My son is married to a Phillipino who is divorced from the man who brought her over on a Fiance Visa. He found out what we now know, She is a very selfish and hateful individual, She throws fits and screams if he even looks at her wrong (no kidding) the thing is she is illegal, visa ran out, they have a daughter together. He has offered to send her home to the phillipines and she told him he would waste his money she will not go without HER daughter, He is afraid that she will take off with the baby and he will never see her again. She said that America Owes her a citizenship because she had a baby...I think she is evil in sheeps clothing. Does anyone know his rights...If she is deported do they let her take the baby? We need answers

Your son has a child with this women, yes? Assuming that be true and she was formally married to someone else and yet to this day is illegal it begs a few questions.

The first being why is she still illegal? The first husband filed a K-1 visa and brought her here. He likely married her within the 90 day time period. From that point it would have been a simple process to acquire her proper status. For some reason that didn't occur.

Now, we have husband number 2, your son. Again, her status is something that should have been a priority and could have been rectified. It isn't but a child was produced in the process.

With her being illegal she is at the mercy of those who's house she resides in. A child that is a USC by default which she knows she can lose for life if the green and white truck shows up at the door step.

That's quite the predicament to be in. The amount of leverage and fear that can be induced at any time would require a substantial amount of restraint to not be used. Still, why hasn't your son made the effort to give her some peace of mind by correcting her status. For all you know, that might calm her down and make her a little less evil. A dog is much less apt to be vicious if it's not cornered. Wouldn't it be nice if the child had both parents? Maybe you should discuss that instead of means of disposal.

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Originally posted by USGrandma:
My son is married to a Phillipino who is divorced from the man who brought her over on a Fiance Visa. He found out what we now know, She is a very selfish and hateful individual, She throws fits and screams if he even looks at her wrong (no kidding) the thing is she is illegal, visa ran out, they have a daughter together. He has offered to send her home to the phillipines and she told him he would waste his money she will not go without HER daughter, He is afraid that she will take off with the baby and he will never see her again. She said that America Owes her a citizenship because she had a baby...I think she is evil in sheeps clothing. Does anyone know his rights...If she is deported do they let her take the baby? We need answers

How old are they? I would suggest you step out of their situation and let your son land on his two feet. He's the one who got himself in this situation, not you. I realize you love and care about your granddaughter, but there comes a time when you have to let your kids become adults and handle situations on their own. I wish the best for you, but leave it to them to handle.

If this child was born out of wedlock, chances are that the illegal mother has custody (check the state statutes)..but your son would still have at the very least visitation rights...if this visa cheat runs back to the Philippines, well, good riddance, but if she takes the kid, your son could to attempt to restore his visitation rights, and perhaps win other custodial rights in a court. As to the cheat's claim that my country owes her U.S. citizenship, well, that's just a load of lumpia...we owe her nothing.

I gotta disagree on this one. Seems to me she was asked to come and then the promises given were subsequently denied after the fact. Kind of hard to leave when half of you is still here and would likely be a life separation if she did go.

My bet is the girl is pissed, afraid, and feels objectified by the fact everyone has held the greencard promised over her head from the beginning. Two husbands and a kid and still no status that should have been given within the first few months? Something ain't right with that picture. If the guy would stop threatening to deport her, maybe, just maybe, she won't be so defensive. I wonder what sort of things she has had to endure beyond the verbal assaults of this family.

Someone12:wowowow, u are still around, where have you been man, we couldn’t have fresh air without your valuable comments in here,

USGrandma : your son already got his right top- bottom or bottom-up from this woman every single day he smoked her up on bed, she was the one who was taking the **** out of his *** and now you want to deport her ***, and btw, that woman is so smart, she wants the baby because this is how she will smoke your son wallet, smart lady, if she is looking for a third husband, i have two close friends and they happen to be power members of this website, the priority goes to my buddy Someone12 and if luck runs out then Son of Michael wil be my best bet. How I wish to see all of them on Jerry show’

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If this child was born out of wedlock, chances are that the illegal mother has custody (check the state statutes)..but your son would still have at the very least visitation rights...if this visa cheat runs back to the Philippines, well, good riddance, but if she takes the kid, your son could to attempt to restore his visitation rights, and perhaps win other custodial rights in a court. As to the cheat's claim that my country owes her U.S. citizenship, well, that's just a load of lumpia...we owe her nothing.

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I have to agree with Davdah on this.

Something ain't right. And I can imagine how she must be feeling with a child and all.

This is a childs life here we are talking about, no matter how you feel about the mother.
She is desperate anyone would be. I sure wouldn't want to separate from my child. It is best to find a way for everyone's sakes here.

How are ya, hahahahahah

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I have to agree with Davdah on this.

Something ain't right. And I can imagine how she must be feeling with a child and all.

This is a childs life here we are talking about, no matter how you feel about the mother.
She is desperate anyone would be. I sure wouldn't want to separate from my child. It is best to find a way for everyone's sakes here.

Ok thanks, hope all is well with you

The father needs to get custody of the child, then report her to ICE. Get a divorce as well.

For Some from afar do not even Think, Rationalize, Like Many Others can Imagine.
No right or wrong, Just Games! Too many Possabilities! That USC child In the here and now free ticket for Mom whether bad or good.

She will gain from the divorce, If Citizenship was primary goal, she will create Violent situation and Blame husband for abuse. Quickest Way. Regardless, she most likely will b ecome custodial parent. Being Illegal in USA No longer matters to The System.

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I think the cultural behavior in GENERAL drive people motivation to establish life time commitment and be a person who can share faith and values and be family oriented person. the bottom line in this country is Time and Money and as they change, people change with them, this is why people end up killing their loved ones and and and, because they have no background of establishment they can base their standards on, getting married to someone who never been born or raised in the country is a 50 50 risk u might take when u have no choice but being home alone walking your family dog on the beach and ending up blaming the world for how isolated person you are. for me, i would never trust a worth of dime chance to marry from here, when time comes and i find my luck, i need to establish the bond of my family somewhere where the cultural behavior will be a less risk factor and be Compatible for makes me and my wife be stable mentally and physically and this is the main problem in North America, ppl can kill each others for a dime because they only think by the value not by the consequences. above and beyond, your son is on Trial to test how solid he can be with taking care of this professionally and i am under the assumption that he still can walk and talk and he is healthy, so believe me, anything else can be dealt with and you know what, lets assume she will be American Citizen, let her have fun with it, do your homework and draft a letter to the INS explaining the motive u fear and let them take care of her.

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Originally posted by USGrandma:
My son is married to a Phillipino who is divorced from the man who brought her over on a Fiance Visa. He found out what we now know, She is a very selfish and hateful individual, She throws fits and screams if he even looks at her wrong (no kidding) the thing is she is illegal, visa ran out, they have a daughter together. He has offered to send her home to the phillipines and she told him he would waste his money she will not go without HER daughter, He is afraid that she will take off with the baby and he will never see her again. She said that America Owes her a citizenship because she had a baby...I think she is evil in sheeps clothing. Does anyone know his rights...If she is deported do they let her take the baby? We need answers

It never ceases to amaze me how foreign women become "disposible items" when love doesn't work out. How would your son handle the situation if the woman involved were an American woman? Would he just dump her by the side of the road? I think we can easily say, that there are emotional/irrational individuals (if she indeed is such), that show protective behaviorism when threatened to be removed or separated from their children. It is beyond me, why people don't understand that this is an innate motherly behavior found in humans as well as in animals (I for one vowed to take on ex husband and INS for the sake of my children). No clear thinking mother separates easily from a child and if threatened to be separated, whatever feelings do come to the fore are in my opinion adorable and most justified. Try and do this to a lion or polar bear mother - they'll eat you!

My advice: Forget that she is Illegal Phillipino, just see her as a mother.

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Originally posted by USGrandma:
My son is married to a Phillipino who is divorced from the man who brought her over on a Fiance Visa. He found out what we now know, She is a very selfish and hateful individual, She throws fits and screams if he even looks at her wrong (no kidding) the thing is she is illegal, visa ran out, they have a daughter together. He has offered to send her home to the phillipines and she told him he would waste his money she will not go without HER daughter, He is afraid that she will take off with the baby and he will never see her again. She said that America Owes her a citizenship because she had a baby...I think she is evil in sheeps clothing. Does anyone know his rights...If she is deported do they let her take the baby? We need answers

It never ceases to amaze me how foreign women become "disposible items" when love doesn't work out. How would your son handle the situation if the woman involved were an American woman? Would he just dump her by the side of the road? I think we can easily say, that there are emotional/irrational individuals (if she indeed is such), that show protective behaviorism when threatened to be removed or separated from their children. It is beyond me, why people don't understand that this is an innate motherly behavior found in humans as well as in animals (I for one vowed to take on ex husband and INS for the sake of my children). No clear thinking mother separates easily from a child and if threatened to be separated, whatever feelings do come to the fore are in my opinion adorable and most justified. Try and do this to a lion or polar bear mother - they'll eat you!

My advice: Forget that she is Illegal Phillipino, just see her as a mother.

this would be the Normal thinking Some BAD people Expect!! Is why they do it.

The vietcong Used their children as Compassion BO MBS!!! CHILDREN!!! still today being used as tools, Not as extreme, Still IMMORAL!!!!
Unthinkable = Why they do it!!

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Originally posted by USGrandma:
My son is married to a Phillipino who is divorced from the man who brought her over on a Fiance Visa. He found out what we now know, She is a very selfish and hateful individual, She throws fits and screams if he even looks at her wrong (no kidding) the thing is she is illegal, visa ran out, they have a daughter together. He has offered to send her home to the phillipines and she told him he would waste his money she will not go without HER daughter, He is afraid that she will take off with the baby and he will never see her again. She said that America Owes her a citizenship because she had a baby...I think she is evil in sheeps clothing. Does anyone know his rights...If she is deported do they let her take the baby? We need answers

It never ceases to amaze me how foreign women become "disposible items" when love doesn't work out. How would your son handle the situation if the woman involved were an American woman? Would he just dump her by the side of the road? I think we can easily say, that there are emotional/irrational individuals (if she indeed is such), that show protective behaviorism when threatened to be removed or separated from their children. It is beyond me, why people don't understand that this is an innate motherly behavior found in humans as well as in animals (I for one vowed to take on ex husband and INS for the sake of my children). No clear thinking mother separates easily from a child and if threatened to be separated, whatever feelings do come to the fore are in my opinion adorable and most justified. Try and do this to a lion or polar bear mother - they'll eat you!

My advice: Forget that she is Illegal Phillipino, just see her as a mother.

this would be the Normal thinking Some BAD people Expect!! Is why they do it.

The vietcong Used their children as Compassion BO MBS!!! CHILDREN!!! still today being used as tools, Not as extreme, Still IMMORAL!!!!
Unthinkable = Why they do it!!

What are Compassion Bombs? Like putting children in the line of fire????

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Originally posted by USGrandma:
My son is married to a Phillipino who is divorced from the man who brought her over on a Fiance Visa. He found out what we now know, She is a very selfish and hateful individual, She throws fits and screams if he even looks at her wrong (no kidding) the thing is she is illegal, visa ran out, they have a daughter together. He has offered to send her home to the phillipines and she told him he would waste his money she will not go without HER daughter, He is afraid that she will take off with the baby and he will never see her again. She said that America Owes her a citizenship because she had a baby...I think she is evil in sheeps clothing. Does anyone know his rights...If she is deported do they let her take the baby? We need answers

It never ceases to amaze me how foreign women become "disposible items" when love doesn't work out. How would your son handle the situation if the woman involved were an American woman? Would he just dump her by the side of the road? I think we can easily say, that there are emotional/irrational individuals (if she indeed is such), that show protective behaviorism when threatened to be removed or separated from their children. It is beyond me, why people don't understand that this is an innate motherly behavior found in humans as well as in animals (I for one vowed to take on ex husband and INS for the sake of my children). No clear thinking mother separates easily from a child and if threatened to be separated, whatever feelings do come to the fore are in my opinion adorable and most justified. Try and do this to a lion or polar bear mother - they'll eat you!

My advice: Forget that she is Illegal Phillipino, just see her as a mother.

this would be the Normal thinking Some BAD people Expect!! Is why they do it.

The vietcong Used their children as Compassion BO MBS!!! CHILDREN!!! still today being used as tools, Not as extreme, Still IMMORAL!!!!
Unthinkable = Why they do it!!

What are Compassion Bombs? Like putting children in the line of fire????

straping bom bs to children to greet un suspecting soldiers. 3,4,5,6,7 year old kids.
who would ever expect??? thinking has not changed much. many still succeed in using children as tools.

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MIR, quit pole-vaulting to extremes. Your analogy is ridiculous and your experience is not the same as everybody elses.

The fact of the matter is that this girls first husband never bothered to do anything about her status and her new husband, the OP's son, hasn't bothered either. Not only has he not done anything, he's threatening to send her away without her child and along with his family, are considering having her deported, so her status is something that is being held over her head. The poor girl is probably terrified and if she lashes out, then it's in response to the threats being made against her. This situation would make a VAWA case a walk through.

To the OP, custodial matters are not an immigration issue. It is up to a family court judge to decide what is best for their baby.

On a more personal note, I'd suggest you step back from the situation and put yourself in her shoes. What would your reaction be if somebody was threatening to separate you from YOUR child? It's obvious from your response to your son's situation that you probably wouldn't behave too much differently if you were faced with what your daughter-in-law is faced with.

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Originally posted by Aroha:
MIR, quit pole-vaulting to extremes. Your analogy is ridiculous and your experience is not the same as everybody elses.

The fact of the matter is that this girls first husband never bothered to do anything about her status and her new husband, the OP's son, hasn't bothered either. Not only has he not done anything, he's threatening to send her away without her child and along with his family, are considering having her deported, so her status is something that is being held over her head. The poor girl is probably terrified and if she lashes out, then it's in response to the threats being made against her. This situation would make a VAWA case a walk through.

To the OP, custodial matters are not an immigration issue. It is up to a family court judge to decide what is best for their baby.

On a more personal note, I'd suggest you step back from the situation and put yourself in her shoes. What would your reaction be if somebody was threatening to separate you from YOUR child? It's obvious from your response to your son's situation that you probably wouldn't behave too much differently if you were faced with what your daughter-in-law is faced with.

quote: She said that America Owes her a citizenship because she had a baby"

I Know way more than you think!!! You and others may be Ignorant to the Entire Situation. Pinay scared???? LOL. Already fooled you. She would not be afraid of anything or anyone here in USA. She may be afraid of her family or relatives for failing to plant the seed here!!!!! That is where it becomes serious!!

Are you 100% certain that everything that's reported, third hand, is actual fact and that those are the exact words used?

You really should quit taking out your bitterness against one woman and her family out on an entire race of people. And just so we're clear, I'm not saying it for your benefit. You'll continue your drinking and your racism no matter what I or others think. I"m saying it so that others that believe they have an ally in you know the facts.

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Are you 100% certain that everything that's reported, third hand, is actual fact and that those are the exact words used? These words are Common Place!!! USA OWES Them!!! Why???? This is what I have yet to discover. USA and PH have been hand in hand in many situations, Yet Many of PH have very little respect for Americans! Why??? USA only helped!!! This you will not see on the surface, yet this Is the TRUE attitude on the Inside!!!

You really should quit taking out your bitterness against one woman and her family out on an entire race of people. And just so we're clear, I'm not saying it for your benefit. You'll continue your drinking and your racism no matter what I or others think. I"m saying it so that others that believe they have an ally in you know the facts.

One Woman???? Years of Intensive Research Within Certain Cultures! Not Hearsay, Media Projections, Nor The Protections Portrayed By Some. 2 Understandings. Real Life Street Worthy Experience and Investigation Or You Read about it. Which one would you trust your life with????

Not One!!! Many!!! Sigi Na?????
Racists Do not usually Marry those that us Racists are Prejudice of!!! Just the Facts!!! Many cannot believe or comprehend the ways of other cultures so they Call those of Experience and Research Prejudice!!!

Before you Pretend to Interpret or Understand, Pay a Visit to Cebu, Luzon, Manila. Very poor or very wealthy, Nothing in the middle!!! Life = Games, manipulation, Deceit To Survive! Even within the family!!! Survival and way of life becomes survival were Lies and cheating become common place!!! Part of life in PH!!!

Roman Catholic in PH Is far Beyond Most other RC could Comprehend! Mixture of Roman Catholic and Voodoo!!! All mixed in Together!

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