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<shade>
Posted
june 30 2003

I went to embassy at 10.30 am
I gave my DD at window no 14. and then iam asked to wait till Iam called. Iwas called at 1 pm by and indian lady to window no 12. It was an indian lady who asked for the documents and checked them birth certificate and affidavit of support etc she was also asking me questions about my faincee in the mean time like when did we meet and how and when was the time i saw her and since i had co-sponsors too she asked me about them. In all she was sweet and not rude as i was expecting from all the reading here. After that iam asked to take a seat. after some time iam called again this time again an indian lady but a different one and she brings to my notice the mistake in my passport and she says that i will have to get it corrected and that i will get 221(g) and she leaves saying she will give me that letter. so after 2 hours Iam called again but this time it was some american woman her name is Tanya she asks me to take oath which i did
she asked me questions like :-what date do u meet her online?, what date did u realise u love her? what date did u say i want to marry u?or who said it ? to which i said i dont remember the dates ma'am and she was like what!!!! ur going to marry her and ur going to america and u dont remember the date when u first met her online and which room did u meet her ? are u doing this for visa ?
i was nerveous by this time as she was yelling and then she said how long do u know her and i messed it up saying 2 and half hours but immediately i said i means years, but that was it. she kept saying hours hours for 30 seconds and she asked me if i need a interpreter to which i said no and iam sorry it was slip of tongue and i meant years but she kept on saying if it hours days months years or decades i was quite and after she was finished i said hours again!!! and sorry years and then after that she gave me that letter 221(g) which was already lying there on the desk asking me to get my birth place changed on the passport

July 7, 2003
I go back to embassy at 7.30 am and was told to come back at 12.15 pm but as it was raning outside and i had no where to go i stayed in and was called at 11 am !!!!!
so this time it was some elderly bald amercian ( well i am only describing him as most of the people ask about it ) he was polite never yelled he asked me all the proofs about her coming to india and then asked me about my fiancee's biological father but i didnt knew much about his as even my fiancee dosent know about him much as he left when she was very young and she is not in touch with him since then. The question was about his citizen and i said he was amercian and he is but his last name is german so he was saying he was a german to which i had nothing to say and the other thing was about my previous marraige(well i agree its kinda strange how my first marraige is, to be short - was married to a girl for less than one month she leaves due to her father tried to kill her mom as he thought her mom was responsible for her marraige, she goes back to her parents and marries some other guy and after a while she think she made a mistake and her mom tried to manipulate her and so she comes backs to me and i ask her to go to her parents and her husband as she is legally married to him but she dosent want to go back so i say i will talk to her parents and her husband but she dosent want to go back and tries to kills herself and i thought she was bluffing trying to stop me from going to her parents so i didnt listen to her as i was talking to the land lady asking her to let her live there while i go visit her parents she does that so as i was there i take her to hospital she was in hospital for 35 days and her parents never came, so her death certificate has my name as her husband even if was not. So they have to check if any criminal charges were pressed against me which i understand and is fine by me ) so i had many questions about this which is understandable, i think they want to check my record and it will take time but when he said that he didnt even bothered to ask me the emails and phone bills and photos the stuff they usually ask for and he went to look for the letter he wanted to give me saying that my case is on the review so when he comes back i tell him i have the emails and phone bills , he asks me to leave it behind so he can go through them and when i had all those things to him he is like hmm this is so much it will take couple of weeks before we contact u and he gives me the letter which says " your case in under administrative processing and we will contact u "
so thats all i have to tell about my interview and i would like some inputs
 
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<UglyAmerican>
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you sound like Meursault, the stranger. Indifferent, apathetic it is easy to be suspecious the way you have discribed your ex-wife's death. You are an intriguing charactor.

An american visa officer would like to see that you are more emotionally commited to the person who what to be with in the US. They like to see if those dates ect. are important to you.

Frankly, I think the USC is a s u c k e r for falling for you - that is if she actually fell for you and it ain't a contract. But hey it is not your fault.

Fellow, you are a manupulative fellow, so how come you ain't remembering the dates? If there were another interview do write down those dates and recite them and keep your cool.
 
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<Lurker>
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Sounds to me more like a language barrier than a personality issue, UA! How can you analyze the poor guy from his writing,especially as it is obviously in a second language NOT yet completely natural to him? The use of tense, the lack of phrasing is not due to some latent personality disorder! I can't imagine how poorly I would come across in writing if I tried to explain a complicated chain of events in Spanish (MY second language).
 
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<Lurker>
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Also, I can't remember the exact date my husband first said he wanted to marry me (I can easily remember where - in the basement during a televised Vikings game in the fall of 2000) but the exact day? She did not ask the date he proposed, which of course one would remember.
 
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<shade>
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UA english is my third language and yes i do have problems with it. But sir calling my fiancee a ****er is really uncalled for. Yes i do agree the death of my first wife is suspicious and iam not complaining that iam on review i just wanted to know if they really look into it and try to know the truth or they just judge by the information provided like u did sir ? i hope its not that case. and yes it is not a contract but do i need to explian that to u ? my financee believes in me and thats all i want. Thank you for ur responses
hope u will reply but in a positive way
 
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<Me2>
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What I can see here is that he was trying his best, but you sounds SO NERVOUS! Calm down and before you answer anything, take few moments and don't just BLURT things out. I know few ppl who get nervous and just saying what they thinking, so you might one of them.

I know lots of men that very bad in DATE too. Trust me, there are many out there, but doesn't mean they are not honest, it just sometimes that their attitude, but I'm sorry to say, that when you deal with BCIS or consular, please, please...prepare yourself, you know they gonna ask about HOW, WHY, WHEN, DATES AND SO ON....so do your homework even you don't like it. You won't like it when they suspicious coz' its not easy if they reject your application, it will be another long road to go again, that is why I strongly advise ppl who go for interview don't take things easy, PREPARE!!!!

Good luck.
 
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<NOW>
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Shade: it is commonly know that men (and women) of your cultural background will burn a wife alife if she's in the way of a new moped or going to America! So yes, it's quite suspicious, no matter if that applies to you or not, and I'm in no way to judge from a computer screen what the case is!
If your intentions are not fraudelent and your financee is really interrested, everything should go well. No worries!
 
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<UglyAmerican>
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Shade: Ok, let me put is this way: everyone is a s u c k e r for something and that you are one very lucky fellow.

And you have demostrated that your supposed ly third language, English, is much better than that of millians of Americans, whose first language is English.

Alright, now when the US visa officer posses a question, don't act up like a typical Indian and shoot with your mouth the next second. Awaid answering like a game show such as Jeopardy; take a moment to think and answer.

I understand that we don't remember all of the dates pertaing to a relationship such as yours with the american fiance; those interviewers probably don't know theirs if turned the question on them. But you must understand that the those officers are trying to deny you the visa; that is they are trying to find sufficient reason to deny, not to grant you the visa. So, you should not let them have those reasons.

One great way you can help yourself in this matter is to speak with an immigration atterney. I am sure India has plenty of Lawyers, some specialing in visa processes to the US. Spend some money and you can have one accompany you to interviews such as the one you had.


Lurker: I think the problem is cultural not liguistic. I think he has good language skills, which is to be expected form a would be immigrant from India.

But I think he has tried to answer fast because that is they way a typical, modern indian talks. He or she is trained since kinderguarden to be quick with the asnswers; generally quick with his mouth. This can be witnessed in the Bollywood movies where the dialogues are delivered in rapid fasion; musing, and contemplation are totally alien characteristic to vast majority of the viewers. With the mass of humanity, and meager resources this is to be expected.

I may be off the mark, but not by much.
 
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<UglyAmerican>
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Shade: Ok, let me put is this way: everyone is a s u c k e r for something and that you are one very lucky fellow.

And you have demostrated that your supposedly third language, English, is much better than that of millians of Americans, whose first language is English. English is my third language too.

Alright, now when the US visa officer posses a question, avoid shooting with your mouth the very next second, like in some contest. Awaid answering like a participant in a game show such as Jeopardy; take a moment to think and answer.

I understand that many of us couldn't remember all of the dates pertaing to relationship such as yours; those interviewers probably don't know theirs if you turned the question on them. But you must understand that the those officers are trying to deny you the visa; that is, they are trying to find sufficient reason to deny you, not to grant you, the visa. So, you should be prepared and not let them have those reasons.

One great way you can help yourself in this matter to have an immigration atterney help you out. I am sure India has plenty of Lawyers, some specialing in visa processes to the US. If this matter is important to you, spend some money have one accompany you to interviews such as the one you had.


Lurker: I think the problem is cultural not liguistic. Demostratedly, he has good language skills, which is to be expected from a would-be immigrant from the subcontinent.

But I think he has tried to answer as rapidly as he could, that is not atypical; that is the way a typical, modern indian talks. He or she is trained since kindergarten to be quick with the asnswers, generally quick with his mouth. This can be witnessed in the Bollywood movies where the dialogues are delivered in rapid fashion; musing, and contemplation are totally alien characteristic to vast majority of the indian viewers. With the mass of humanity, and meager resources this is natural consequence I suppose.

I may be off the mark, but not by much.
 
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<shade>
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Now:: I do agree that wife burning is kinda common in india and maybe thats the reason embassy wants to check it out and i have no complaints. The suggestion that i may have burnt my wife to come to usa its not true for that accident happened 5 years before and i have met my finacee in march 2001.
Me2::Thanks for the concern i will prepare this time and we are working on it day , date , month all that stuff .
UA:: Yes i think ur right i perhaps tried to answer to early
thank you
 
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