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The Immigratiom has arrested my Husband on marrige fraud. My marrige is perfect but they denied my petion for him. He divorced this woman 8 months into the marrige never pursuing the green card,they are tring to deport him. We have a lawyer but I am tring to do everything in power to help him.He has a good work history and has no trouble with the law ever.Can anyone give me hope he will get out of this trouble or do I think the worse.
 
Posts: 12 | Registered: 10-10-2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Simos,
Can you be more specific?

1.How and when was he arrested?

2.Did he apply for greencard through you and did he get approved?

3.Where is your husband RIGHT NOW?
 
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Simos,

Please provide more details, such as how your husband came to US, did he file for any immigration benefits with his first wife? What petition did you file that was denied? From what I have read on this and other sites Immigration doesn't come looking for illegal immigrants. Was your husband arrested or pulled over for something else and then the police discovered his immigration status?

Whatever the answers might be, you need a good immigration attorney.
 
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Thay came to my Husbands place of employment . They asked him to set up The Shiek at a Mosque when he told them he had no information on him they took his Id and asked him if he was tring to recieve a green card > he said yes. They told him they would make it easier if would help them . He said he has no info. they left. Then the shiek called cause he works for the same company and wanted him to deliver keys to him at the Mosque. he said he would accept the keys but he would not deliver them. then 5 minutes later they INS returned tried to give him another chance to set up the Shiek and he said he only knows about these keys once again they took his ID and told him they were going to make life hell for him if he did not give this guy up. Thay gave him a phone# if he changed his mind but it was missing 1 number. So called our lawyer and they said our papers were in order and not to worry. Then 6.5 hours later they came to our house and arrested him on Marrige fraud from his first marrige. He is just sitting in a city jail now they have not placed him in a Federal Dentention center yet so he can get before a judge for a bond hearing.WE have a good lawyer I hope but I just want to know if there is anything I find on paper to help my husband or any thing I am missing to get him out .They denied my petion for his residency so now how can he stay here. I want to amke sure I am getting the best legal help for case.I am so distraut over this I can not focus well . PLEASE HELP US >
 
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Who is they? What is your husband's visa status now? How did he come to the USA? When was your petition denied?

The lawyer can surely get him out on bond.
 
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They - ICE -immigration. He entered on a school visa in 98' when Ins gave him his papers for deportation.Also papers on what they allege he did.
 
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what did they allege he did?
 
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immgration fraud due to a first marrige in 98'
 
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If he entered on a studeent visa, he entered legally. Did he remain in school? When did he marry and when did he divorce? It may be that ICE thinks he married to stay in the country if no papers were ever filed for his first marriage and he didn't stay in school then he had no status. Even if that was the case, the marriage to you should put him in pending status. When did his marriage to you take place and when did you file I-130 and I-485? I assume these are the petitions that have been denied.
If USCIS denied your petition the letter should tell you why. Did it say suspected marriage fraud?

Was your husband in removal proceeding when you married?

I don't know why his marriage from 1998 would be an issue now. You said in your first post that they were trying to deport him. Do you think his first wife has reported him?

Maybe your husband just knows someone who has done something wrong and if he wasn't involved then surely his lawyer will prove he is innocenct and he'll be back home with you soon.
 
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His marrige was 2000' and when he relized it was what he wanted he started the divorce from her.He attened school off and on thur his stay here.he only was married to her for 7 .5 months the divorce was final a few months after the papers were filed. ICE is tring to say that this woman he was married to was in marrige scam with a man from Algeria my was husband knows nothing of this. Ice says she was married too 8 differant men.She {1st wife ]did file papers for him but he did not go to or recieve anything fronm this 1st marrige. He went the demand registration that required for immigrants after 911 nothing was said to him then or after this point. We were married in April 05' we went to a lawyer for everything and he checked into his past case and he said it was inactive so the lawyer said that was good . BUt this ICE guy went digging ****her to see what he get on my husband to get him cause he did not help ICE. I am hoping for someone to tell they have these issues and everything had a good outcome. My husbands says either outcome is good cause God has a purpose for us here or in Morroco, we will just face it together. although USA is a better choice for all.The man ICE was looking for has turned himself in already and they have placed him already in a Federal Center and he is due for a bond hearing on wednesday but my husband is not getting granted this choice yet they just keep moving him from city jail to city jail. Sorry my typing is not good and I tend to go on but I am pulling at all strings to get advice.PLEASE
 
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Best advice anyone here can give you --> FIND GOOD IMMIGRATION LAWYER ASAP!

This is nowhere near a normal situation due to the fact that ICE/DHS is involved, and the fact they're trying to enlist his cooperation to nail a bigger target. Since he refused them, he now has to pay the price of his lack of cooperation. You stated it yourself, they'll nitpick their way through until they can get to your husband. If this case can be brought in front of a IJ then you'll have better chance. But you'll want someone familiar with the immigration system to argue the case.

Did your husband complete the Special Registration though? That alone is enough to get him deported.
 
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My husband had no info on him. Not even a phone #. He told them if had sopme info he would help them but he had nothing.The guy works for the same company anhd this Shiek married us with legal US marrige cert. All i know is he went and register for the special register after 911 we have reciept of this. They did fine him or deport him everything was good for him since then. My husband has no crimnal record and has worked at the same job for 4.5 years .does that way on any desicion the judge may have? I have asked the lawyer all these question too. I just want someone to tell the things he is doing are right or what I can demand him to more of.I DO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
 
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Thay did not fine him {my typing is very bad please excuse this}
 
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Well, what exactly did the lawyer do that make you so worried? Has he file anything yet? At the very least, your husband should be entitled for a bail, unless ICE/DHS invoke one of their draconian Patriot Act.
 
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Which country is your husband from? Which country is the sheik from?

These are relevant factors.
 
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Country of origin is insignificant. There're hundreds of thousands of people in this country from arabic country, not to mention several millions more whose hail arabic descent. I don't see the govt rounding them up like cows and putting them up in a enclosed herding ground like what they did with the Japanese during WW2.
 
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Simos

Your info is very sporadic and I understand b/c you are upset.. but you are missing lots of peices in this story. I will try to make time line and you correct or fill in the pieces where I am not accurate.

Your husband is morrocan national who came to USA in 1998 on F-1 (student visa) He attended college off and on but did not necesarily stay in status/keepe I20 updated.

husband had a first marriage in 1998

then you say marriage was in 2000 and lasted 8 months WHICH is it? 1998 or 2000

Husband filed papers in this marriage , but never went to interview, which means it was abandoned. which means he never adjusted to legal status thru marriage. At that time of abandement, legal status was terminated from that application and at some point would have gone into removal/deportation proceedings. However, as it happens in some cases, The order may never had been issued yet.
Do You know if he was ever issued a deportation order ? & if so....when?

The only way he would have remained legal was
unless he returned to legal F1 status and attended school with current I20...DID this happen, or u dont know?

Was he out of status when you married him , or was his f1 in order/current enrolled in school?
If out of status, most lkely he has been working 4.5 yrs off the social security he was issued from that marriage then or from being f1 student.

April 05 you married him and applied for AOS
lawyer checked system and did not find any deportation orders. correct?
Special registration did not detain him u say.


When did USCIS deny your petition for him to adjust status thru your marriage? was it before this ice incident/or concurrent/ or after?

Plese answer these questions and any other info that you have. You cannot get accurate info here without the correct facts. You will need a expert immigration lawyer, not "filler" that doesnt know what he/she is doing. Be careful of advice here of posters that do not know what they talk about such as the "big Dummy" that says she doenst know what a 1998 marriage would have to do with you.

Here is the bottom line. Your husband can get married 1000 times, but will not be able to adjust status until the first marriage can be validated, b/c it was under investigation for fraud. It has everything to do with why you are being denied. This case is most likely going to be decided in front of IJ who can adjust your status at that time.

You need to talk to your husband and know if he was involved in sham marriage just so you know. Dont have your head in the sand on this one. Wink At that time before 911, it was easy to do this
kind of business marriage. One gal could be married like 8 or 10 times, collect the money and nobody knew anything at INS. it was standard operating procedure. Guy gets work permit and soc sec. They never generally go to first interview for obvious reasons. Nobody pressed those deport orders back then. Later, guy gets real marriage or more legitamate one that will go to interview for 10 yrs card. end of story. Everybody go his way.

So now you are telling us that your husband fell in love with this kind of girl and marry her, and didnt know? We do not want to change your member name to BIGDUMMY2? Get a grip gal.

None the less, if he did, you just need to know so you know what you are up against. and the lawyer needs to know also. This way you dont get suprises, and just deal with it.

technically , coutry of origin should not matter, but get over it, itduzz Wink It is unspoken, but arabic will have more harder time on this one, especially since ICE involved. This case will probalbly stay in marriage fraud unit for very long time. Get expert lawyer, one who has experience in this specific area, not a paper pusher immigration lawyer.

Get your accurate facts to us so maybe Mr. Mohan or Sammy can lead you in the right direction.

Good luck
 
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4now,

I really don't appreciate you making fun of me. I never claimed to be an expert on this stuff. It seems that many people on this board enjoy seeing US citizens hurt by foreigners. I call myself bigdummy because I allowed a man to use me by believing his lies. Why do you think this is funny?

I think that my experience might help others and that is why I come to this site. I don't think that every man is like my ex and I believe that many marriages are for the right reasons. I spent a lot of time dealing with immigration matters to get my ex-husband here and I did it right, so I do have infomation to offer.

My statement about the 1998 marriage not mattering would be if he was a student and kept that valid and never filed for any immigration benefit related to the marriage, which is what she originally said.
 
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Oh really.. well I dont appreciate you giving misinformaton.

Big Dummy you say

"My statement about the 1998 marriage not mattering would be if he was a student and kept that valid and never filed for any immigration benefit related to the marriage, which is what she originally said."

The poster and others had like 8 posts before you gave that answer....
read for yourself...

[quote]Then 6.5 hours later they came to our house and arrested him on Marrige fraud from his first marrige. He is just sitting in a city jail now they have not placed[/quote]


Posted October 10, 2005 12:12 PM
"immgration fraud due to a first marriage"

then You said:

"I call myself bigdummy because I allowed a man to use me by believing his lies."

Are you sure this is the only reason...Wink

Now your experience may help others so long as you are giving accurate info and know for fact what you are talking about... now if you dont know the answer, try to refrain in all fairness to the person seeking the advice. then its not good to give advices "just because its what you think and you have no basis to back it up." Thats dangereous.... as people come to this board for accurate information..not to be mislead becuase of misinformation. remember that because its important.

so come on .. No reason for you to be senstitive about this.. lighten up.. change your name to "Lil smart" complete Comprehensive 101. Wink and since u are graduate of prestigious Micael fan club he calls u "Big Smarty" for being honoray member Smile
 
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4now Eek tsk tsk, where is your normal nature? Wink
 
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