I mean Germany, France, Spain, Czech Rep., Italy, Poland, Sweden...etc..
Do we have to be register to? If not now then when? and why? do we look like terrorists for USA?
<to be>
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No these countries won't be included I guess. Perhaps only Muslim countries are to be persecuted.
<if you enter on a visa>
Posted
People from Western Europe enter into the U.S. under a Visa Waiver Program (VWP) so they are NOT required to register. Eastern Europian countries will probably end up added to the list sooner or later.
<question>
Posted
well what U mean Eastern Europe? what country? I don't think so that Poland, Czech Rep., Slovenia, etc... are dangerous for USA (terrorism)!
<political move>
Posted
Well, there are islamic countries in Europe too...and then, in order no to sound discriminatory the U.S. will expand the program to all countries.
<guest>
Posted
It doesn't make sense that the US is picking on Islamic countries. Islamist radicals are a peace loving group of good fellows,
<question>
Posted
ok for example: someone stay here illegally after date on visa - then what? If he/she will go to registration it the same like: "Hi I would like register me but Mr.Officer I'm here illegally = deportation" - U don't think so that is stupid? Most of this people just don't go there - they didn't stay here for this that now they will go say: I'm here illegally!
Thats mean after this USA will CLEAR!!! from all illegally immigrants!? or I don't understand something?
<X>
Posted
The United States still feels threatened in general and wants to attempt to prevent any future attacks. Our strongest opposition at the moment comes from Radical Islamic Fundamentalist groups. However, as most thinking people in the United States are aware, this is not a adequate reprentation of all people who practice Islam.
In this way, people are aware that it is unfair to target the Islamic groups, and therefore feel that it would be better to expand any practice that is instated for the muslim population.
However, that cannot be applied only to african and south american countries, as there is no more reason to see a threat from these countries then from eastern european countries. It is important to note that any practice that is established will have to be across the board, something that is applied to all countries that require visas and all people that require visas.
The ideology of the United States has always been to protect its own, and simultaneously attempt to be fair and just in its dealing with others. There is no other way, with the current emotional and intellectual state of many people living in the USA, to attempt to accomplish what is desired.
I thereby recommend that everyone, understand that this may only be a temporary solution to a real problem, however it is something that will have to be respected and understood for what it is, an attempt to protect the people (citizens and non-citizens) residing in or traveling to the United States of America.
It may not be the best solution, but if it becomes necessary, it must be understood and appreciated for the ideology behind it. Because it is this ideology that makes the United States a place that so many people want to come to and live in.
Therefore, protest the law if necessary, but respect the ideology.
Thank you
<X>
Posted
Finally, this will probably have little to no impact on illegal immigrants as they are unlikely to register... this law applies primarily to visa holders.
However, you can expect to see more changes regarding immigration laws that will impact illegal aliens, and the development of stricter regulations on pardons.
Therefore, whether you are legal or illegal in this country it is very important at this time to continually keep yourself up to date on changes in immigration laws, etc. in order to maintain your situation in the best position possible.
The last thing you want is to be legal, but become illegal through ignorance of the laws, or to be illegal and miss your opportunity for legalization or a grandfather clause, or a pardon, or anything of this nature.
Keep your eyes and ears open, and you may even want to call the INS or a lawyers office every so often in order to keep yourself up to date
<question>
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then tell me - what I should do to stay here legall!?!?! if only one what I can do is getting marriage or win GC on lottery!!!!
H-1B visa and sponsorship is almost immposible, even for me computer engineer!!!! - no job here!
No family here.
<X>
Posted
if you are a skilled worker, maybe you can try Canada. Otherwise talk to a really good lawyer and they will give you all of your options, unfortunately you probably don't have that many.
But that doesn't mean you have to limit yourself to the USA.
Oh... you are a computer engineer.. have you ever considered graduate school? Student visas are still pretty easy to get, you need some money in the bank, but for grad school you can work on campus and chances are that the school will provide you with enough money to support yourself.
and keep looking for a job....
<just won't>
Posted
INS has some serious mental problems when requiring immigrants to go themselves to be detained -- they should be able to find illegal and/or criminal aliens by themselves (and detain them if they want) -- but requiring foreign nationals to go there and try to make them look stupid, when it is them that are stupid, just won't work.
<just won't>
Posted
...but requiring foreign nationals to go there and try to make them look stupid, when it is INS that is stupid, just won't work.
<just won't but should>
Posted
The majority of people protesting this registration seem to be people with something to hide, like illegal status, overstaying, things like that. Don't register, just go home. It is hard to find sympathy for people who ignore the law, then complain about it! I hate to sound harsh, but damn it! I came here legally, I am here legally, and I work hard and pay the fees to keep my status current. I expect no less from others, and the US can't continue to function without some kind of knowledge of its residents and some form of control over its borders. If you don't like this, then go home. These complainers give immigrants a very bad image.
<TX guest>
Posted
It's not the registration requirement per se that gives me creeps; it's the manner in which this is being instituted. In most places on this planet, your plane lands, you go through passport control, answer a few questions, your passport gets scanned and you are in the system. When you leave, again, you go through passport control, your passport is scanned, and they know you are leaving. Simple as that. US authorities couldn't keep up with I-94 forms, originally designed to keep track of visitors, so they have resorted to fingerprinting, photographing, collecting very private information (identity theft, anyone?) about credit card numbers, video rental cards, and so on. Arbitrary arrests of people who were going through adjustment of status and thus allowed for their visas to expire - perfectly legal thing because adjustment of status takes years - are a clear violation of INS's own rules. There are better ways to do this. How about doing it the way most of the world is doing it already? What they are doing now simply exposes their incompetence and inability to learn from others.
<KSGuest>
Posted
USA should have a working system to keep track of people who are entering the country. When fully implemented, the new system would keep track of people who are entering the country using regular ports.
The way INS is executing this registration thing, illegals would not go registrar. I am not sure what INS would do about them next.
One thing about this registration that is interesting is people who have entered without an imspection (EWI) (i.e. crossing the border) would not have to registrar.
<Brizi>
Posted
KSGuest, the INS is supposed to have that system in place, but they do not have it. Basically, this Special Registration Circus just demonstrates how inefficient and unscrupulous INS is.
<Go And Fuck Yourselves!>
Posted
Amen Brizi!
<propranolol>
Posted
The initial theory of Special Registration appears simple - lets know the who, when, where of immigrants, so we can find the bad guys among them when our intelligence tells us who the bad guys are. By the addition today of Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Jordan, and Kuwait to the ever-lengthening list of countries, Special Registration takes what we believe is one step further towards General Registration.
Criticizing Special Registration because it initially targets certain nationals and not others is criticism doomed to fail. Once British, Canadian, German, Japanese, Mexican and other nationals are also required to register alike generally (we are here dubbing this "General Registration"), the Department of Justice/Department of Homeland Security (DOJ/DHS) will point out that discrimination can no longer be alleged.
In criticizing Special Registration, we also need to look at the end of its path, not just its beginning. If the end result of an all-powerful all-knowing government gives us pause, as it should given the lessons of the history of
NAZI GERMANY
we should question any path that will take us to a similar end. The real problem with Special Registration is that it portends increased governmental control over everyone, US citizens and immigrants alike.
After every immigrant has been registered, why should DOJ/DHS stop there? Why not require the whole gamut of restrictions on all Americans, then? Particularly if some of the perpetrators of any future Al-Quaeda terrorist attacks happens to be a US citizen, this argument will appear compelling to those in DOJ/DHS. Special Registration does not appear to have anything fundamentally good to commend it for it paves the way for the US to become a totalitarian state.