How can you place a timeline on discovering someone's illicit plan? It doesn't matter how long it took to find out, the fact remains that if she believes the alien used the marriage for immigrant benefit, she should inform USCIS of her concerns with as much evidence to support her belief as possible.
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Originally posted by speed_025:
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My sister married this man for love. He on the other hand did not! In her eyes, the marriage was/is in good faith.
It took your sister 3 years to realize he didn't marry him for love.How can that be?
I agree with aneri... she needs a solid evidence to claim fraud.
You should also remember fraud come in two sides. This man will tell his side of the story. It can get nasty and might put your sister to an emotional stress.
The faster she gets out... the better for her.
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There may be 2 sides to the story, but USCIS is MOST interested in the USC's side! If she has evidence she should provide it to USCIS. Should USCIS wish to approach the alien about the report, then the alien would have chance to rebut her claim
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Originally posted by speed_025: Like I said there are two sides in this story. I didn't give a bad advice.
I suggest just give your advice don't jump into somebody opinion.
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Interesting. If you have "evidence" you can present it to DHS/USCIS.
Perhaps a lesson learned here. I will be curious to see if down the road a "real" Ethopian wife appears.
Your sister should count herself as lucky and move on with her life. She should also not go back to Ethopia for any reconcillation trips/visits she might disappear.
Divorce causes all kinds of bad emotions, often the desire for "revenge" after being scorned. A Western Woman and an Ethopian man had little in common to begin with, perhaps the marriage was doomed from the start.
This is one of the problems that comes along with marrying a person who has a background and character that you cannot verify. Tell your sister to stick to American Men your family knows and can verify are of good moral stock.
Stop, stop, stop right here republicanwriter. For once, please do keep your name as it is- republicanwriter, and under no circumstances a democratwriter, ok? Twice, the fearmongering is a very bad way to approach this matter. Stop slinging mud at foreigners. Three, Ethiopia is not Nigeria. I doubt you've ever been to Africa. And maybe that's the problem of most republicans- they do not travel. Africans are by and large much less cunning and sophisticated than Americans and Westerners. African men are much more human than many Americans, and much less likely to deceive.
Third, you don't know the whole story, and I am certain OP is not presenting the case from an objective point of view. Multicultural relationships are very complex, and you can't base your view on one side of it- the immigration benefits obtained by the foreign side.
Aside from the immigration issue, a marriage in America is not something permanent by any records. Most marriages in America fall apart sooner than anywhere in the world, and it so happens there are many conniving American women marrying wealthy American men for money. Then they divorce and battle for huge divorce settlements. Take Paul McCartney as an example. Nobody cries foul that the men got deceited and cheated and robbed in the middle of the day. They will say the men was blinded and naive, and got what he deserved.
I am not saying that there is no reason to suspect a deceit here, but I only warn you republicanwriter against fearmongering, generalizations, and narrow mindset, so many of you display on regular basis.
I wonder when Michael will tell me I committed marriage fraud, ignoring the fact we've been married for over 9 years and only applied for residency a year ago?
To the OP, I am sorry for your sister's situation. It must be heartbreaking for her.
From what I understand, she needs some pretty solid evidence in order to prove fraud. It's a pretty tough road, particularly as they deal with many spurned spouses who cry fraud as an act of revenge out of hurt. That said, I'm sure they've heard it all before and know how to wade through the muck.
It could well be that she will just need to chalk it up to experience.
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Twice, the fearmongering is a very bad way to approach this matter. Stop slinging mud at foreigners. Three, Ethiopia is not Nigeria. I doubt you've ever been to Africa. And maybe that's the problem of most republicans- they do not travel.
I have to give you the fearmongering one ! Thats pretty good !... HA HA..
Now for the Nigeria part...did I say Nigeria? I thought I said African Man... Ethiopia is an African Country.. last time I checked my map. Horn of Africa ..but still Africa.
Yes I have been to Africa.. Egypt to be exact. And perhaps unlike some of my friends who are still card carrying members of the GOP I have also traveled other parts of the Globe. I have actually lived in Europe and Central America as well as the Islands. Most recently... 2 months ago..(notice no posts in late Dec early Jan), I was in Eastern Europe.
No I am not the smartest ex-Republican nor the dumbest but I have put some miles on my Samsonite.
In the little bit of info given in this case by the OP I stick by my guns in recommending no travel to Ethiopia for "reconcilliation" visits.
I also said, move forward and remain dignified. That would preclude "bad things" from happening to either of them.
I have to give you the fearmongering one ! Thats pretty good !... HA HA..
Not sure if I get this wild response. The reason I mentioned Nigeria is because it is well known for nigerian scams (ever heard of 419 scam?- if not, you haven't been to Africa), while I haven't heard of Ethiopian scammers. So much so for your knowledge of Africa. You may have travelled, but with your finger on the map maybe. Your views reflect the non travelling village dwelling red neck, sorry but that's what it looks like.
There may be 2 sides to the story, but USCIS is MOST interested in the USC's side! If she has evidence she should provide it to USCIS. Should USCIS wish to approach the alien about the report, then the alien would have chance to rebut her claim
First of all the OP here is not the one involve in the marriage. For all you know this two people marriage can still be save. Why jump into immigration issue.
I have to give you the fearmongering one ! Thats pretty good !... HA HA..
Not sure if I get this wild response.
Your views reflect the non travelling village dwelling red neck, sorry but that's what it looks like.
Wow.. you can be pretty rough for a Dem. I thought the comment about "fearmongering" was pretty clever/funny political humour that was a compliment not a "wild response".
But it seems I have been tried and convicted of "red neck ism" ... my friends at work will find this amusing. It appears some folks on these forums troll the threads for something to find offensive. Maybe you are one of these folks.
I am not a bigot or a red neck and no body was talking about Nigerian scammers, and I find it odd if I haven't heard of the 419 scam you tell me I haven't been to Africa. I think that is a "wild response".
Although I perhaps should have been able to infer from your comments that was what you meant when you brought up Nigeria and accused me of not being well traveled or knowing anything about world geography. And what does my travel credentials have to do with my personal feeling that some of these folks should look before they leep?
I commented on a situation that seems to have a common theme in this and other immigration forums. The scam of a foreign national marrying a US Citizen for Immigration benefits. This "theme" seems particularly prevalent in forums where "online" relationships are the norm. Do I think US Citizens should stop marrying foreign nationals? No.. I think US Citizens who get scammed should look elsewhere for the next mate.
I think the world is full of people, and we meet them everyday. The trolling for a mate outside the US "online" to me is asking for a problem.
Those that meet someone who is a foreign national in the course of every day living, traveling overseas etc. and has time to court and spend time with this person vs emailing them and meeting them once before they drag them back to the US to try to find out if a real relationship will blossom are IMHO risking a a huge dissapointment.
Thats just my opinion. Doesn't make me a bad person, nor a bigot maybe skeptical, maybe cautious, maybe risk adverse but red neck...not so much.
Republicanwriter, I do agree with you, and it goes both ways.
While a marriage between two people who meet online can work, you should take extra precautions. Photos, phone calls, web cam, as well as talking to their family, friends and workmates regularly can help to distinguish between a serious person and one who's stringing you along.
Also, take your time. Rushed marriages between two people who met in person fail with great regularity. Why would we expect any difference when we meet someone online? Marriage isn't something that should be rushed in to.
Just because you're in love, doesn't mean you can't use your head.
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I think that she has the upper hand If she acts quick,USCIS is going to believe the USC because ,I mean you have to be blind to not see that was a fraud,I would say the most three months and he will be ship to africa.Ithink that when he sees that ,he is going to try to go back with her,I hope she is tough to say No,and learn the lesson,next time If she marries an illegal alien make him do a poligraph test.I am not going to speak against all African but a very high percentage like 99.9 percent of those africans want to get out their countries.Because of the poverty they are ,they can do whatever they can to get to america.It is sad,but thats life.I got my green card through marriage and USCIS asked a lot of questions and it was difficult though we had one child ,And I was a long process and all that is because of people like that,People like that should be put in jail,but not a regular jail but something like Guantanamo,you might say that Iam a hater but No ,I love illegals ,I just hate people who do things like this.They are worst than beasts.I wonder what your friend was thinking,go all the way to africa for a man,there are millions in america ,I married a USC but she is hispanic,I would say keep it within the same culture.I wonder what they talked ,what they had in common.He would talk about eating monkeys and elephants,she would talk about computers and TVs.that is insane.Dont think that I hate africans no.I even donate money to charity that helps children in africa.tell her to get a mexican next time ,mexicans are more easy to adapt in the states and most of them are here ,And it is going to be cheaper.By the way Iam not mexican ,I am salvadorean and we are not as easy to get as mexicans.well,I think I spoke what is in my heart .
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Originally posted by Fredy: People like that should be put in jail,but not a regular jail but something like Guantanamo,
I wonder what they talked ,what they had in common.He would talk about eating monkeys and elephants,she would talk about computers and TVs.that is insane.Dont think that I hate africans no.
tell her to get a mexican next time ,mexicans are more easy to adapt in the states and most of them are here
Fredy,
You are wonderful ... but just say NO to Guantanamo.
Eating Elephants? You do know how to eat an Elephant don't you? ONE BITE AT A TIME
Yes, I never thought of it this way but MEXICAN's do seem to adapt much more easily to life in the US, and they certainly are more "plentiful" as you suggest...
Hi hon, it's so sweet your concern for your sister... Sounds to me like fraud...the Ethiopians only marry their own kind. The fact that a woman answered the line then lied about it, the fact that he wanted no children are #1. I am sure there are things your sister is NOT telling you like how they probably don't go out together, or have sexual relations. I may be in the same boat down the line...read my story if u like but my advice is:How old is your sister?? What is her financial situation? religious background?? When you give a little more insight I will give you the voice of experience...my luv and my hugs go out to your sister.
I may be in the same boat down the line...read my story if u like but my advice is:How old is your sister?? What is her financial situation? religious background??
Forgive me farrah but Im kinda confuse.. didn't you just had your interview.. on what I read it went fine..
Originally posted by Farrah's Thoughts: Hi hon, it's so sweet your concern for your sister... Sounds to me like fraud...the Ethiopians only marry their own kind. The fact that a woman answered the line then lied about it, the fact that he wanted no children are #1. I am sure there are things your sister is NOT telling you like how they probably don't go out together, or have sexual relations. I may be in the same boat down the line...read my story if u like but my advice is:How old is your sister?? What is her financial situation? religious background?? When you give a little more insight I will give you the voice of experience...my luv and my hugs go out to your sister.
I was looking is my crystal ball and you are in the same situation. I see more there is no *** in your relationship,he does not want children,that is a big red flag.and he lives for free,he does not help you with rent,he sends money to his country.Right?oh my you are next in this marriage fraud! leave while you can!run ,run !ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! I cant believe it.You thought you won the lottety with your man but now you see that things are not that good.
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I may be in the same boat down the line...read my story if u like but my advice is:How old is your sister?? What is her financial situation? religious background?? When you give a little more insight I will give you the voice of experience...my luv and my hugs go out to your sister. 