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Probably not. Many Asian countries don't recognize divorce at all. Philippines is one that I know of. You might want to do a google search on that subject.

Don't assume any of what she told you is true. The marriage claim could have been a ruse for something even more nefarious. There is a large network of people bringing kids into this country for exploitative purposes. Many from that part of the world.

Where did she get the money from to buy the things she did? Did you ever see her at work? What line of work was she in? Did it look legitimate? Follow the money and that will lead to the truth.




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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Thanks. Assuming she did file for divorce when she told me, is it really possible to get a foreign divorce from Korea that quickly?


Bottom line....you are a part of the fraud period!
 
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Perhaps he was at first. But if this is something even bigger it deserves to be rectified. Even if it is by someone who's hands aren't completely clean.




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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Perhaps he was at first


You don't cheat or lie to the gov.!
If he's a USC .... what a shame!!
 
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Probably not. Many Asian countries don't recognize divorce at all. Philippines is one that I know of. You might want to do a google search on that subject.

Don't assume any of what she told you is true. The marriage claim could have been a ruse for something even more nefarious. There is a large network of people bringing kids into this country for exploitative purposes. Many from that part of the world.

Where did she get the money from to buy the things she did? Did you ever see her at work? What line of work was she in? Did it look legitimate? Follow the money and that will lead to the truth.

Davdah,
Many Asian countries do recognize divorce (China, Korea, Thailand, Japan, India, etc); howver, perhaps what you meant is that in many Asian countries, divorice is not socially accepted. Big difference.

Again, it amazes me that individuals who marry willingly to a foreign national and that marriage does not work out will claim marriage fraud first. In many cases, the USC uses ulterior motives for marriage. However, in some cases, marriage fraud does exist.


"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
 
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i dont care if this guy does not like what am going to say but yes he is fraud from the begining and still is until this moment. the fact that he said yes from day one to marry her and take money form her is fraud . and whatever started wrong will stay wrong forever,,no exeptions, if he really loved her like he claimed he will not take a dime from her and will not accept her gifts,he would have say no i love you and i will get a job like a real mana dn take care of you , and now when she dumped him he wants to accuse her for fraud and he is the fraudster from day one. why she wasn't fraudster for almost a year when he was taking money and gifts from her? but this is the same song that most of the u.s citizens sings when they get divorce or if the relation did not work for a reason or another, oh!!! she/he is fraud and they just wanted me for the green card and they abused me bla bla bla ,sos he told him i will bring my husband over and my 15 year old son and he did not know it was fraud? whatever ok , he is fraud and he deserve to be in jail and he will be digging his owen grave if he calls the immigration . his whole story does not make sense anyway and why is he hiding and changing dates and country's names and i dont know what if he was a victim?? i would say it loud in the street if i was in his setuation and who cares if she read it or not , he is hiding something and hes just trying to get some help here and there to screw her but he will screw him self first.



 
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If I were you Mr. F I'd cut all ties with her ASAP and would not follow up on the ICE call simply because if they do catch up with her, she could well implicate you in the plot also. Remember she did pay for a lot of your stuff. Of course, the new hubby might well find out about it later and take action against her too.

Forget it, move on and chalk it up as one of life's banana skins (and don't make the same mistake twice).


In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move - Douglas Adams
 
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ask him if she was giving him cash money or checks or money order and i bet you she did , she is not stupid if hes telling the truth ,she have evidence againts him and she will screw him if he open his mouth



 
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Kid, everyone does something wrong sometime in their life at least once. If I were you, probably will report her and move on with my own life.
 
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Kid, everyone does something wrong sometime in their life at least once. If I were you, probably will report her and move on with my own life.


The only thing I ever did wrong was to be too nice. That's my greatest weakness. I am too nice.
 
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The only thing I ever did wrong was to be too nice. That's my greatest weakness. I am too nice.


No good deed goes unpunished..2banghead..just look at ya,


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Originally posted by davdah:
Probably not. Many Asian countries don't recognize divorce at all. Philippines is one that I know of. You might want to do a google search on that subject.

Don't assume any of what she told you is true. The marriage claim could have been a ruse for something even more nefarious. There is a large network of people bringing kids into this country for exploitative purposes. Many from that part of the world.

Where did she get the money from to buy the things she did? Did you ever see her at work? What line of work was she in? Did it look legitimate? Follow the money and that will lead to the truth.

Davdah,
Many Asian countries do recognize divorce (China, Korea, Thailand, Japan, India, etc); howver, perhaps what you meant is that in many Asian countries, divorice is not socially accepted. Big difference.

Again, it amazes me that individuals who marry willingly to a foreign national and that marriage does not work out will claim marriage fraud first. In many cases, the USC uses ulterior motives for marriage. However, in some cases, marriage fraud does exist.


NO DIVORCE IN PHILIPPINES HUDSON!!!! Only Annulments! And Extremely Difficult to Get, Trust Me! Wink. Every Single Asian Culture Is Different In the Rules. Korea, Japan, China, Etc. Philippines = NO DIVORCE!!!! Even If One Comes To USA and Gets married then divorces In USA, Still Considered Married If Returning To Philippines!!!! They Don't Care If USA Granted A Divorce! Still Married If They Go Back.


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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Originally posted by Hudson:
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Originally posted by davdah:
Probably not. Many Asian countries don't recognize divorce at all. Philippines is one that I know of. You might want to do a google search on that subject.

Don't assume any of what she told you is true. The marriage claim could have been a ruse for something even more nefarious. There is a large network of people bringing kids into this country for exploitative purposes. Many from that part of the world.

Where did she get the money from to buy the things she did? Did you ever see her at work? What line of work was she in? Did it look legitimate? Follow the money and that will lead to the truth.

Davdah,
Many Asian countries do recognize divorce (China, Korea, Thailand, Japan, India, etc); howver, perhaps what you meant is that in many Asian countries, divorice is not socially accepted. Big difference.

Again, it amazes me that individuals who marry willingly to a foreign national and that marriage does not work out will claim marriage fraud first. In many cases, the USC uses ulterior motives for marriage. However, in some cases, marriage fraud does exist.


NO DIVORCE IN PHILIPPINES HUDSON!!!! Only Extremely difficult to get Annulments! Trust Me! Wink. Every Single Asian Culture Is Different In the Rules. Korea, Japan, China, Etc.


Hudson didn't mention the Philippines as a country where divorce was possible. Only annulments are possible in the Philippines. So, why is it so backward there?


Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.
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Originally posted by MakeItRight!:
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Originally posted by Hudson:
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Originally posted by davdah:
Probably not. Many Asian countries don't recognize divorce at all. Philippines is one that I know of. You might want to do a google search on that subject.

Don't assume any of what she told you is true. The marriage claim could have been a ruse for something even more nefarious. There is a large network of people bringing kids into this country for exploitative purposes. Many from that part of the world.

Where did she get the money from to buy the things she did? Did you ever see her at work? What line of work was she in? Did it look legitimate? Follow the money and that will lead to the truth.

Davdah,
Many Asian countries do recognize divorce (China, Korea, Thailand, Japan, India, etc); howver, perhaps what you meant is that in many Asian countries, divorice is not socially accepted. Big difference.

Again, it amazes me that individuals who marry willingly to a foreign national and that marriage does not work out will claim marriage fraud first. In many cases, the USC uses ulterior motives for marriage. However, in some cases, marriage fraud does exist.


NO DIVORCE IN PHILIPPINES HUDSON!!!! Only Extremely difficult to get Annulments! Trust Me! Wink. Every Single Asian Culture Is Different In the Rules. Korea, Japan, China, Etc.


Hudson didn't mention the Philippines as a country where divorce was possible. Only annulments are possible in the Philippines. So, why is it so backward there?


2ack2 no Comment. Except Is 85% Catholic Within The Laws, and religion Takes Precedence Over all!


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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She did buy me those gifts because she said she wanted to "help me". She never gave me any checks or money orders. Those were bought before she informed me of her husband and son and the whole marriage thing. She used money and *** to manipulate me, and once she found out I was too young to marry she left me on the side of the road. btw she works in the medical field.

Mike you really aren't listening. I changed some of the facts at first just in case the marriage facility comes to forums like this, I mean it is a pretty big scheme. Second, when I said I would marry her, it wasn't for money. She said her family was in debt in Korea, and she needed to work here to make more money to support them. I wanted to help her, so I said yes. I wanted to help at least a little compared to how she helped me. I was being manipulated to the fullest, and that is why I am angry. She never loved me, she only wanted a green card.
 
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Mr F, you got F'd. Like I said. You got drawn into it and were manipulated. True, you have some culpability for your actions. But the reality is you only volunteered to help but did'nt actually do anything.

Regardless her story. Its probably BS. For her to have gotten here at all and be working, assuming its legal leaves open a lot of questions. In most cases if that happens there are numerous ways to become legal without having to pull a scam like this. There is more to the story than your'e being told..

Its why I said there is probably something else a lot more illegal going on. If you walk away because you share a small amount of guilt its far worse since you have the capability of stopping it now. Its like not reporting a bank robbery just because you didn't give back the pen when you last cashed your check there.




The moment you capitulate to lawlessness you've lost your civility.

 
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You've got options as pointed out by the posters here Mr. F, so it's really up to you. I remember a group here who banded together who are more or less in the same situation as yours, NeedHelpVictim is the name of one of them.

Since you mentioned divorce, the Phils. is definitely not the country of origin of this ex of yours. Not that it matters, I just wanted to correct this post:
"Even If One Comes To USA and Gets married then divorces In USA, Still Considered Married If Returning To Philippines!!!! They Don't Care If USA Granted A Divorce! Still Married If They Go Back."

The correct answer is - It depends. The Phils. adheres to the nationality principle with regard to this matter.


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You've got options as pointed out by the posters here Mr. F, so it's really up to you. I remember a group here who banded together who are more or less in the same situation as yours, NeedHelpVictim is the name of one of them.

Since you mentioned divorce, the Phils. is definitely not the country of origin of this ex of yours. Not that it matters, I just wanted to correct this post:
"Even If One Comes To USA and Gets married then divorces In USA, Still Considered Married If Returning To Philippines!!!! They Don't Care If USA Granted A Divorce! Still Married If They Go Back."

The correct answer is - It depends. The Phils. adheres to the nationality principle with regard to this matter.


nationality Principle????

Nevermind! Big Grin I don't Wanna get started on This.

Hi Mrs. B. Big Grin

P.S. Do Not Compare The Victim Posters Here With This Poster or Situation! VERY DIFFERENT!!! THNX. Smile

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USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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I think you guys should just leave this guy alone !!!
 
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I think you guys should just leave this guy alone !!!


This guy should just move On, With What has Been Learned From The Experience. At 19 a Learning Experience with MANY Years Ahead to concentrate On.


USC and Legal, Honest Immigrant Alike Must Fight Against Those That Deceive and Disrupt A Place Of Desirability! All Are Victims of Fraud, Both USC and Honest Immigrant Alike! The bad can and does make it more difficult for the good! Be careful who you blame!!!
kami ay nanonood!!!
 
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