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Originally posted by SICKOFILLEGALS:
I agree with USC, I smell a rat, a big french smelly rat...

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I'm not Big, a few extra pounds maybe, but I'm working on it at the gym everyday (I have nothing else to do anyway)

I don't understand why you don't believe that I'm French... and I would be glad to show you that I smell better than a rat and That I'm a real French Frog

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Veuil*** ne pas écouter SickofIllegals. Il n'a aucune bonne information à partager. Il est juste un parasite.

Ayez un jour splendide !

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Originally posted by ntfd3:
french frog???? wow.

I dont really get good vibes on this one because there is too much emphasis on FRANCE!! french docs, french translations, french french french!! Nothing about ur home country, but do u want to stay here or not? I would concentrate what u have to do in AMERICA before u start ramming down everyones throat about what u have to do in FRANCE. If so many people are getting bothered on here god only knows what is going to happen when u do go to the interview. They really are not bothered where u come from, they already know just dont ram it down their throats.

I don't have to go back to my country, I just need to go to my consulate in Chicago
I think the interview will be fine and we have time to get ready, my girlfriend and I. Her worries are starting to affect me, maybe that's why I'm being paranoid about everything.

By the way what I want is my thread to be useful for French people willing go get married with a USC in the future. Unfortunately (for you) I have to mention the French part of the process...

Regarding the expression: French Frog, it's kind of private joke, because my bestfriend calls me "Lazy Frog" because for the moment I don't work, nothing else.

Have a nice day.

i was supprised that a french man himself used the phrase french frog. I was under the assumption that froggies didnt use it !! (grins)

I am curious as to why u have to get permission from the French authorities to marry? Is there a site that one can read up on the requirements?

Make sure that u dont go out of status dealing with ur country of origin, although i suppose that is a moot point as overstays are forgiven on marriage to a usc, but no point in putting hurdles where they are not needed.

Sorry, it's in French:

LE MARIAGE
Les représentations diplomatiques et consulaires françaises aux Etats-Unis ne sont pas autorisées à célébrer les mariages. Le Code civil français prévoit néanmoins la possibilité du mariage à l'étranger à condition que celui-ci soit célébré dans les formes prévues par le pays ou il a lieu. Pour que votre mariage soit valable en France il faudra donc qu'il soit célébré dans les formes de l'Etat américain dans lequel il aura lieu. Il faut également que vous soyez aptes au mariage au regard du droit français, c'est à dire être majeurs ou avoir l'accord de vos parents si vous êtes mineurs.

Enfin il faudrait avant le mariage, faire publier les bans, à la mairie de votre domicile en France. Il vous faudra demander ensuite au service de l'état civil de la mairie de votre lieu de naissance de procéder à la transcription de votre mariage. Vous devrez produire un justificatif, conservez bien celui qui vous sera remis aux Etats-Unis.

Si vous êtes résident aux Etats-Unis, il convient de solliciter la publication des bans auprès du Consulat Général de France territorialement compétent (en fonction de l'état dans lequel est célébré le mariage), puis de prendre l'attache des autorités américaines habilitées à célébrer le mariage.

La procédure du mariage aux Etats-Unis est très simple. Il suffit d'aller chercher une "marriage licence" à la mairie du comté (County Courthouse). Si vous avez plus de 18 ans, vous aurez tout de suite votre licence. Vous devrez remplir un formulaire. Vous présentez une pièce d'identité avec photo (le passeport peut suffire). Si vous avez déjà été marié(e), présentez les preuves de votre divorce. Votre situation légale par rapport à l'immigration n'a pas d'importance.

Une fois muni de votre licence, vous avez 90 jours pour vous marier. Il faut qu'un prêtre, un juge, un "commissioner of a court of record" ou son assistant ou le County Clerk lui-même, vous marie en vous déclarant mari et femme après vous avoir demandé votre accord. Il n'existe pas, comme en France, un mariage civil et un mariage religieux.

Le mariage peut avoir lieu dans n'importe quel endroit. Il suffit du maître de cérémonie, de vous deux et d'un témoin. Le juge ou le prêtre remplira le Certificate of Marriage que vous a donné le County Clerk et le retournera à ce même County Clerk 30 jours après la cérémonie.

Si vous êtes résidents aux Etats-Unis, la demande de transcription du mariage au Consulat Général de France, doit être faite par les époux ou l'un d'entre eux après la célébration du mariage. Les pièces à fournir au service de l'état civil sont les suivantes :
- la preuve de la nationalité française d'au moins un des époux (carte d'immatriculation consulaire ou carte nationale d'identité française en cours de validité ou certificat de nationalité française),
- les copies intégrales de vos actes de naissance datant de moins de trois mois.
- en cas de mariage avec un conjoint étranger : la copie conforme de son acte de naissance,
- s'il ne s'agit pas d'un premier mariage, une copie certifiée conforme du jugement de divorce ou certificat de décès du précédent conjoint. La production du jugement de divorce n'est pas nécessaire si le divorce est mentionné sur l'acte de naissance,
- la copie intégrale de votre acte de mariage ("Complete Certificate of Marriage) à demander auprès du "comté" compétent. Une simple photocopie (même certifiée conforme) n'est pas recevable.

Un livret de famille sera ensuite délivré au conjoint français.

Cette procédure peut être faite par correspondance, prenez alors contact avec le Consulat Général de France de votre circonscription afin d'obtenir les modalités d'envoi.

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LE MARIAGE
Les représentations diplomatiques et consulaires françaises aux Etats-Unis ne sont pas autorisées à célébrer les mariages. Le Code civil français prévoit néanmoins la possibilité du mariage à l'étranger à condition que celui-ci soit célébré dans les formes prévues par le pays ou il a lieu. Pour que votre mariage soit valable en France il faudra donc qu'il soit célébré dans les formes de l'Etat américain dans lequel il aura lieu. Il faut également que vous soyez aptes au mariage au regard du droit français, c'est à dire être majeurs ou avoir l'accord de vos parents si vous êtes mineurs.

Enfin il faudrait avant le mariage, faire publier les bans, à la mairie de votre domicile en France. Il vous faudra demander ensuite au service de l'état civil de la mairie de votre lieu de naissance de procéder à la transcription de votre mariage. Vous devrez produire un justificatif, conservez bien celui qui vous sera remis aux Etats-Unis.

Si vous êtes résident aux Etats-Unis, il convient de solliciter la publication des bans auprès du Consulat Général de France territorialement compétent (en fonction de l'état dans lequel est célébré le mariage), puis de prendre l'attache des autorités américaines habilitées à célébrer le mariage.

La procédure du mariage aux Etats-Unis est très simple. Il suffit d'aller chercher une "marriage licence" à la mairie du comté (County Courthouse). Si vous avez plus de 18 ans, vous aurez tout de suite votre licence. Vous devrez remplir un formulaire. Vous présentez une pièce d'identité avec photo (le passeport peut suffire). Si vous avez déjà été marié(e), présentez les preuves de votre divorce. Votre situation légale par rapport à l'immigration n'a pas d'importance.

Une fois muni de votre licence, vous avez 90 jours pour vous marier. Il faut qu'un prêtre, un juge, un "commissioner of a court of record" ou son assistant ou le County Clerk lui-même, vous marie en vous déclarant mari et femme après vous avoir demandé votre accord. Il n'existe pas, comme en France, un mariage civil et un mariage religieux.

Le mariage peut avoir lieu dans n'importe quel endroit. Il suffit du maître de cérémonie, de vous deux et d'un témoin. Le juge ou le prêtre remplira le Certificate of Marriage que vous a donné le County Clerk et le retournera à ce même County Clerk 30 jours après la cérémonie.

Si vous êtes résidents aux Etats-Unis, la demande de transcription du mariage au Consulat Général de France, doit être faite par les époux ou l'un d'entre eux après la célébration du mariage. Les pièces à fournir au service de l'état civil sont les suivantes :
- la preuve de la nationalité française d'au moins un des époux (carte d'immatriculation consulaire ou carte nationale d'identité française en cours de validité ou certificat de nationalité française),
- les copies intégrales de vos actes de naissance datant de moins de trois mois.
- en cas de mariage avec un conjoint étranger : la copie conforme de son acte de naissance,
- s'il ne s'agit pas d'un premier mariage, une copie certifiée conforme du jugement de divorce ou certificat de décès du précédent conjoint. La production du jugement de divorce n'est pas nécessaire si le divorce est mentionné sur l'acte de naissance,
- la copie intégrale de votre acte de mariage ("Complete Certificate of Marriage) à demander auprès du "comté" compétent. Une simple photocopie (même certifiée conforme) n'est pas recevable.

Un livret de famille sera ensuite délivré au conjoint français.

Cette procédure peut être faite par correspondance, prenez alors contact avec le Consulat Général de France de votre circonscription afin d'obtenir les modalités d'envoi.

Bonne journee tout le monde !

Here's the English version (used a translator this time - can't translate that fast!!!)

THE MARRIAGE
The diplomatic and consular representations French in the United States are not authorized to celebrate the marriages. The French Civil code envisages nevertheless the possibility of the marriage abroad provided that this one is celebrated in the forms envisaged by the country or it takes place. So that your marriage is valid in France it will thus be necessary that it is celebrated in the forms of the American State in which he will take place. It is necessary also that you are suited to the marriage taking into consideration French right, i.e. being major or to have the agreement of your parents if you are minors.

Finally it would be necessary for the marriage, to make publish the banns, with the town hall of your residence in France. It will be necessary for you to ask then the service of the marital status of the town hall of your birthplace to proceed to the transcription of your marriage. You will have to produce a document in proof, preserve well that which will be given to you to the United States.

If you are resident with the United States, it is appropriate to solicit publication of banns near Consulate General of France territorialement qualified (according to the state in which the marriage is celebrated), then to take the fastener of the American authorities entitled to celebrate the marriage.

The procedure of the marriage in the United States is very simple. It is enough to go to seek a “marriage licence” with the town hall of the county (County Courthouse). If you have more than 18 years, you will have your licence immediately. You will have to fill a form. You present an identity paper with photograph (the passport can be enough). If you were already married (E), present the evidence of your divorce. Your legal situation compared to immigration does not have importance.

Once provided with your licence, you have 90 days to marry you. Need that a priest, a judge, one “to commission off has off runs record” or his assistant or County Clerk itself, you Marie by declaring you husband and woman after having wondered your agreement. There does not exist, as in France, a civil wedding and a church wedding.

The marriage can take place in any place. It is enough to the witness and you, master of ceremonies two. The judge or the priest will off fill Certificate Marriage which County Clerk gave you and will turn over it to this same County Clerk 30 days after the ceremony.

If you are resident in the United States, the request for transcription of the marriage to the Consulate General of France, must be made by the husbands or one of them after the celebration of the marriage. The parts required to the service of the marital status are as follows:
- the proof of the French nationality of at least one of the husbands (consular chart of registration or national chart of French identity under validity or French certificate of registry),
- integral copies of your birth certificates going back to less than three months.
- in the event of marriage with a foreign spouse: the copy certified of its birth certificate ,
- it is not a question itself of a first marriage, a certified copy of the judgement of divorce or certificate of death of the joint precedent. The production of the judgement of divorce is not necessary if the divorce is mentioned on the birth certificate,
- the integral copy of your marriage certificate (“Certificate Marriage Supplements off) to ask near “qualified county the”. A simple photocopy (even certified conforms) is not admissible.

A family record book will be then delivered with the French spouse.

This procedure can be made by correspondence, then contact the Consulate General of France of your district in order to obtain the methods of sending.



Good day everyone!

We went to the doctor's in Chicago today and we had the documentation required by the French Consulate.
I paid $55 for my consultation and $110 for my girlfriend's because a blood test is required for her(optional for me).
Blood pressure, pulse, weight, height, diseases in the past, actual health, a few jokes and here we are.

OK someone has to help me out big time here. Frenchy has stated that he went to the doctors in Chicago for his medical where he paid 55 dollars. and that his blood test was optional.??????????

is this the medical for the AOS? If it is I would seriously like to know why a blood test is OPTIONAL for him. It clearly states on the USCIS web site and on the Medical Form that a BLOOD test is MANDATORY to test for HIV and SYP. Unless these illnesses have been proven to not exsist in French nationals I am confused !!! And if this medical was just for the french consulate then u might find u have to have another medical for ur paperwork.

thanks proud for translating.

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Originally posted by ntfd3:
OK someone has to help me out big time here. Frenchy has stated that he went to the doctors in Chicago for his medical where he paid 55 dollars. and that his blood test was optional.??????????

is this the medical for the AOS? If it is I would seriously like to know why a blood test is OPTIONAL for him. It clearly states on the USCIS web site and on the Medical Form that a BLOOD test is MANDATORY to test for HIV and SYP. Unless these illnesses have been proven to not exsist in French nationals I am confused !!! And if this medical was just for the french consulate then u might find u have to have another medical for ur paperwork.

thanks proud for translating.

ntfd3 - the way I read this, the doctor's appointment was for the French Consulate - not for AOS. That's probably why his fiance needed a blood test, but not him. I'm sure he'll be required to take a blood test for AOS.

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Originally posted by ProudUSC:

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Originally posted by ntfd3:
OK someone has to help me out big time here. Frenchy has stated that he went to the doctors in Chicago for his medical where he paid 55 dollars. and that his blood test was optional.??????????

is this the medical for the AOS? If it is I would seriously like to know why a blood test is OPTIONAL for him. It clearly states on the USCIS web site and on the Medical Form that a BLOOD test is MANDATORY to test for HIV and SYP. Unless these illnesses have been proven to not exsist in French nationals I am confused !!! And if this medical was just for the french consulate then u might find u have to have another medical for ur paperwork.

thanks proud for translating.

ntfd3 - the way I read this, the doctor's appointment was for the French Consulate - not for AOS. That's probably why his fiance needed a blood test, but not him. I'm sure he'll be required to take a blood test for AOS.

You are right... I did not take the blood test because I know I will have to take it again witha doctor approved by the USCIS

Lol this is a funny thread.
Frenchy, good luck on your process ahead of you and just a small suggestion. Americans have some issues with the French, more than any other nations. I wouldn't say it is a positive thing. The good thing is they love to buy French products if you want to go into business. Import stuff from France and you'll sell loads of it here.
See this store as an example (a good friend of mine):
www.thefrenchybee.com

Bon soir!

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Originally posted by iperson:
Lol this is a funny thread.
Frenchy, good luck on your process ahead of you and just a small suggestion. Americans have some issues with the French, more than any other nations. I wouldn't say it is a positive thing. The good thing is they love to buy French products if you want to go into business. Import stuff from France and you'll sell loads of it here.
See this store as an example (a good friend of mine):
www.thefrenchybee.com

Bonsoir!

You know when I meet someone after a while he/she knows that I'm French, the first question is: Why the French don't like the American ???
Every person I met loves me... Not because I'm French just because I try to be a nice guy as much as possible.
When you are in a small town, the butcher, the baker, the teller at the bank, they know who you are because you have a particularity, and I NEVER had any problems because of my nationality, It has been a positive point to me. And when my bestfriend introduces me to someone, he doesn't even use my first name, just Frenchy. So a lot of friends doesn't even know my name or doesn't use it.
Of course if one day I do something bad, people will remember me because of that.

To me it's a stereotype: American people don't like French, French don't like American... You don't care about us, we don't care about you. We have enough to deal with in our coutries

I would say, people are usually afraid of what they don't know...

French people are like you, we just live in a smaller country

Thanks for the link and the advice... My idea was to buy some american cars and to sell them in France... But it's just an idea

great idea to sell cars in theory. Actually the transportation to Europe is pretty reasonable. The problem tho is the taxes on the other side. They can cripple! Luxury tax its called in holland and germany not sure about France. hence why there are not so many harleys on the other side of the puddle.

food sounds like a great idea! I would love to find a german shop nearer here than there is. The stuff in the supermarkets just dont cut it.

I was supposed to create a company with a friend and we haven't done it... But the idea is still in my head, but I need funds to start. So once "legal" I will work like everybody and see if I can still do it or not

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Every person I met loves me... wub Not because I'm French just because I try to be a nice guy as much as possible. flowers

It is not because you are a nice guy, it is because of the always smile American way. American people are always nice to everybody, on the surface, if you know what I mean.

Wasn't aware the animosity between the French and the Americans was mutual...

I went to the County Courthouse to get the "marriage License" and they were closed, so I have to go back this afternoon.
I dropped off all my paperwork at the French Consulate in Chicago, and everything seemed to be okay.
Now I have to see, if it's possible for me to get married in an other state. The reason is simple, I need an "apostille" on my "marriage License" and I can have one far from my place (4h30 one way), or in Wisconsin, (1h30 one way).
Do you think it's a problem to do it like that? Because If I have to get merried in my own state, my friends and witnesses won't make it... I alreday have postponed the Party to the following week in a restaurant because of that.