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quote: Originally posted by tara_davis:
I agree makeitright , but no one have the right to attack him , he is an american and this is a free country and that was his choice and we should all give him a break.
Love Throughout Life Brings the greatest pains and mistakes! The Poster has Received More Than the Average compassion Here!!! As I Have mentioned In The Past!  Many of Those On Discussion Boards Have Purposes Only Known To selves! There Is a difference Between Giving a Break and Breaking Him In!!!  . A Suggestion? Do Not fight Too Diligently With Those Here You Do Not Approve Of! . Many Have Been and Can Be very HARSH! Not Always What you See On The Surface.
USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
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quote: Originally posted by tara_davis:
I think you guys should just leave this guy alone !!!
Very good advice!!!!!!!!
Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
(Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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who is attacking him? show me one post ? so you call the truth attack? i still believe this guy is a fraudseter regardless of what anybody thinks and the fact that hes only 18 is not an excuse ,if he was an illegal alien i bet you that you will be the first one to attack him but bcoz hes citizen everybody are making excuses and covering for him
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i support the people who entered the country illegaly to survive and help their familys,not those lazy ppl who takes money and when they get dumped they start complaining and say fraud
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quote: even if that illegal action involves wrecking a citizens life which is often the case. Directly or indirectly it happens in most cases. If it be the GC scamming mail order bride or the drywaller from Mexico working for minimum wage. They both hurt the citizens of this country.
poor, poor citizen. His life is wrecked - he is FORCED to work at the tender age of 19, instead of receiving gifts and money off women... And unheard of thing, WORK! And the people HE managed to scam, so PITIFUL working in - fie fie - some dirty places for minimum wages, why didn't they manage to earn more to buy him MORE gifts? Instead, they stop paying him all of a sudden, bad, wicked manipulators! Second rate human beings! To manipulate like this a superior being, who does not bother to work, a US CITIZEN. |
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Misdirected. I wasn't speaking about the OP specifically. For him I recommend he help to get her prosecuted. What I spoke of was in general terms the damage caused by illegals who are intent on getting status or being here at any cost. That cost is usually payed for by someone who is here legally. A travesty of justice. One that must and will soon stop.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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| Posts: 8834 | Location: San Diego, or near by. | Registered: 06-08-2007 | |
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No, I don't think he will. He didn't follow through with any of it. Accepted a bunch of gifts which were meant to buy is cooperation. Did he marry her? No. In order for there to be a criminal contract there needs to be an offer and an acceptance. Along with a bargained for exchange. He took the payment but didn't deliver. In one sense he burnt her. Otherwise sting operations conducted by the police would make the police guilty. Although he knew about it that in of itself is not a crime. Just like he still knows. He has a moral and civic duty to report it though. What makes me very suspect about this is her status and reason for doing this. She is already here. She got here legally somehow. In the normal course of events there are ways to become legal without this exaggerated drama. I think there is something else going on. A much bigger picture.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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| Posts: 8834 | Location: San Diego, or near by. | Registered: 06-08-2007 | |
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Hmmmm Davdah..he did marry her! He thought he was married..until she told him days later that the paperwork was incomplete and she wanted out. So, sorry..he went through the ceremony..he thought he was married.. so yes he did go through with it.. she didn't. But hey..he is a USC.. he can be forgiven and not seen as a fraud or did no wrong.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God Bless America - God Bless Immigrants - God Bless Poor Misguided Souls Too  National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1.800.799.SAFE (7233) 1.800.787.3224 (TTY) Anonymous & Confidential Help 24/7 |
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Until its done, its not done. She married someone else. So his attempt can be no more than an attempted conspiracy at best. Still some guilt there but not the same as what she and the other guy did. Thinking you did something doesn't equate the crime. I'm just concerned of the possible greater crime being committed. If she just wanted a GC she would only have needed to use the gift of feminine charm. Since she went way beyond that it makes me wonder about the bigger prize she was getting.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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| Posts: 8834 | Location: San Diego, or near by. | Registered: 06-08-2007 | |
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There's too many discrepancies to his story, Davdah. You don't have to sign that much paperwork to get married, so what was missed? And you can't obtain a license in one state and have it 'finalized' in another so what's all this talk of Las Vegas? It sounds to me like he's not being honest. He's either one of our regular troll dolls or he's just pissed that he's not getting the big payday that was promised.
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| Posts: 1485 | Location: Las Vegas | Registered: 07-29-2007 | |
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quote: I'm just concerned of the possible greater crime being committed. If she just wanted a GC she would only have needed to use the gift of feminine charm. Since she went way beyond that it makes me wonder about the bigger prize she was getting.
If you're so concerned about it, why not do something about it? Go and join the Minutemen or ALIPAC or something? I thought the Repubs were like that. All action do something about it type?
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move - Douglas Adams
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quote: Originally posted by Brit4064: quote: I'm just concerned of the possible greater crime being committed. If she just wanted a GC she would only have needed to use the gift of feminine charm. Since she went way beyond that it makes me wonder about the bigger prize she was getting.
If you're so concerned about it, why not do something about it? Go and join the Minutemen or ALIPAC or something? I thought the Repubs were like that. All action do something about it type?
This Is a Serious Issue!!!! It Is Taking Place In Great Numbers Within This Country!!!! Making It More Difficult For Immigrants and USC alike!!!! Greedy USC and Greedy Immigrant!!!! How To Make This Go Away??????
USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
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quote: Originally posted by Brit4064: quote: I'm just concerned of the possible greater crime being committed. If she just wanted a GC she would only have needed to use the gift of feminine charm. Since she went way beyond that it makes me wonder about the bigger prize she was getting.
If you're so concerned about it, why not do something about it? Go and join the Minutemen or ALIPAC or something? I thought the Repubs were like that. All action do something about it type?
You missed it. Here is a clue. This is my suspicion. And how do you know I don't do anything about it?
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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| Posts: 8834 | Location: San Diego, or near by. | Registered: 06-08-2007 | |
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quote: Misdirected. I wasn't speaking about the OP specifically. For him I recommend he help to get her prosecuted.
sure, sure, the milch cow stopped the cash supplies and gifts - so she must be prosecuted! How dared she, bad foreign woman! Perchance he would have to WORK FOR HIS LIVING now... quote: He took the payment but didn't deliver. In one sense he burnt her. Otherwise sting operations conducted by the police would make the police guilty
he is not the police, he is a scammer or a con artist, choose what suits you best. he picks up foreign women, and hints at first and offer marriage afterwards in exchange of gifts. When he receives money and gifts, he states a fake marriage ceremony - which is against the law in itself. Then he says that he "changed his mind" and "did not sign all the papers". With this one it backfired. He tried to blackmail her for more gifts, after her marriage, she threatened him with the police. The great being of UNITED STATES CITIZEN felt threatened, so he came here to test waters and reaction - what if he tries to get rid of her by calling the immigration? That is why he mentioned the bribe - otherwise he would have said just "she was bad, went away with other man, she was after citizenship only", as they all do. He knew that the issue of money will arise sooner or later. If he is so "conscientious" why didn't he returned the bribes? As for reporting her, immigration receives thousands of calls from disgruntled exes, who decided to "get revenge". The woman was checked by immigration, found clean record, granted the residency. If this enterprising gigolo tries to spoil her normal life with a normal man, she should sue him for harassment, blackmail and libel. She should ask for her gifts back, too. Go get a job, and work for your living, dear, or you will very soon end in prison for your activities. |
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quote: Originally posted by moi: quote: Misdirected. I wasn't speaking about the OP specifically. For him I recommend he help to get her prosecuted.
sure, sure, the milch cow stopped the cash supplies and gifts - so she must be prosecuted! How dared she, bad foreign woman! Perchance he would have to WORK FOR HIS LIVING now... quote: He took the payment but didn't deliver. In one sense he burnt her. Otherwise sting operations conducted by the police would make the police guilty
he is not the police, he is a scammer or a con artist, choose what suits you best. he picks up foreign women, and hints at first and offer marriage afterwards in exchange of gifts. When he receives money and gifts, he states a fake marriage ceremony - which is against the law in itself. Then he says that he "changed his mind" and "did not sign all the papers". With this one it backfired. He tried to blackmail her for more gifts, after her marriage, she threatened him with the police. The great being of UNITED STATES CITIZEN felt threatened, so he came here to test waters and reaction - what if he tries to get rid of her by calling the immigration? That is why he mentioned the bribe - otherwise he would have said just "she was bad, went away with other man, she was after citizenship only", as they all do. He knew that the issue of money will arise sooner or later. If he is so "conscientious" why didn't he returned the bribes? As for reporting her, immigration receives thousands of calls from disgruntled exes, who decided to "get revenge". The woman was checked by immigration, found clean record, granted the residency. If this enterprising gigolo tries to spoil her normal life with a normal man, she should sue him for harassment, blackmail and libel. She should ask for her gifts back, too. Go get a job, and work for your living, dear, or you will very soon end in prison for your activities.
Interesting!!!! Just Located yet another Scammer!!! moi!!!! Protection Of One self By Reversing the Situation. Projecting The Situation To Relieve The Attention On Self! I Will Soon Need another Black Book And more Stars If This continues!!!
USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
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MOI, illegal alien/Child Smuggler sympathiser, who probably is one himself. Doesn't know how to read either. Probably was burned by a USC. Or I should say had justice served on him. We as Americans need to guard our country collectively against this sort of criminal element. Do the right thing OP and insure prosecution. Moi would rather see kids sold on the black market than his accomplice be denied a GC.
The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.
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| Posts: 8834 | Location: San Diego, or near by. | Registered: 06-08-2007 | |
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First of all, the car was given to me before she ever asked me to marry her. Second the only time she ever said, "In return for marrying me, I'll do this...", was when she said she would pay for my school. She didn't pay for my school, regardless I have no proof of this. Besides, I said no you don't have to. The things she did buy me, I believe, were a plot from the beginning. She used *** and money at the beginning, so later on I would be almost forced to say yes. I am not mad about not receiving "gifts" or however you want to put it. I am only mad that she was using me, and once she found out by the lawyer that I couldn't be used, she left me. However, I'm going to take davdah's advice and give an anonymous tip about her marriage, and the agency that helped them get married. This agency, once again, is a immigrant fraud agency. From my understandings they can help an immigrant specifically marry someone for a green card through a "dating service". Supposedly, to allow the marriage to go through faster, they also submit the marriage form/request to Las Vegas. Does that sound hard to believe? I just assumed everything that occurred to be reality.
A lot of people suspect she is still married, seeing as it supposedly took her 2-3 months to finalize her divorce.
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