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'You Don't Speak for Me,' Legal Hispanic Immigrants Shout
By Alison Espach
CNSNews.com Correspondent
July 20, 2006

(CNSNews.com) - A group of American Hispanics -- legal residents of the U.S. -- are blasting efforts to convert illegal immigrants into "guest workers," arguing that their own pursuit of the American dream is being impeded by the influx of illegal aliens.

"We are American citizens, we're voters. We elect our officials in office right now. Our voices need to be heard, not those of illegal aliens and their well-funded advocates," said Mariann Davies, vice-chairman of the group You Don't Speak For Me (YDSFM). Davies is the daughter of legal immigrants from Ecuador.

Davies told Cybercast News Service that YDSFM has attracted about a thousand members since it was launched earlier this year and represents the majority of Americans and American Hispanics against illegal alien rights.

YDSFM was formed by Col. Al Rodriguez in response to this year's media coverage of Latino and Hispanic "pro-immigration" rallies -- a phrase that Rodriguez said his group resents. YDSFM was angry that the rallies were portrayed as representing the position of all Latinos and Hispanics in the U.S.

In a statement on the YDSFM website, Davies indicated that she first noticed the problems in immigration control when she worked as a college volunteer during the implementation of the Immigration and Control Act of 1986. That law provided legal status to 3.1 million people who had come to the United States illegally.


"I witnessed chaotic and inconsistent paperwork for people with no documentation. It was a mess, and we now know that much of the information provided by illegal immigrants was fraudulent," Davies said.

"We also know that terrorists were also granted amnesty under the 1986 program, something that should shock and anger all Americans. We also know that all 19 hijackers from September 11 took advantage of our legal system, staying here on expired or fraudulent visas to wage their war of terror," she added.

Davies said she is outraged by more recent problems linked to the illegal immigration problem, such as the "84 hospitals that have closed emergency rooms in California" because of excessive illegal alien use and "the massive amount of public dollars that have been spent educating illegal alien students and children of illegal aliens."

According to a Federation of American Immigration Reform (FAIR) report, the "utilization rate of hospitals and clinics by illegal aliens (29 percent) is more than twice the rate of the overall U.S. population (11 percent).

"How about social services programs that are meant for our own most vulnerable citizens?" Davies asked. "How about school districts that are overrun and having to have bilingual education and thousands and thousands of non-English speaking students who are taking resources away from the rest of the students?"

Davies said many school districts are forced to eliminate programs in arts and music "because they have so many non-English speaking illegal alien children that they have to spend the money on special services and teachers and social workers for them."

The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) -- an advocacy group for Latino rights -- said YDSFM's point is not the one shared by most Hispanics and Latinos.

"The majority of Latinos do support comprehensive immigration reform," said Michele Waslin from NCLR.

Waslin favors President Bush's "guest worker" provision, which would provide many current undocumented immigrants new legal channels for working in the U.S. and an eventual path to citizenship. The U.S. Senate's version of immigration reform includes the "guest worker" provision, but the bill passed by the U.S. House does not. The House bill also calls for a fence along the U.S. border, a crackdown on alien smuggling rings and those who illegally enter the U.S. It would establish a system for employers to verify the legal status of the people they hire as well.

According to a Pew Hispanic immigration study this month, 56 percent of American Hispanics said that they would participate in a pro-immigration rally; 52 percent favored a policy that provided a path to citizenship for undocumented migrant workers; 41 percent said they thought some undocumented workers should be eligible for citizenship and only 5 percent said all undocumented immigrants should be blocked from citizenship

But Davies argued that the Senate legislation would reward illegal aliens with "amnesty" and is "not a solution to what is happening in this country."

"It is completely unfair to every single immigrant who has played by the rules, including those who have pending applications and have been waiting outside of this country for years," said Davies.

YDSFM also criticized President Bush for his approval of the bill that would allow millions of illegal aliens to remain in the country.

"The president tries to justify this, saying they are going to have to wait 11 years to go through the process," said Ira Mehlman, spokesperson for YDSFM and FAIR. "That, he says, is going to the back of the line.

"But for the people who broke the law, the back of the line forms here in this country; whereas people who have been playing by the rules, the back of the line is in some other country," he added.

State governments have stepped up their immigration enforcement, passing 57 bills this year that cut benefits for illegal immigrants and place sanctions on employers who hire them. For example:

- Georgia lawmakers passed a bill that sanctions employers who hire illegals and forces people seeking benefits to provide proof of their U.S. citizenship. The bill also mandates that police check the legal status of those they arrest;
- Colorado employers must now show that recent hires are of legal status. Colorado also banned non-emergency services to illegals;
- Louisiana's new legislation allows any state agency to investigate an employer's hiring practices if it is suspected that illegals are being hired. All employers who do not cooperate can be fined.

If more similar legislation is passed and enforced, Mehlman claims "the supply of jobs will dry up [for illegals], fewer people will come, and in fact, many people will get discouraged and decide to leave."

"That's the way you enforce laws. You make an example out of enough employers and everyone starts to get the message," added Mehlman.

But Waslin's group stated that legislation focusing on border enforcement is useless. "We have seen enforcement-only approaches for the past 20 years and they obviously have not worked," said Waslin.

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The "New Americans?"

Source: the state

Another arrested in prostitution case

Federal authorities have arrested another person in connection with the forced prostitution of a 14-year-old Mexican girl and have indicted three others.

Rafael Hernandez-Gonza*** was indicted Wednesday, court documents said. He is charged with eluding examination and inspection by immigration officials.

Jesus Perez-Laguna, Guadalupe Reyes-Rivera and Ciro Bustos-Rosales were indicted Wednesday on six counts that include immigration and prostitution offenses.

Reyes-Rivera is a fugitive. Anyone with information about her should call the FBI at (803) 551-4200 or Immigration and Customs Enforcement at (803) 765-5430.

Can you feel it? How these scumbags strengthen the very fabric of America? I think we can all agree that prostituting a fourteen year old girl certainly qualifies as 'plucky!' I thank god daily that our president has stuck to his guns and made certain that the necessary conditions required for this underage girl to be bought and sold remained unchanged!

Thank you Mr. President! Thank you for keeping America safe for those who would import underage *** slaves! Thank you sir!

A reminder...

The U.S. Government estimates 18,000 to 20,000 victims are trafficked to the United States annually. These victims are typically forced, coerced or lured through fraud into slavery-like conditions.

Feel the pride, the American pride as we usher in the new era of slavery!

Can you feel it?

Technorati Tags: illegal immigration, slavery, *** slaves, american pride,

posted by jakejacobsen @ 4:56 PM Comments | Trackback Trackback

Homeland Security?

Source: reuters

Meh, not so's you'd notice...

US cops grab 9 illegal workers at military base

SAN DIEGO (Reuters) - U.S. police arrested nine illegal immigrants working for a contractor at a California military base on Thursday, in an operation underscoring a threat to national security from fake identity documents, authorities said. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in San Diego said the employees worked for a contractor at Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, and had used fake permanent residency cards obtained on a thriving black market in the city to gain work.

And how many of our "cheerful invaders" have been pinched working at military bases?

The operation was the latest in an ongoing sweep by ICE that has discovered more than 850 undocumented workers using fake identity cards to work at sensitive military bases and airports in San Diego County.

As I've said before, you can talk to me about the war on terrah when we pretend to give a rat's *** about security here. Until then what we have is a group of folks running around cutting off heads and what not, and our gub'mint with its thumb up its ***!

A reminder...

Items have been found by law enforcement officials along the banks of the Rio Grande River and inland that indicate possible ties to a terrorist organization or member of military units of Mexico.106 A jacket with patches from countries where al Qa’ida is known to operate was found in Jim Hogg County, Texas by the Border Patrol. The patches on the jacket show an Arabic military badge with one depicting an airplane flying over a building and heading towards a tower, and another showing an image of a lion’s head with wings and a parachute emanating from the animal. The bottom of one patch read “martyr,” “way to eternal life” or “way to immortality.”107

Aguilar Zinser, reported, that “Spanish and Islamic terrorist groups are using Mexico as a refuge.”114

Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Robert Mueller has confirmed in testimony “that there are individuals from countries with known al-Qa’ida connections who are changing their Islamic surnames to Hispanic-sounding names and obtaining false Hispanic identities, learning to speak Spanish and pretending to be Hispanic immigrants.115

Security? I think not! Gardeners and busboys folks, until they're not!

Technorati Tags: illegal immigration, terrorism, mexico, homeland security

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Free Speech For Me, Not For Thee!

Source: lsj.com

Such tolerance, such diversity...so long as it agrees with them...

Four arrested at Minutemen co-founder's speech

EAST LANSING -- Just before Minutemen co-founder Chris Simcox began his speech this evening at MSU, more than 100 protesters were gathered in front of Conrad Hall under a banner that read, "No human being is illegal." Later, about 7:45 p.m., four protesters were arrested when they refused to let the speech go forward. Student activist Jose Villagran said the group had come to "visibly protest someone who promotes terrorism against our people." "Human life is more important than racist laws," Villagran said in a speech to the protesters. The Minutemen are an anti-illegal immigration group and serve as self-appointed guardians of the border with Mexico.

"Our people?" Why, whatever could he mean? Presumably he's an American, right?

So if he means something else by "our people" that would make him a what? If you were thinking RACIST you win a "I can't possibly be racist: I'M BROWN *****!!!" kewpie doll. And when you pull the string it regurgitates such classics as "we didn't cross the border, the border crossed us!" and the perennial favorite "This IS Mexico!" (brown beret sold separately)


As a limited time offer when you buy the "I can't possibly be racist: I'M BROWN *****" kewpie doll we will throw in these delightful "Tan Klan" hand puppets for free! Order now, supplies are limited!

H/T immigration news daily

Technorati Tags: the minutemen, illegal immigration, chris simcox, michigan, east lansing, msu, socialist retards, bite me fools, jackasses, racists, the tan klan, reconquista, mexico,

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All Governments: We Buy Stupid By The Trainload!

Source: news.com.au

Recently the mayor of Nagasaki, Japan was assassinated by a local gangleader. The Japanese gub'mints response?

Underworld gangs are linked to most gun violence here, including the death of mayor Iccho Ito, who was attacked by a gang member on Tuesday in the southern Japanese city as he campaigned for re-election this weekend. …

“We want to call on all ministries and agencies concerned to take proactive gun-control measures,” Mr Shiozaki, the top spokesman for Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, said. …

Japan already strictly controls guns, with only police and licensed hunters and some sportsmen allowed to own firearms.

I was going to snark on Japan in the title, then realized it would be unfair to single them out as if this were somehow unique. Nope, as far as I can tell it is the default position of all gub'mints to truck in vast amounts of high quality, family sized stupid!


Hitler Kitty sez: I smell a pogram, a gub'mint pogram!


H/T The ***** Girls via Ace

Technorati Tags: japan, gun control, teh stupid, government, hitler kitty

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Asian Commenter: Respect Us Or We'll Come Out Shooting!

Source: New York Times Blog

I understand why the the student turned into a gunman. I knew that something like this was going to happen, and this may be the beginning, unless Americans become more respectful to non-white people (both verbal and nonverbal). Racism is constant, mostly nonverbal. I came from a similar background, although not exactly the same. During the junior high school, I was one of the few Asians at the school. Many students are racists and people called me many names. I also spoke constantly about killing people. I started lifting weights, and at the end of that year, I was the strongest in my school. I played with lots of bb guns and paintball guns. I started playing various sports (fball, wrestling, etc). My parents were also poor. Many immigrants either join gangs or some people play sports to release their anger. Fortunately, I was able to overcome the environmental factors, became very popular in high school, and overcame the adversity. It is a special challenge for immigrants and non-caucasians in America. I have an incredibly strong will power and through the help of God, I overcame adversities and constant racism. Now, I am very successful. Many people will not overcome racial adversities and this shooting could just be the beginning… My advice to all Americans:
1. Be respectful to all people (both verbal and nonverbal), all the time.
2. I don’t understand the gunlaw(biggest problem)
3. American media is full of junk (violence(WWF), ***(OC), drugs, and violent music. Get rid of them, now.
4. Understand that many people from other countries that have poor english accents are better educated than many americans here, with masters and PhDs. Be respectful to people in all places, but most Americans will never know what it feels like to be non-white, because white people are nice to white people.
5. The gunman had personal problems, but it is the media, and the americans that influenced the gunman. Again, the gunlaw is also incomprehensible.

What the hell, let's just state the obvious here. Kids will always be ****s to kids who are different. The only way to change that would be to eliminate children. Does our deluded commenter here really think a white child would fare much differently in a non-white society?

You know, MJ and I used to go to Chinatown here in Chicago, we were treated poorly because we were white. Should we go down there and threaten them with violence for treating us poorly and with suspicion? Or is it okay because MJ and I are white?

Because to state the obvious corollary to his statement that "most Americans will never know what it feels like to be non-white, because white people are nice to white people," would be that of course "brown people are nice to brown people." Duh!

Just take minute and really absorb what he's saying. We need to change things in America to make it more comfortable for immigrants. Ummm, no, last time I checked it was immigrants that needed to bend. If you really don't like the culture you sire are the luckiest of men.

Because you can get the hell out!

Respect us or we'll start shooting! Sounds like the perfect "multi-cultural" slogan, no?

H/T Knickerbocker blog via Vdare

Technorati Tags: asian, immigration, gunman, racism, bite me, race war

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The Rise of Hate Ham Crime

Source: The Sun Journal (H/T Hot Air)


One student has been suspended and more disciplinary action could follow a possible hate crime at Lewiston Middle School, Superintendent Leon Levesque said Wednesday.

On April 11, a white student placed a ham steak in a bag on a lunch table where Somali students were eating. Muslims consider pork unclean and offensive.

*SNIP*

The school incident is being treated seriously as "a hate incident," Levesque said. Lewiston police are investigating, and the Center for the Prevention of Hate Violence is working with the school to create a response plan.
A hate crime? Doesn't there have to be an underlying crime before we can leap to "hate crime" status?

Well, thank God the CPHV is on the case whipping up a "response plan." Although, judging by their name, they are there to prevent VIOLENCE, and the last time I checked, having "placed a ham steak...on a lunch table" doesn't qualify.

But let's not forget the fact that the student with the porkalicious gift was white. The reporter made sure to include that little tidbit.

Why does that matter, I ask? If the act was perpetrated to offend someone based on their religion, why on earth do we need to know the race of the kid who did it?

According to one of the students at the lunch table...


He began to think white students didn't like him, and the act was their way of letting him know.
Well, that's apples and oranges, isn't it folks? Apples and oranges.

Technorati Tags: Muslim, Somali, Hate Crime, Racism, White, Ham

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100% Preventable Follow Up!

In the latest Blogs For Borders Video Blogburst we told the story of Isidro Pena Soto. Illegal alien scumbag who after repeated violations of the law and a deportation hold killed Kent Boone, a father of five. Now the family is looking for answers and there hard to come by as weak, foolish politicians who allowed Senor Soto free reign to ramp up to this crime hide under their desks, knees knocking...

A convicted felon and drunk driver in Solano County was supposed to be deported in 2005. Two years later, that illegal immigrant faces murder charges, and the victim’s family can’t get answers.

“Nobody wants to accept responsibility. None. There’s questions that can be answered and nobody wants to answer it,” said April Godin outside a Fairfield courtroom Wednesday, minutes after Isidro Pena Soto, 26, pleaded not guilty to charges of second degree murder, felony drunk driving and possession of methamphetamine.

Pena Soto is charged with killing Kent Boone, 33, in a head-on crash on Highway 12 between Rio Vista and Fairfield March 31. The CHP said he has four prior DUI convictions, is an illegal immigrant, and had two pounds of methamphetamine in his SUV. Investigators estimate Pena Soto was traveling 90 miles per hour at the time of the crash.

A News10 investigation showed in April 2005, Pena Soto pleaded no contest to felony drug possession and misdemeanor DUI. He was only sentenced to 122 days in Solano County jail. As an illegal immigrant with a felony conviction, court documents show he had an immigration hold, meaning he faced deportation after serving his sentence.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, however, told News10 they have no record of being contacted about Pena Soto in 2005 or any other time prior to his latest arrest.

Godin is the mother of two of Boone’s children from an earlier relationship. She attended Pena Soto’s arraignment with Boone’s current wife, Regina Sorioso, and other family members, including Sorioso’s two children. Many of them had heart-shaped lockets around their necks, which Sorioso said contained a pinch of Boone’s ashes……

H/T immigration watchdog

Technorati Tags: 100% preventable, illegal immigration, criminal aliens, scumbag, kent boone, isidro pena soto, drunk driving

posted by jakejacobsen @ 12:32 PM Comments (2) | Trackback Trackback

Why Not Believe Them?

Oklahoma recently passed one of the toughest pieces of legislation dealing with illegal immigration. The comments beneath this article are an interesting and instructive snapshot of the current debate over illegal immigration...

Let's start with the pro-illegal side...

57. 4/18/2007 2:49:18 PM, George Washington,
It was once illegal for women to vote. it was illegal for Blacks to be free. It was illegal to help a runaway save. It was illegal for Blacks to marry a White. It was illegal for Blacks to learn to read and write. It was illegal for a Black to testify against a White. It was illegal for Blacks to own property. It was legal for a husband to rape his wife. Illegal is a social construct. No human being is illegal. Immigration policies have been embede with racism. Europeans had easy passage the US.

48. 4/18/2007 1:26:02 PM, chris,
A guy 60 years ago (hitler) used the "laws on the books" to kill 6 million jews. We had slaves in this country for 200 years because of "laws on the books". We conquered and massacred natives indians in this country because of "laws on the books". There are genocides all over the world because of "laws on the books".

I hear that illegal immigrants are criminals because they broke the law. How many of you break the law every day driving on freeways over the speed limit. Are you criminals because you break the law? Of course not.

Laws can be bad or unrealistic. Making criminals out of people that came here for a better life and are hard working individuals is not fair. It is just a screwed up law!

49. 4/18/2007 1:52:07 PM, JESSICA,
I agree with the above poster..not only Hitler, but Saddam Husseim..!! he killed thousand of "invaders"..!!

Besides, deporting million of people is a crime, and it is GENOCIDE, even if they don't kill a single person. As per the new Genocide Law, massive deportations are also a crime, just take a look at Dandurf and Kosovo..1.5 million people deported, and the U.N. had to stop it. Just imagine the USA deporting 20 million..is a horrendous crime.!!

And thanks to the State of Arkansas, they did not approve the Immigration law, similar to the Oklahoma law. Oklahoma is the only retarded state in the region!! Good luck!!

42. 4/18/2007 11:54:29 AM, Aztec Poet,
Racists always try to deflect their racism by yelling "they are playing the race card." Strange irony. This bill is racism at its ugliest. In 100 years, people will hang in shame that grandma and grandpa were so blind to their xenophobic fears. STOP THE HATE!

Now to the anti-illegal immigration side...

67. 4/19/2007 9:51:28 AM, adrock, Los Angeles
GOOD WORK OKLAHOMA! Illegal aliens need to go back to where they came from. Always *****ing that America owes them better treatment. The government they ran away from owes them better treatment...America owes them nothing!

I can't help but laugh at all you clowns defending illegals. Most of you won't realize what's really happening here until it's too late. Just wait until they come to your neighborhood and start pushing you around in your own town. 10 years ago, nobody out here in LA thought illegals were a problem, and today they own the place. Why don't all of you sympathizers move your families out to east LA if want to experience the future of America because this is what you're ultimately fighting for.

And for all you people crying about racism...buckle up. When Latinos take over you'll see racism that you didn't believe possible and it will all be directed at your white, english-speaking ***. Unlike most of you, I live amongst Latinos and they are the most racist culture I have ever come across.

Disagree if you like, but DO NOT forget my warning: Illegal immigrants will be the death knell of America. You people are trying to be friends with people who don't want your friendship, and unless you stop this invasion, you'll see America dissolve into a third world sewer. And when that happens, just remember that you were one of the morons who fought for that outcome.

68. 4/19/2007 1:27:06 PM, kevin,
I couldnt agree more with adrock. I also lived in southern california when latinos were much fewer in numbers, and everyone defended their presence and hard work, but now that they are the majority there, things are much different. They arent the quiet, mind their own business folk who are just hoping to make it here in America (illegally), they are now banding together (remember May 1 2006?) and demanding things they are in no way owed! They now are arrogant in public and will openly argue with you that this (USA) is Mexico!! They have effectively ruined a once prestigious California school system by requiring so many resources go to ESL programs and performing poorly on exams. All this, on top of vicious gangs, smuggling rings, and an extremely anti American attitude, its a wonder more states arent jumping to take the same action as Oklahoma! If youre too ignorant to listen to people like me, who have experienced this, then you have no one to blame but yourself when America is destroyed. Hooray for Oklahoma making a very wise decision.

When you have eyewitnesses why not believe them? You should read through them all, like I said, interesting and instructive, a true snapshot of the current debate, of course only one side is interested in debating, while the other is quite fond of calling names.

This made me laugh...

Maybe they shouldn't have come illegally.. I know that isn't right but you can't help who you fall in love with and asking someone their legal status before you begin a relationship is ludacris.

H/T Vdare

Technorati Tags: illegal immigration, oklahoma, racism, communists,

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Bill Richardson: Gonza*** Is The Man Cuz' He's Tan!

Source: the hill

Just in case you had any doubt that (Your Future President!) Bill Richardson was a racist clown, he's nice enough to remove any doubt...

Presidential candidate and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D) said Monday the reason he has not called for the removal of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales is that the two both have Hispanic backgrounds.

Richardson, in an interview with The Hill, said he is "pretty close" to making such a call, but added that he is reluctant to do so before Gonzales's Senate testimony despite the high-profile involvement of New Mexico in the U.S. attorneys scandal.

[Richardson says] "The only reason I'm not there is because he's Hispanic, and I know him and like him... It's because he's Hispanic. I'm honest... I want to give him the benefit of the doubt."

Let's play a little game. Imagine if I was a politician and a fellow politician who was white had gotten himself into trouble and I went on record saying: I'm honest, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt because he's white.

How long would my head remain attached to my body? The double standard is truly mind blowing.

Previous coverage on this jackass:

Bill Richardson: Race Pandering *****

So Close...

Pro-Illegal Crowd Continues to Hijack Civil Rights Movement

Bill Richardson: Loves ****...?

Bill Richardson: Governor Of Chihuahua?

A Hispanic President?

H/T Lonewacko

Technorati Tags: bill richardson, hispanic, alberto gonza***, the tan klan, reconquista,

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Sharia Now!

Source: sunjournal

LEWISTON - One student has been suspended and more disciplinary action could follow a possible hate crime at Lewiston Middle School, Superintendent Leon Levesque said Wednesday.

On April 11, a white student placed a ham steak in a bag on a lunch table where Somali students were eating. Muslims consider pork unclean and offensive.

The act reminded students of a man who threw a pig’s head into a Lewiston mosque last summer.

The school incident is being treated seriously as “a hate incident,” Levesque said. Lewiston police are investigating, and the Center for the Prevention of Hate Violence is working with the school to create a response plan.

Should students be punished for this? Of course! Should the freaking police be involved? Only if Islam is the state religion.

Oh, it is? never mind!

H/T Hot Air

Technorati Tags: sharia law, islam, state religion, somali, jihad,

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Thursday, April 19, 2007
Why Not Believe Them?

Found in comments at the Indymedia thread on Hold Their Feet To The Fire...

by Anglo Hater

We are going to swallow Anglo America. We are going to take control and do whatever we want and you can't stop us. We don't care about your democracy or plymouth rock or your laws or your mythical border or your constitution or 'voter rights'-- all that means nothing because we are going to retake what you stole from us and restore Mexico here from the ground up. It's inevitable. You can't stop us. It's not possible. We love the joy of babies and our children too much. Hah hah--and you actually voted for George Bush too! You fools! He's going to make it happen because he fears us! We are laughing at you! You have already lost. Start learning Spanish. HAH HAH! Good morning Aztlan!

All I can say is: Please -- Please -- Please keep talking like this!

Americans just love hearing how they'll be thrown out of their country.

Technorati Tags: illegal immigration, aztlan, reconquista, hold their feet to the fire, washington dc,

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Countdown To DC!

In just two days MJ and I will be hopping a jet to our nations capital. On Sunday we will join with hundreds/thousands of our fellow Americans to say "Hell No!" to the current amnesty debacle at the Hold Their Feet To The Fire rally sponsored by the Dusty Inman Society and a whole host of other organizations like ALIPAC, FAIR and many, many more.

Then, starting on Monday and lasting through Wednesday we along with several other bloggers, radio hosts and some big names in the anti-illegal immigration movement will be lobbying congress in an attempt to stop this amnesty.

Here is the roll call of fellow bloggers...

Diggers Realm Blog

Stop The Invasion

Tony Dolz Blog

Chapel Hill Blog

ALIPAC (not really bloggers but we love them anyway!)

Save Our State Blog (not really bloggers but we love them anyway!)

You can find a list of the participating radio hosts...here.

This just in from Dusty Inman's joint. Keep it under your hat, but this is good news! (let's just say it involves some of that stinky -- dirty hippie action! And if we're very, very good maybe a little of this...


A boy can hope anyway!


We will have lot of daily updates from DC with pictures and videos all over the place!

And if you suddenly find yourself with hot -- sweaty handfuls of greenbacks you know where the tip jar is located.

If you're going let us know so we can meet up in our nations capital!

Technorati Tags: hold their feet to the fire, alipac, federation for american immigration reform, illegal immigration, lobbying,

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Those Wacky Savages!

Source: aafaq

The word comes down: DON'T ask Allah for mercy on the slain Vtech students...

Debate on Virginia Tech Muslim Students' Association Mailing List Concerning Permissibility of Praying for Mercy for Non-Muslim Victims

The liberal Arabic-language website Aafaq reports that a Muslim student set off a debate when she sent an email to the mailing list of the Muslim Students' Association at Virginia Tech asking the students to pray that Allah have mercy on those killed and wounded in the shooting attack at the university.

According to Aafaq, the dean of student affairs at American International University, Abu Hamza Hijji, responded, writing that Allah the Most Merciful forbids praying for mercy for the non-Muslim dead, or even for the non-Muslim living, and that it is only permitted to pray that they be rightly guided. He added that what happened was a sad occurrence, but that does not give Muslims the right to transgress the laws of Allah the Most Merciful.

Aafaq reported that a student named Chris, a recent convert, did not agree, and wrote that he usually does not intervene in this kind of discussion, but that this time he had to say "no." He added that his German teacher, who was wounded in the shooting, is a good man, and that he was praying that he would not die. He said that he would pray for him and for his family, whether they are Muslims or not, and would pray for all those who suffered from this calamity. He expressed the view that religion must bring people together, and not drive them apart, and that the brotherhood of humanity takes precedence over brotherhood of religion or of state.

According to Aafaq, Hijji answered Chris, saying that there is no problem with praying that non-Muslims be kept safe and not be killed, if there is hope that they might be guided [to the right path] [DS: conversion to Islam]; but one cannot pray for the non-Muslim dead, since there is no chance of their being guided. He said that the Prophet Muhammad had told the Muslim soldiers at the battle of Badr to not kill some of the nonbelievers, even though they were on the battlefield, as they had treated Muhammad well when he was in Mecca.

Hijji wrote that the students should ask Allah to save Chris' teacher (i.e. the German teacher) from death and turn his heart to the truth. But he said at the same time that the Prophet did not pray for forgiveness for the non-Muslims, and in particular did not ask Allah to have mercy on them, even those whom the Prophet had wanted to be guided when they were alive. Once they died, the Prophet was not permitted to ask for mercy for them. Hijji added that the Prophet behaved this way on Allah's instructions.

Hijji wrote that the relative importance of brotherhood in humanity or religion needs to be evaluated according to Allah's laws, and not according to human reason. He added that he might seem to be a hard-hearted person, but that this is what people throughout the generations said about the prophets and messengers who came with God's message to guide others to the truth.

The only good news, and it's not a lot...

According to Aafaq, some students expressed their uneasiness with the discussion and asked to be taken off the mailing list, while others tried to justify the seemingly difficult matter.

Gosh, may we import more please?


Judgement Bunny is not amused!


H/T Debbie Schussel

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Tom Tancredo: One Trick Pony?

By James Kotthoff

I have been researching Tom Tancredo for awhile. He has gotten a reputation in the MSM as a one trick pony, that trick being illegal immigration. That is amazing to me that any reasonable person would honestly say he is a “one trick pony” since he has been in congress since 1998. You don’t get re-elected if you only have one trick, Just ask Bush the senior. I want to look at his stand on some major issues. We will start with his position on the major issues of today.

Illegal immigration: He has a clear vision of what he believes and this has been constant throughout his career. He believes in not rewarding lawbreakers and most importantly to me he believes in self deportation. Anyone who does not think that self deportation is a viable option needs to look more closely at reality. If you enforce the current laws against employers, sanctuary cities and social service agencies you remove any incentive for illegal aliens to stay. A vast majority would self deport and the rest could easily be rounded up and deported. The common myth that you can’t deport 12- 20 million people is just that a myth.

Legal Immigration: He supports a cap on legal immigration in the amount of 250,000 a year, Not the 1,000,000+ a year that legally immigrate here. Even unlimited legal immigration is harmful to this country. Even discounting the cultural damage and the damage to our infrastructure, he fact remains that our resources cannot support that many people.

Defense/ National Security: He has a common sense approach to the Iraq war. One that is neither a cut and run view nor a stay the course view. He advocates a strategy of a rapid response force to deal with Al Qaeda and other terrorist issues, While assisting the region to find it’s own balance of power. On the national security front the advocates secure borders. Overall a solid strategy, Iraq must decide what course they will travel.

Education: He supports parental control over the education of their children, not government control. He advocates school vouchers and school choice. A parent should be the one who decides on what is the best educational path for their child.

Social Security: He supports partial privatization of social security for younger workers. To me this makes sense, you relieve some of the pressure on the system while still honoring the governments obligations to older workers and retirees. This is a compromise that takes a flawed system and makes it workable. As those who need the system die you can gradually phase out the social security system as it exists. And replace it with a system that puts more responsibility for retirement in the hands of the individual.

Taxes: He supports either a flat tax or a national sales tax in place of the current federal income tax. I see pluses and minuses to both systems. I prefer the flat tax option with limited deductions. A national sales tax would be fine as long as it was weighted towards luxury goods and not basic necessities.

Abortion: He is strictly opposed to abortion. Me I am opposed to any abortion that is not based on a life threatening risk to the mother. I find it ironic that our government and society complain about the aging population and the low birth rate in this country, yet we allow the abortion of millions of babies.

These are just a few of the issues, if you take the time and do a little research you will find more on his positions. The key thing that attracts me to Tom Tancredo as a presidential candidate is he is a federalist. For those unclear what a federalist system is here is the Britannica definition.

federalism

Political system that binds a group of states into a larger, noncentralized, superior state while allowing them to maintain their own political identities. Certain characteristics and principles are common to all successful federal systems: a written constitution or basic law stipulating the distribution of powers; diffusion of power among the constituent elements, which are substantially self-sustaining; and territorial divisions to ensure neutrality and equality in the representation of various groups and interests. Changes require the consent of those affected.

Basically he believes in the states right to self govern with little federal intervention. Part of being a good citizen is to take an active role in deciding the direction of this country. As the old saying goes if you don’t vote, don’t complain. And if you do vote, do the research to make informed decisions.

See Tom's record...here.

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Eroding Citizenship?

Source: timesleader

I have to ask, has the ACLU ever taken any case that made this country stronger, more safe, or supported the very idea of citizenship?

Register of wills won’t give license for illegal immigrant to marry area woman.

Wilkes Barre -- The American Civil Liberties Union on Tuesday filed a federal lawsuit against Luzerne County Register of Wills Dorothy Stankovic for refusing to accept a marriage application of an illegal immigrant who wishes to marry a legal resident of the United States.

The suit, filed on behalf of Heather Buck and Jose Guadelupe Arias-Maravilla of West Hazleton, says Stankovic’s policy requires applicants to prove they are legal residents before she will issue a marriage license. The ACLU maintains that policy is not based on any state statute and violates the U.S. and Pennsylvania constitutions.

The suit could potentially have statewide impact as other counties are believed to have similar policies, said lawyer Mary Catherine Roper of the ACLU in Philadelphia, the lead attorney in the case.

“This is a big deal,” Roper said in a phone interview Wednesday. “We’ve been talking to immigration attorneys all over the state and we understand the same thing is happening in practically every county you can name.”

According to the suit filed in federal court in Scranton, Arias-Maravilla, a citizen of Mexico, has admitted he is in the United States illegally and has agreed to be deported by May 12. He and Buck, who is a legal resident, have been living together since October 2005. They have a son, who was born in December. The couple were making arrangements for their marriage when Arias-Maravilla was taken into custody in January.

The suit says Arias-Maravilla was walking to a pay phone after his car broke down when he was approached by police. The officers asked for identification and he presented a Mexican driver’s license. He refused to answer when asked if he was in the country legally and was taken into custody and turned over to immigration officials.

Arias-Maravilla appeared before an immigration judge on March 6 and admitted he had entered the U.S. without permission. He agreed to voluntarily leave the country within 60 days.

The suit says Arias-Maravilla’s will still be deported even if he and Buck are married. The couple want to go through with the ceremony so that their son has the “legal, social, spiritual and psychological benefits of the lawful marriage of his parents.”

Pennsylvania law requires marriage license applicants to produce a birth certificate and provide information regarding their occupation, birthplace, residence and to certify they do not have a transmissible disease. It does not require proof of legal residency status, the suit says.

Buck and Arias-Maravilla say they went to Stankovic’s office on Tuesday. Arias-Maravilla presented a Mexican birth certificate as well as his passport and immigration papers, while Buck presented a birth certificate and photo identification. Deputy Register of Wills Don Williams refused to accept the application because there was no visa in Arias-Maravilla’s passport, which caused Williams to conclude Arias-Maravilla was “illegally in the country,” the suit says.

The suit further says Williams provided the couple a copy of Stankovic’s policy, which directs employees to refuse a marriage license to any foreign citizen who cannot prove legal residence in the United States and to report the applicants to immigration officials.

“The Register of Wills doesn’t get to make up rules. She is supposed to enforce the Pennsylvania marriage law. When you start making up rules that are not on the books, it infringes on people’s rights to be treated equally and you have a constitutional problem,” Roper said.

Stankovic, in a prepared statement, did not directly address the allegation the application was denied because of Arias-Maravilla’s residency status.

The statement says Stankovic’s office requires all applicants for a marriage license to present proof of identity for both applicants. Arias-Maravilla’s application was denied because he did not produce “satisfactory proof of identification,” Stankovic says in the release.

“This has been a long-standing policy of the Clerk of the Orphan’s Court,” Stankovic said. “It is my intention to adamantly oppose any move to have my office modify or change the current policy.”

The suit asks a federal judge to declare the policy void and to issue a preliminary injunction prohibiting Stankovic from enforcing it. It also seeks unspecified monetary damages for violations of the plaintiff’s rights, as well as court costs and attorney fees.

Illegal aliens are not "near beer" citizens, and we do them and ourselves no favors by pretending they are. Citizenship is one of the most important commodities in a republic, and actions like this can only serve to weaken the republic, not strengthen it. funny how the ACLU never appears to take the side of the country that spawned it, ain't it?

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Jobs Americans Won't Do?

Source: 11 eyewitnessnews

Video here.

RALEIGH) - A man who stood with his back to the Eyewitness News camera because he is afraid to show his face or reveal his name, is originally from Mexico City and now a very successful building contractor who lives in the Triangle.

He is also an illegal immigrant filing a federal income tax return, and in 2006, he made more than $577,000.

Through an interpreter he said, “I’ve been long enough in the country, and I know I have to do the right thing. And I know paying taxes is the right thing.”

His wealth may be an exception, but the tax return filed by an illegal immigrant is not.

Across the Triangle and across the nation, undocumented workers are flooding a handful of income tax offices which cater to immigrants.

“Over the past three years, what I have seen is every year there is an increase,” said Blaire Borthayre, tax service consultant.

According to Borthayre more and more illegal immigrants are filing tax returns on the hope of gaining legal residency. Immigration bills now pending in congress would legalize undocumented workers if they can prove a history of tax payment.

Tax preparers say many immigrants are filing returns for multiple years, and they have cash for Uncle Sam.

“The most I’ve seen is $14K and that was in a suitcase this past year,” Borthayre said.

It all must sound puzzling to some but many immigrants are filing returns not with social security numbers but with tax payer ID numbers. The numbers are legally obtained and issued by the government.”

Tax preparers echo a policy of the IRS.

“We don’t care if you are legal or illegal, we just want your money,” Borthayre said. “We want you to pay your taxes.”

The anonymous building contractor among many others is willing to comply.

How many further laws did this individual break amassing that money? How many corners were cut in the building process and what recourse will those he served have if they have problems in the future? The list of questions is endless, and pointless.

This story makes my head want to pop off. When you allow rampant lawlessness you empower only the lawless. Decent hardworking folk trying to follow the rules are the ones hurt by this. God**** you Mr. President, god**** you to hell!

H/T immigration watchdog

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Craig Nelson On South Korean Backlash...

There has been an incredible amount of chattering about "backlash" against South Koreans after the rampage at Virginia Tech, and as usual no backlash has emerged though the usual suspects never tire of reminding us, who don't tend to backlash, not to backlash, I think I have whiplash! (of course when the shoe was on the other foot, whaddaya know, there was a backlash!)

Anywho, Craig Nelson sent this email out today and it cracked my *** up, ****** little country indeed!

In the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings by a South Korean immigrant, the South Korean immigrant community held a church service to pray there wouldn't be a racial backlash against all South Koreans in the United States, and even though there hadn't been a single incident reported anywhere of any such "anti-South Korean backlash" occurring, the South Korean government had the chutzpah to issue a statement warning against an anti-South Korean racial backlash.

I'm insulted, frankly, at the nerve of this ****** little country.

In 2002, when a U.S. military vehicle accidentally struck and killed two school girls walking on the shoulder of a highway in South Korea, it unleashed months of "racial backlash" against all things American. Americans were attacked. American businesses were attacked. American military installations were attacked. The tightly controlled South Korean press failed to report the American military's apology, it failed to report the handsome monetary gift to the girls' families (paying off a victim's family is a disgusting and widespread Asian tradition), and massive riots were stoked by the Korean government. Never mind that our military, at great expense to the American people, are there to protect that ****** little country from the Korean whack job to the north in the first place.

Oh, did I mention that the deaths of the two schoolgirls was an accident? That the soldiers of the unit involved built a memorial to the two girls and held a candlelight vigil for them?

Compare that to the methodical murder, the intentional murder of 32 Americans by the South Korean killer at Virginia Tech. Did the South Korean community apologize to the families of the victims? Did the South Korean government express its sense of grief at the heartache one of their own had unleashed? No, not a word to that effect. And despite not a single whiff of any anti-South Korean sentiment anywhere, press coverage that took pains to describe the killer as "coming from our area (his immigrant family lived in northern Virginia)", the despicable South Koreans dared warn us against any backlash! It almost makes one want to do a little backlashing.

Here's a proposal. All Americans in South Korea, get out. Come home where you belong.

All Koreans in America, get out and go back to Korea, the ****** little country where you belong. Then you can all engage in all the anti-American demonstrations you please and no one will notice, because no one will care what goes on in your ****** little country. In fact, you can demonstrate right up to the point when WhackJob Ill-in-the-Head Joong takes over and throws you all into NK uniforms and shows you what anti-American demonstrations are supposed to look like.

If we'd thrown all you corrupt ingrates out a year ago, 32 of us would be alive today.

****! Now that's a scathing letter done American proud!

H/T VFR

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New York To Open Madrassas!

Source: IBD

Education seems to be a theme today...

Homeland Security: New York City plans to give Brooklyn Arabs and Muslims their own public school where they can speak Arabic. The idea is to promote cultural harmony. But it's Pollyannaish, and potentially dangerous.

With this culture, tolerance is not mutual. Putting aside the issue of American taxpayers supporting a school dedicated to the study of a foreign culture hostile to our own, the move raises serious security questions.

Will the school, located not far from Ground Zero, condone or encourage jihad? Will it act like a madrassa? How will authorities know any better, if classes are taught in Arabic?

If the school were opened in any other place, it might raise fewer alarms.

But Brooklyn — home to New York's largest Muslim population — has produced a number of radicals and terrorists. A popular mosque there has been linked to the first World Trade Center bombing and other acts of terrorism. *snip*

The catalyst behind the movement for such public madrassas is a Muslim immigrant from Yemen. Dhabah Almontaser, a veteran of the New York City school system, pitched the idea to officials. She thinks the government should open grade schools aimed at teaching Arabic, tolerance of Islam and cultural diversity.

And she'll be principal of the first of those schools, dubbed the Khalil Gibran International Academy, in Brooklyn. Set to open in September, it will serve grades 6 to 12 and will eventually include up to 600 students.

She wants to enroll Muslims and Arab immigrants to learn about their heritage, while exposing other students to Arab culture. "I see Arab-American students who want the opportunity to learn Arabic, to read it and write it and have a better understanding of where their ancestors have come from," Almontaser said.

Apparently the thousands of Saudi-backed mosques that already do that in this country aren't good enough for her. The public school is opening in partnership with the Arab-American Family Support Center, a Brooklyn advocacy group for Mideast immigrants.

The nonprofit's Web site says it "addresses the countless social and economic barriers that face the growing population of Arab immigrants." It complains that their "needs" — which apparently include promotion of their culture in public schools — "have been largely neglected."

In the age of Islamic and Arab terror, the last thing we need to do is promote a culture of intolerance and violence in New York City, a prime target for attack. School officials instead should insist that American students be taught American culture — in English.

The American Jihad rolls on unabated. I have a word of advice to our Muslim friends, do not think that our tolerance and forbearance of your plans and schemes is never ending. It has a limit, and you will find at the end of that particular road that pissing off America is a bit like biting down on a piece of tin foil wrapper stuck to a piece of candy.


H/T Toni @ BCL

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After raids, turnover soars
Hispanics bolt Smithfield plant

STEVEN GREENHOUSE, The New York Times

TAR HEEL, N.C. - In November, immigration officials began a crackdown at Smithfield Foods'
giant slaughterhouse here, eventually arresting 21 illegal immigrants at the plant and rousting
others from their trailers in the middle of the night.

Since then, more than 1,100 Hispanic workers have left the 5,200-employee hog-butchering
plant, the world's largest, leaving it struggling to find, train and keep replacements.
Across the country, the federal effort to flush out illegal immigrants is having major effects on workers and employers. Some companies have reluctantly raised wages to attract new workers
after raids at their plants. After several hundred immigrant employees at its plant in Stillmore,Ga., were arrested, Crider Poultry began recruiting workers from Minnesota, hiring men from a nearby homeless mission and providing free van transportation to many workers.

So far, Smithfield has largely replaced the Hispanics with American workers, who often leave
poorly paid jobs for higher wages at the Tar Heel plant. But the turnover rate for new workers -- many find the work grueling and the smell awful -- is twice what it was when Hispanics dominated the work force.
Making Smithfield's recruiting challenge even harder is the fact that many local residents have worked there before and soured on the experience. As a result, Smithfield often looks far afield for new employees.

Fannie Worley, a longtime resident of Dillon, S.C. -- a town of sagging trailers and ramshackle bungalows with a predominantly black population -- quit her $5.25-an-hour, part-time job making beds at a Days Inn four months ago to take a $10.75-an-hour job at Smithfield. But
Worley remains ambivalent.
"It pays a lot better," she said. "But the trip is too long."

About 1 p.m. each day, C.J. Bailey, a Smithfield worker, picks up Worley and 10 other
employees in his van. They arrive at the plant about 2:15 p.m., and he drops them back home
after 1 a.m. Several of the newly hired workers in the van -- they pay $40 a week for the ride -- said they were thinking of quitting, unhappy about having to commute so far and work so hard. At the plant, where the pay averages about $12 an hour, many spend hour after hour slitting hogs' throats, hacking at shoulders, and carving ribs and loins. At the end of their shifts, many complain that their muscles are sore and their minds are numb.

Problem gets worse

Employee turnover has long been a problem at Smithfield and other meat-processing plants, but
the problem has grown worse recently. Dennis Pittman, a Smithfield spokesman, said 60
percent of the new workers quit within 90 days of being hired, compared with 25 percent to 30
percent two years ago when many new employees were illegal immigrants.

"I've heard officials from a couple of other meat processors say they've never seen such high
turnover with new workers," Pittman said.
Several Southern companies have raised wages to attract new workers after immigration raids.
"But that's not the first thing that employers are going to do," said Mark Krikorian, executive
director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based think tank. "They're going
to try to cast their net wider before they do something that will raise costs."

Smithfield, for example, has run a flood of TV advertisements boasting that the company is a
good, safe place to work. The ads aim to persuade Carolinians to apply for jobs and to counter arguments made by a union trying to organize the plant that Smithfield's jobs are high-stress and unsafe, with stingy benefits.
One of the toughest challenges, Pittman said, has been training new employees to handle the
highest-skilled jobs at a plant that processes 30,000 hogs a day.

"The big problem is we lost a lot of people who were there a long time," Pittman said. "We have
been facing difficulties in hiring for a number of years because as the economy got better, the
labor market became much tighter."

When the plant opened in 1992, the area's jobless rate was high because tobacco was in retreat and textile mills were closing. Early on, most employees were black, but that changed with an influx of Hispanic immigrants, most of them Mexicans, in the mid-1990s.

Chris Kromm, executive director of the Institute for Southern Studies, said the Hispanics should not be viewed as shoving blacks aside, because the plant had such high turnover. "It's not as if these jobs were stable sources of employment for creating a black middle class," Kromm said.

The way Hector David, a longtime worker from Mexico who quit in February, sees it, Smithfield
had been eager to hire Hispanics because they worked so hard. "The Americans just don't work
as well," David said. "In Mexico, we work from the age of 5 in the corn fields. We're used to
working hard."

Pittman said Smithfield did its best to ensure that immigrant employees had legitimate
documentation. But many workers said Smithfield did not look too hard at the paperwork.
In November, the company notified 640 employees that their identity information did not match
government records. In January, federal agents arrested 21 workers at the plant, and in August,
helped by information the company provided, agents arrested 28 more, many of them at their
homes.

Others feel effects

The company and its employees are not the only ones affected by the crackdown.
Since the enforcement actions began, said Jazmin Gastelum, owner of a local Christian
bookstore, business from Hispanic customers has plunged 40 percent at her store and two
nearby Hispanic groceries. "A lot of people are going back to Mexico," Gastelum said. "And a lot
who haven't moved are scared to go outside."
The immigration arrests have also created problems for the union, the United Food and
Commercial Workers Union, which has spent 15 years seeking to organize the plant.

"A lot of the people who left or were detained were strong union supporters," said Gabriel Lopez Rivera, a Smithfield worker.
Gene Bruskin, the director of the unionization campaign, added, "It's extremely difficult for
workers to stand up for their rights when they're threatened with arrest or deportation."


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Hudson, actually there are laws preventing certain people from owning property now. It used to be the mortgage/real estate industry put on blinders when it came to due diligence in their practices. Now its a bit different. The days of 'stated income' loans and so forth are over. In most states the money to buy something has to be well documented as to where it came from. In Texas for example they do a lot more to verify who a person is before they hand over that deed.

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You have no clue what the hell you are talking about. First and foremost, there is no law that prevents illegals from owning property. Title 8, Section 1324 is for human trafficking. It has been attempted by local municipalities to usurp the law to mean what you want it to mean, however, those laws have been challenged and defeated. Second, "B" paper still exists. It is still legal. Yet with the credit crunch, it is very difficult to get financing. However, if one puts enough money down on a home, then B paper could be used.

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I don't know what sort of twisted economics your reading from. The wage isn't reflective of the person's status? Of course the two are very connected. Low skilled or not the two are hand in hand.

Oh, I don't know, Perhaps the National Bureau of Economic Research or perhaps one of the professional journals that I read from time to time? Illegal immigrants do not compete for my job nor yours. The jobs they do compete already have a price floor implaced on a federal and/or state level. And we are not talking about those who hire under the table. Remember the school child earning $3000 as a babysitter. Most of those who are involved in the underground economy are USC or legal residents, not illegals, Davdah. As for the rest of your post, I will deal with it at another time. But I have known high school kids with better economic sense than you have.


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