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Please note that if CIS denied your I-485 application YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO APPEAL IT.

However, you are entitled to file an action for mandamus and declaratory relief with the US District Court having jurisdiction over the CIS office you applied. In such action, you would ask a federal district magistrate or judge to issue an order compelling the CIS to accept your evidence if you can demonstrate that you have established your burden of proof.

I recently had a case where the applicant had to demonstrate that he indeed departed the US to avoid the Service's rejection of his application because the applicant had been in removal proceedings earlier. True that he was in remmoval proceedings, and true that the Immigration Judge told him to leave voluntarily by a certain date. He complied with that order. Then, he came back to the US and married the mother of his children and a US citizen. He filed his I-485 application with CIS, but the Service rejected it by stating show me that you have actually left the US. Otherwise, you must ask the judge to reopen your case. As in your case, the airline did not keep the records for that long. However, he had presented sufficient evidence through affidavits of those who took him to the airport, a copy of the airline ticket, but not the actual entry document into his country. The Service kept rejecting his application and would not consider it because it believed that he needed to reopen his removal case.

I filed a complaint in federal district court and in less than 60 days, the CIS had agreed to accept the evidence.

You can do the same.

However, contrary to what others have mentioned that you should appeal, the law does not provide you with an opportunity to appeal a denial of the I-485.


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If you already have an atty., then what are you doing here asking for advice?
 
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Originally posted by jjworks:
Please note that if CIS denied your I-485 application YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO APPEAL IT.

However, you are entitled to file an action for mandamus and declaratory relief with the US District Court having jurisdiction over the CIS office you applied. In such action, you would ask a federal district magistrate or judge to issue an order compelling the CIS to accept your evidence if you can demonstrate that you have established your burden of proof.

I recently had a case where the applicant had to demonstrate that he indeed departed the US to avoid the Service's rejection of his application because the applicant had been in removal proceedings earlier. True that he was in remmoval proceedings, and true that the Immigration Judge told him to leave voluntarily by a certain date. He complied with that order. Then, he came back to the US and married the mother of his children and a US citizen. He filed his I-485 application with CIS, but the Service rejected it by stating show me that you have actually left the US. Otherwise, you must ask the judge to reopen your case. As in your case, the airline did not keep the records for that long. However, he had presented sufficient evidence through affidavits of those who took him to the airport, a copy of the airline ticket, but not the actual entry document into his country. The Service kept rejecting his application and would not consider it because it believed that he needed to reopen his removal case.

I filed a complaint in federal district court and in less than 60 days, the CIS had agreed to accept the evidence.

You can do the same.

However, contrary to what others have mentioned that you should appeal, the law does not provide you with an opportunity to appeal a denial of the I-485.


Wow this is some great information, jjworks! Thank you so much for this post. I'm sure my attorney is not aware of this option otherwise, she should have mentioned this to me already. I do have on question though, should we file for this motion now or should we wait until we receive word on my FOIA requests with the CBP and the state dept? Please advise...

Thank you so much for your input jjworks!
 
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If you already have an atty., then what are you doing here asking for advice?


I just wanted to have a second opinion on things. I don't want to rely solely on my attorney's advice as I'm sure my attorney does not know everything about the "special procedures" regarding my case. I will be bringing this up with my attorney on our next meeting. I do respect and appreciate everyone's input in this and I am very grateful for all the important information everyone has given me.
 
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If your atty. specializes in immigration law, believe you me when I say he/she knows everything related to the field.
 
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If your atty. specializes in immigration law, believe you me when I say he/she knows everything related to the field.


I hope so because I'll have lots of questions for them whem we meet.
 
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Originally posted by Kumar555:
I know for sure that before 9/11 all airlines and the INS Official most of the time they never used to collect the I-94 from the departing passngers.

I went to the US Embassy and given my to them and seen many vistors have to do this.
 
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I know for sure that before 9/11 all airlines and the INS Official most of the time they never used to collect the I-94 from the departing passngers.

I went to the US Embassy and given my to them and seen many vistors have to do this.


I read somewhere that you have to give them your i-94 when you depart. Otherwise, you'll be marked as an overstay.
 
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May God help to deny more I-485 petitions !
Amen !


 
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My i-485 was approved after we filed a motion to re-open the case. I'm now a permanent resident. thank you so much to all the people who helped me with their POSITIVE input. Big Grin
 
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Originally posted by qtpinoy54:
My i-485 was approved after we filed a motion to re-open the case. I'm now a permanent resident. thank you so much to all the people who helped me with their POSITIVE input. Big Grin


congrats... and thanks for coming back to let us know that. I am sure it gives hope to others in similar situation. I also hope that you'll stay arround and share what you've learned in the process..
 
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In case you have not notice,but INS does very well and I did.
You application is not only denied and you won't be able to appeal it either.Thats not an opinion,thats a fact.
All the stuff you mentioned,is just a tiny bit of reason INS gave you to deny you.
Bottom line,you also were here illegally.
You came here in 1992 as a visitior,never went back home,already one illegal act on your behave.Then you have No Passport of your own citizenship? you have nothing that show you actually came here in 1992? ? ? even if you would have it,it would not really matter.

Here is point people should realize,getting married to a US Citizen does not garantee s.h.i.t and if you violated the law prior to your marriage you can and still will be ask to leave and denied.PERIOD.
 
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he was TWELVE..!!!! WOT THE HELL WAS HE EXPECTED TO DO ... TURN HIMSELF IN ???? OH GOT A BETTER IDEA GO TO THE AIRPORT AND HOP ON A PLANE AND GO BACK WHERE HE CAME FROM I AM SURE AT 12 YEARS OLD HE CAN REALLY MANAGE TO NOT GET KILLED, ABUSED, PUT IN CHILD CUSTODY..... This is what really p i s s e s me off....has not one got any common sense... IT WAS OUT OF HIS HANDS.... HIS MOTHER DECIDED TO BRING HIM WHEN SHE GOT HERE....yes ur correct there are ILLEGALS here in this country however.... a story behind every case!!! I stick and will continue to stick with that!! CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING IT SORTED OUT ....
 
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I forgot to mention the details of what happened. With my motion to reopen the case, I was able to retrieve my oringal i-94# and a record of my POE thanks to a FOIA request at the CBP office at my original Port of Entry. I included this number in my motion to reopen and this paved the way to the approval of my case.

Thanks again to everyone who helped me with my case. I hope this will help other people that are in the same situation as I was.

Feb 2005 - filed i-102
May 2005 - i-102 denied
May 2005 - Filed i-130
Sep 2005 - i-130 approved
Oct 2005 - Filed i-485
Feb 2006 - Fingerprints taken
Jul 2006 - Received EAD
Sep 2006 - AOS Interview
Sep 2006 - AOS Denied
Nov 2006 - Submitted Motion to Reopen
Feb 2007 - MTR approved; i-485 approved
 
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