexico can do to create jobs so its people won't feel the need to immigrate, he responded that Mexicans do have jobs.It's not that they don't have jobs in Mexico, but that they make more money here," he said


Mexicans pick produce, build homes and work in restaurants in the United States, he said.

"You get a good quality of life from these people working."


It has been stated over and over again by people that Mexican illegals cross the border out of desperation. More accurately the word is opportunity according to their former president

As George S Patton said, "fixed fortifications are a monument to man’s stupidity." This goes for the wall as well. Most of the communities along the Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona border have a symbiotic relationship; that is, how one side goes affects the other side. It is the reason why the wall will fail. It is not a permanent solution, nor a temporary one. The wall will divide communities that have been tied beyond the limits of time and space. The wall will create an atmosphere of mistrust and ambiance, particularly on the US side, but also on the Southern border too. And it will not stop the flow of illegal immigration because the wall fails to recognize the reasons why people are coming here in the first place. You may by cynical as to the reason or reasons, but they are real as the reasons why one will go or not go into business. Nor will violating the Posse Comitatus Act (placing troops on the border) will solve the problem either. To solve the problem, our southern neighbors as well as the U.S. must embrace the globalization trends that are now taking effect. Through cooperative effort of individuals, NGO's, IGO's, businesses and governments will the immigration problem only be solved for the United States and our neighbors.

Whknapp, deriving the idea from your previous “dialogue format” post, I also have this. Please take a look:

Son: (a 5-year old) Mom, last night I was watching a program on TV and they were talking about two people, one was psychotic and the other one was schizophrenic. What’s the difference between the two?

Mom: (a doctor) She thought: ‘Oh my god, how can I explain this to him that he could understand?’

Son: Are they OK, mom, say, just like… us?

Mom: Y-y-yes, I mean, n-n-no! They are OK, but they have some issues, small, err, big issues, like…

Son: What do you mean issues, Mom?

Mom: I mean, they’re kind of little different… they do not talk like you and me, for example… or t-t-think like you and me… t-t-they have some p-p-problems doing normal things… you know, and… or, they can’t easily eat breakfast like how we do now, or… oh my god…

Son: You mean to say they’re not well… or they’re not normal?

Mom: Y-y-yes, I mean, n-n-no!

Son: How do they think? Do they need help?

Mom: Suddenly she thought of something to explain the matter and end the inquiry, and blurted out: Yessss!

Son: Mom?

Mom: Most of the time, yes, they need some kind of help. And here’s how they think, son. The “psychotic” one builds an apartment in the air; the other one who is “schizophrenic” collects the rent!

Davdah and 4now, happy holidays! (Hohoho! Santa Claus is coming to town…)

Very clever, RN!

But I'm afraid it won't be easy to digest to the not-so-smart bigots we all know...

LMAO RN! Well done. Rolling on the floor laughing out loud!

Hudson, I should not comment since you always seem to have a problem with reading what people write before banging away on the keyboard. The dirtball was 2 months behind on the rent. It isn't too much to ask to verify status if a person is suspect of being illegal. I checked already. Since I am being held to the standard of being liable for renting to an illegal I have the 'responsibility' to verify status. Read the laws before saying anything. Before commenting on what any American general says don't write it in the same paragraph as your anti-American one world Gov. propaganda..


RN, why would any mother go through such hand wringing to explain something so simple? I know what you were trying to do but this is kind of lame. Like the one person clapping in a crowded Las Vegas act after a bad joke. Iperson, that one person. Simple things for simple minds, glad to see you back.

turn up your volume

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RN, since you were having difficulty with this let me help.

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schizophrenic

Is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a mental illness characterized by impairments in the perception or expression of reality. So a 5 yr old can understand it,..they don't see things correctly.

A good example would be people who believe illegals mean us no harm and they just want to cut our grass and build our homes. They refuse to see the flag burning or violent protests.

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A good example would be people who believe illegals mean us no harm and they just want to cut our grass and build our homes. They refuse to see the flag burning or violent protests.

The majority of them mean us no harm and are not violent criminals! What is wrong with you people? Why do you think it's okay to continue spreading words of hatred on this forum? It's Christmas time, for crying out loud. Give us a break!

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Originally posted by whknapp:
Very clever, RN!

But I'm afraid it won't be easy to digest to the not-so-smart bigots we all know...

You're the clever one, whknapp. Can you see? you're again 100% right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, EL! Let's love and forgive one another. You see, I tried with a well-intentioned thread (Love never fails...), but it was hijacked and I received slings of mud by doing that in return!

The majority don't? What do they mean us then?

RN, oh please. Come up with something better than this to convince me of your intellect. Show me something of substance to convince me that what I see is wrong. I'm still waiting for that. I really would like to believe what you guys say is true. If it were I wouldn't have to worry about the future of this country for the benefit of my children.

Davdah, you are speaking from a very slanted viewpoint. The United States is larger than the state of California. The majority of Hispanics where I live are hard-working, law abiding people. Since they're not wearing signs that say "Illegal Alien", I can't tell the illegal from the legals ones. To tell you the truth, I prefer it that way.

That is part of the problem. You don't want to know. You should make it a point to find out who is who. What they do and why they do it.

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Originally posted by davdah:
The majority don't? What do they mean us then?

RN, oh please. Come up with something better than this to convince me of your intellect. Show me something of substance to convince me that what I see is wrong. I'm still waiting for that. I really would like to believe what you guys say is true. If it were I wouldn't have to worry about the future of this country for the benefit of my children.

I tried in the other thread to engage you in a decent discourse. How did you respond? Your favorite refrain: choke me with foreign flags! and that Saudi girl.

Never, never, never, have I entertained this flag issue on this forum. For to me that's just a fodder for debate. I don't endorse it, nor support it, I reject it, but I think that's a minor issue compared to what I'm so against amid the current mess: the drug traffickers, hardened criminals, and terrorists. I must have gone thru a lot already in my young life that I tend to look past these "harmless things." Flag, flag, flag, I don't think it can blast a tower, or water source, or nuclear plant, or bridges, etc. except perhaps to nudge or wound the "feelings of girlie men."

The Saudi lady. She was violated in a very closed society. What had happened is a violation not just of a human person, but of all human species, and all of humankind. It's a dastardly act indeed. I feel sorry that it was publicized the world over. Almost the same crimes happen in other Muslim countries like Bangladesh, Pakistan, India, etc., but because Saudi Arabia is Saudi Arabia, it's got to be big. But to cite it here, in a very, very irrelevant manner as it was, to me, is defeatist for a man to do it, and totally InCOhEreNt!

Another good one RN- feelings of girlie men. LMAO!

A few Mexican flags were waved in May 2006 and he's still about flags. LOL!
I mean move on girlie man, you're like S12's broken record.
I don't see any more flag waving or burning. It's all in your tiny little brain Davdah.
ROTFL

Those 'flag' things happen all the time. Any time there are organized protests or even on July 4 every year throughout southern California.

The flag issue may seem trivial on its face. Its just a piece of cloth right? Its much more than that. It represents loyalty, allegiance, and devotion. If you were to desecrate a Mexican flag during one of their protests what do you think would happen to you? How about you Iperson? Do you think they would show you any mercy? You don't think you would be minus some teeth, blood, or perhaps virtue? If its just a piece of cloth no big deal right? Simply put, its not the flag itself, its what it represents.

Why did I bring up the Saudi incident? It was for precisely the reason you just stated again. "You felt sorry that it was publicized the world over" WHY!? It should be exposed. We should make it a point to show the pictures of her after the rape. After the beating she got for being raped. Maybe then the reality of it will sink in. The absolute abomination of that society. An example of how we need to understand the rest of the world isn't so civilized. What they are really like. If you have lived a decent life showing respect for people it may be hard to imagine people who don't They exist, in droves. From small things like the crooked cops in TJ to kings of middle eastern countries. Its just a matter to what extent they can carry out their wishes based on their position.

Did I miiss something here??
Who's talking about burning flags??
There are a few extemists who burn flags (of all country origins) as a sign of protest and anger against that particular government. It happens on occasion and usually makes the headlines of some photojournalist's expose'. I don't think anyone on this forum, but I can't speak for all, are in favor of burning flags. Give it up son.