Extremely hard to own one, unless it is for work or sport related but even that there are many hurdles to get through to get one. You can't have one in your bag or just laying around in your house either, has to be secured. Can't use one for self defense either.
Google it A9 lol
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Laws are often similar in the UK and NZ, and in NZ you need to be licensed. To get that, you need to pass background and criminal checks, pass a test regarding your knowledge of gun use, safety and security as well as prove what your guns will be for and that they will be secured when not in use (this includes going to your property to check your storage facilities). The license can be revoked at any time, and is administered and overseen by the police.
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Originally posted by Aroha: Laws are often similar in the UK and NZ, and in NZ you need to be licensed. To get that, you need to pass background and criminal checks, pass a test regarding your knowledge of gun use, safety and security as well as prove what your guns will be for and that they will be secured when not in use (this includes going to your property to check your storage facilities). The license can be revoked at any time, and is administered and overseen by the police.
How can you prove why you need a gun other than self protection? Kind of weird law. Other stuff I can understand like background and or criminal checks, knowledge etc.
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How easy is it to obtain gun illegally in UK? Recently read an article where a man shot some one who was wearing Obama shirt. So I guess it can be easily obtained illegally.
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Originally posted by a9b3h5: How easy is it to obtain gun illegally in UK? Recently read an article where a man shot some one who was wearing Obama shirt. So I guess it can be easily obtained illegally.
It was a BB gun.
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A9, I know you find it hard to believe or even think about a country without guns being everywhere, but guns are not allowed in the UK unless you want one for a very good reason.
Guns are not used for self protection, they are mainly used for sport or for work related jobs. Shotguns are even hard to obtain without going through checks and so on.
You can't just walk into a store and buy one.
Yes there are guns sold illegally in the UK, they are brought over from other countries somehow. Some are handmade. Some guns are stolen from people who do have licenses to have them, hence the reason why people who do have them must have them secured. In some places they are not allowed to have them at the house even if secured, they have to be kept at a secure location, like a gun sporting place.
I believe the man who got shot, was not shot with a real gun. It was a ball bearing gun (BB gun) that if not that familiar with can look very much like a firearm. They do hurt however.
They don't fire bullets as you know.
BB guns are easily to obtain through internet and other places I believe still in the UK.
Our police don't even have guns unless special Police I think. All my life in UK, I have never seen a gun.
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Nor I in NZ. I knew two people with access to guns. One for duck shooting. One was a pig hunter. Easy to prove.
As for the rest of it, people ought to know better than to read only the headline and the byline, particularly when it comes from a source such as the Daily Mail or the Daily Kos.
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Originally posted by Aroha: Nor I in NZ. I knew two people with access to guns. One for duck shooting. One was a pig hunter. Easy to prove.
As for the rest of it, people ought to know better than to read only the headline and the byline, particularly when it comes from a source such as the Daily Mail or the Daily Kos.
I agree Aroha
Total different thing I know but talking of Obama t-shirts or in this case, anti Obama, I heard this on the news recently:
Fifth Grader Suspended For Wearing Anti-Obama Shirt
An 11-year-old boy in Colorado was suspended from school after he refused to take off a shirt that read, “Obama is a terrorist’s best friend." His father says that the school is violating his son’s First Amendment rights.
Daxx Dalton, a fifth grader at Aurora Frontier K-8 School in Aurora, Colo., wore the homemade shirt on a day when students were asked to show their patriotism by wearing red, white and blue, according to MyFOXColorado.com.
When he was given the choice of turning the shirt inside out or being suspended, Dalton chose suspension.
"They're taking away my right of freedom of speech," he said. "If I have the right to wear this shirt I'm going to use it. And if the only way to use it is get suspended, then I'm going to get suspended."
Dann Dalton, the boy’s father — a “proud conservative†who has taken part in anti-abortion protests — told MyFOXColorado.com that the school is making a mistake by suspending his son.
"It's the public school system," he said. "Let's be honest, it's full of liberal loons."
He later told FOX News, "I didn't expect (my son) to get what he got, that was ridiculously uncalled for."
His son also told FOX News he was "encouraged" to wear the shirt by his father.
"I felt like I should wear it, because I have a right to," he added.
The school district would not discuss the case, but said the district “respects a student’s right to free speech, such as the right to wear specific clothing,†but they reserve the right to review any situation that interrupts the learning environment, MyFOXColorado.com reported.
Dalton’s suspension was for willful disobedience and defiance, not for wearing the shirt. His father said he intends to sue the district.
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Originally posted by Sprint_girl07: A9, I know you find it hard to believe or even think about a country without guns being everywhere, but guns are not allowed in the UK unless you want one for a very good reason.
Guns are not used for self protection, they are mainly used for sport or for work related jobs. Shotguns are even hard to obtain without going through checks and so on.
You can't just walk into a store and buy one.
Yes there are guns sold illegally in the UK, they are brought over from other countries somehow. Some are handmade. Some guns are stolen from people who do have licenses to have them, hence the reason why people who do have them must have them secured. In some places they are not allowed to have them at the house even if secured, they have to be kept at a secure location, like a gun sporting place.
I believe the man who got shot, was not shot with a real gun. It was a ball bearing gun (BB gun) that if not that familiar with can look very much like a firearm. They do hurt however.
They don't fire bullets as you know.
BB guns are easily to obtain through internet and other places I believe still in the UK.
Our police don't even have guns unless special Police I think. All my life in UK, I have never seen a gun.
INTERESTING!!! I guess that explains why Jack The Ripper always used a knife.
Originally posted by Sprint_girl07: A9, I know you find it hard to believe or even think about a country without guns being everywhere, but guns are not allowed in the UK unless you want one for a very good reason.
Guns are not used for self protection, they are mainly used for sport or for work related jobs. Shotguns are even hard to obtain without going through checks and so on.
You can't just walk into a store and buy one.
Yes there are guns sold illegally in the UK, they are brought over from other countries somehow. Some are handmade. Some guns are stolen from people who do have licenses to have them, hence the reason why people who do have them must have them secured. In some places they are not allowed to have them at the house even if secured, they have to be kept at a secure location, like a gun sporting place.
I believe the man who got shot, was not shot with a real gun. It was a ball bearing gun (BB gun) that if not that familiar with can look very much like a firearm. They do hurt however.
They don't fire bullets as you know.
BB guns are easily to obtain through internet and other places I believe still in the UK.
Our police don't even have guns unless special Police I think. All my life in UK, I have never seen a gun.
Special tactics units are the only civilian law enforcement officers allowed in the UK to carry firearms.
But even in the U.S. most people who own firearms have good reasons such as sporting or hunting. Some have firearms, most likely handguns, for protection. And some want or desire firearms for ulterior motives. The difference between the UK and the US is not the avalibilty of the guns, but how guns are perceived by the general populace. For instance, most gun deaths in the U.S. are caused accidentally. What gets reported and sensationalized in the news media are those murder-suicide deaths or fatal burgleries or other heinous crimes. But around the world, the perception is much different; that is, a wild west lawlessness persona.
In most cases, gun control, that is to limit gun ownership to protect the society as a whole, rarely solve the problem of criminals obtaining firearms. But I do believe technology can solve this dilemma. For instance, DNA sequence fire mechanisms is one alternative for handguns. Another is specialty designed locks on firearms. And a third alternative is the so called "smart gun" which will not cause a misfire when certain conditions are not met.
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