Ok, I have a big problem, and I dont know what to do about it. Me and my boyfriend are both 22 years old. I am an american citizen, and hes from egypt. We have been together for about 6 months, everything was going good, we were planning on getting married, but I had recently found out that he has been married for about a year to a woman who is twice his age, solely for green card purposes. I have been so upset about this, but he told me that he loves me, and that he wants to marry me after his 2 years is over. His wife has 3 children by another man, is on welfare, and he says that hes never slept with her or nothing of that nature. He has already been married for one year, but hasnt had an interview for his gc. One of my family members is his sponsor, and thats how I found out. They dont live together, either. What could happen to me if immigration finds out about this? What could happen to him? Is it possible that he could divorce her and marry me before their 2 years are up?

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Originally posted by jennifer1184:
What could happen to me if immigration finds out about this?

You were not involved in that little arrangament, were you? And right now you don't have legal ties with the man. So, if it comes to worse you may be asked what you know and how you've learned about it. This is my logic, but to be completely sure you may want to check it with someone else.

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Originally posted by jennifer1184: What could happen to him ?

He can be charged with fraud and deported.

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Originally posted by jennifer1184: Is it possible that he could divorce her and marry me before their 2 years are up?

Yes, it's possible... but think 10 times before you venture into the marriage with a person who was able to do what you decribed. If you marry your boyfriend, you'll end up sponsoring him for GC. During that process the question of the purpose of his first marriage may come up...

Run your story and worries by an immigration lawyer...and maybe someone else you trust. Love is blind.

if i was you... just send him a letter...

GO HELL

how can you be this stupid? This clown is using you and you are dumb enough to fall for him? Why? Are there no American men suitable for you? This **** is just a green card seeking slime.....tell him to climb back on his camel and head for the desert.

While it's true that the age difference and even the affair may trigger a more in-depth questioning at the time of the interview they are not, by themselves, grounds for denial. However, there's a huge thing here that the OP seems to be ignoring, this guy has confessed he entered into a sham marriage! The confession alone may serve to deny his application for adjustment of status if he continues to pursue it. It's also possible that the alien entered into a real marriage that deteriorated to a point beyond repair. In that case, the fact that the marriage is no longer viable is immaterial to the bona-fide intent of the couple. Some people lie regarding the substance of a marriage when engaged in extra-marital relationships and the courts know that.
If the confession holds true and this person never intended to live with his wife while trying to obtain adjustment of status then he's committing a felony and the OP appears to be playing along; his conduct is shameful to say the least, damaging to thousands of others who have a real marriage and are forced to endure hardships and very stressful situations when it's time to prove the bona-fide intent of the relationship.
If the so-called husband is actually engaged in marriage fraud he will be denied all possible immigration benefits now and in the future, removed and probably prosecuted. Marriage is a sacred institution and those who commit fraud should be punished severely.
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Thanks I appreciate everyones advice, no matter what it is. I just feel bad about the entire situation, I have spoken to his wife before on the telephone, and she seems to be somewhat of a nice person, but I just dont understand why a woman who has so much to lose (3 kids) would do such a thing. I know that I should probably tell him to go **** himself because of all this, but I love him so much, I just dont know what to do. Also, my family knows and they are very leery of him, also because he is a muslim. btw what is OP?

OP=Original Poster......my suggestion, for what it is worth, is to dump this j e r k at the speed of light....he is a scam artist, and statistically speaking, he will abuse you nine ways from Sunday shortly after any marriage you enter into with him....sounds like bad news from start to finish....he is using you, soon will be abusing you, while he spends time with his 'friends' who have scammed their way to the US, to engage in who-knows-what kind of behavior. Muslim men are not kind to women....period. You are viewed as something less than camel **** to these clowns.
Good luck and I hope you end this 'relationship' tomorrow (if not sooner).

I'm very sorry to say the marriage described has the dark stink of fraud. There's things that aliens in illegal status cannot not do in terms of paperwork. It's understandable that such aliens are excluded from some family petitions, and it's even understandable that some aliens are unable to open bank accounts until they receive an EAD permitting them to obtain some form of identification. The trail of paper evidence may be weaker in some cases and stronger in many others.
But the core of the matter is the intention of the couple to live together as husband and wife. While paper evidence may be hard to come by for some couples, USCIS usually applies special interviewing techniques to determine if the couple actually live together, if they now each other, if they entered into the marriage for purposes other than immigration law alone.
In this case however, there's extra-marital relationships out in the open, express declarations of intent by the alien and ample evidence that the spouses do not care for the integrity of the marriage. The marriage is also too young to be declared bona-fide as a relationship that stood the test of time.
The OP makes a comment on the wife that relates to ethics, and I agree, but also the same applies to the husband. Both are engaged in very questionable activities. But what about the sponsor? The sponsor is by no means off-the-hook as he or she may be charged with a conspiracy to commit marriage fraud.
One thing is that the courts have stated that aliens may not be required to have a more "valid" marriage than citizens, but another is fraud. Marriage problems are normal and irrelevant to USCIS in most cases, but fraud is a plague that directly affects legit couples. Marriage fraud is degrading, disgusting and a crime.
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Originally posted by Someone12:
OP=Original Poster......my suggestion, for what it is worth, is to dump this j e r k at the speed of light....he is a scam artist, and statistically speaking, he will abuse you nine ways from Sunday shortly after any marriage you enter into with him....sounds like bad news from start to finish....he is using you, soon will be abusing you, while he spends time with his 'friends' who have scammed their way to the US, to engage in who-knows-what kind of behavior. Muslim men are not kind to women....period. You are viewed as something less than camel **** to these clowns.
Good luck and I hope you end this 'relationship' tomorrow (if not sooner).

lol thank you and everyone else who is giving me advice.

The only recommendation that anybody here can give you is to check with an attorney before you take action. You do NOT want to do something that's illegal and you should make sure that all your actions and those taken by friends and relatives are completely lawful.
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There is something about this that no one has yet mentioned that you need to be aware of, also, and that's the extreme likelihood of the Service figuring this out.

There are so many red flags to a Service officer about his case that there is a very high probability that they will investigate this in-depth, and they WILL find out his marriage is a sham.

1. Culturally, traditional muslim men have a problem with marrying any woman who is not a virgin, and certainly with marrying a woman who has children and is previously divorced.

2. Muslim men are unlikely to marry a woman older than them by a year, much less twice their age, as you described this case.

3. Even if he got the green card, an immediate divorce may come back to haunt him, they'll look into it at naturalization proceedings, trust me.

Lastly, he needs to be aware that they will grill him, and her, at the interview. Do they live together? If not, the Service has ways of finding out. They send officers to question neighbors about the couple, and they may separate them at the interview to ask them separately such questions as where they met, how long they dated before marriage, how did they get to the interview that day, do they live together, is their oven gas or electric, does their spouse's car have a cassette player or CD player, where do the in-laws live....you get the picture.

This is bad news, and chances are REAL good that the Service will get to the truth here. I'd find a nice American man to date and not worry anymore about this. You don't need the trouble.

And there's a HUGE myth related to the interviews too. People often tend to believe that these interviews relate to past events and the biographical data of the couple, they do not. The interview often centers around PRESENT facts, habits, details, things that relate to the day to day life of the individuals.
CIS only cares about the couple living as husband and wife, not about memorizing data and historic events. If the applicants do not share their lives as a married couple, they simply will not be able to pass the interview.
In any case, marriage fraud is a pathetic and degrading crime.
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It seems that muslim men are only "in anything
for themselves" they do not care or value anything,
not their so called marriage, so called girl friend or boy friend or whatever. They have no respect for the girlfriends or wives at all. Muslim men also seem to think that it is the "burden of the US citizen spouse" to prove their case with INS. INS clearly states that the "Burden of proof rests with the Alien". If he/she cannot prove, cannot be truthful, then they don't deserve any consideration at all. No
US citizen spouse wants to be thought of as a
"joke"in the immigration process. It is not a
joke! It takes 2 walking the walk in truth!
if not, the US citizen spouse should "bow out"
and leave the "alien spouse" to his own demise.

Guess what?? It might take a little longer to get his papers straight because I was married and I got my EX husband his papers he went to mexico and he still had an appointment to get his 5 yr gc wich he never got because I divorced him but since I was supposed to go to the interview with him he lost his papers so I think you might have to wait to get married.

That's not quite correct. Since both parties are principals to the marriage, both parties bear the burden of establishing eligibility for immediate relative status (bona-fide marriage). That is different from the burden of showing of admissibility which rests upon the alien.
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Originally posted by Houston:
But what about the sponsor? The sponsor is by no means off-the-hook as he or she may be charged with a conspiracy to commit marriage fraud.
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Hmmm. I seriously doubt that a joint sponsor, who has only contributed his/her income and assets to make certain that an alien will not be a financial burden, could be charged with conspiracy to commit fraud, UNLESS there is some available evidence to clearly demonstrate that the joint sponsor was aware and complicit in the scheme to defraud.

Joint sponsors do not necessarily have intimate knowledge of the petitioners' motivations.

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Originally posted by nireehamdi:
It seems that muslim men are only "in anything
for themselves" they do not care or value anything,
not their so called marriage, so called girl friend or boy friend or whatever. They have no respect for the girlfriends or wives at all. Muslim men also seem to think that it is the "burden of the US citizen spouse" to prove their case with INS. INS clearly states that the "Burden of proof rests with the Alien". If he/she cannot prove, cannot be truthful, then they don't deserve any consideration at all. No
US citizen spouse wants to be thought of as a
"joke"in the immigration process. It is not a
joke! It takes 2 walking the walk in truth!
if not, the US citizen spouse should "bow out"
and leave the "alien spouse" to his own demise.

I know, she should !! I don't know what her motivation is for during this?

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Originally posted by jennifer1184:
now the difficult is going about revoking his sponsorship (my mother sponsored him).

Difficult part? How about near impossible part! He has been married for a year, and your mother signed an irrevocable contract with the US government. She can't simply withdraw it.

The only chance that she could be let off the hook would be if he leaves the country, naturalises, dies or satsifies the 40-quarters requirement of social security deposits. What's more, if the US citizen wife is in dire straits financially, is there a chance that he has drawn benefits yet?

The only way to extricate herself from his support for the next God knows how many years, would be if his petition to remove conditions is denied, and he is ordered removed.

Of course to alert USCIS to the fraudulent nature of the marriage *could* cause USCIS to closer scrutinise the application and perhaps make a finding of fraud against the parties in the marriage (which would certainly assure that he does not gain a permanent green card , and would then alleviate your mother of her obligation under the Affidavit of Support), but how that should be done is a question for a qualified immigration attorney. One certainly would not want to amke any assertions that could allude or indicate that this was knowledge at the time the sponsorship was offered.

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Originally posted by jennifer1184:

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Originally posted by nireehamdi:
It seems that muslim men are only "in anything
for themselves" they do not care or value anything,
not their so called marriage, so called girl friend or boy friend or whatever. They have no respect for the girlfriends or wives at all. Muslim men also seem to think that it is the "burden of the US citizen spouse" to prove their case with INS. INS clearly states that the "Burden of proof rests with the Alien". If he/she cannot prove, cannot be truthful, then they don't deserve any consideration at all. No
US citizen spouse wants to be thought of as a
"joke"in the immigration process. It is not a
joke! It takes 2 walking the walk in truth!
if not, the US citizen spouse should "bow out"
and leave the "alien spouse" to his own demise.

I know, she should !! I don't know what her motivation is for during this?

Most often, there's money involved. I'd surmise that could be the case, since she has some financial concerns.

Sappyconifer, the OP said that she found out from a family member who is a co-sponsor. This means that the person is sponsoring the application KNOWING and REGARDLESS OF THE FACT that the couple intents to commit fraud. Sponsorship is "affirmative action" given the fact that it's vital to sustain the application.
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