Israel has prepared for many years for this attack and waited for the right timing. And they used that one young soldier incident to justify their crime.
If I am not lazy, some day I will dig out my books about Military Campaigns of Napoleon in Egypt. I will quote his directives, orders, speeches ( "Soldiers, forty centuries are looking upon you !" - Napoleon, to his Army at the Gyza Pyramids before the battle. And what miracles did his soldiers perform under his command !) , and also his recollections of what he did after victorious battles, and what was reasoning behind all his actions.
AND IT ALL WORKED ! You should all learn something from it !
He subdued Egypt and kept their lands fully under his control until he was forced to leave abruptly due to unexpected events in France.
Posts: 2501 | Location: NJ, USA | Registered: 03-11-2006
The problem is you're lazy. Just like Bush, UK and Israel...all are lazy to resolve the Lebanon crisis diplomatically against world opinion. Once and for all, the crisis can never be solved by military solution...even if you read all the war books.
You're above what? You're above your grandma. Dude, you asked for it. This is what you get if you don't stop being an a s s h o l e. Look at how many people hate you here. I never answered back this way to you...but you now force me to do it. I'm gonna give it to you...you mother f u c k e r !
I suppose, as part of the strategy to subjugate Arabs and integrate democracy among them, Bush administration should not let Israel under any circumstances to make their own decisions concerning warfare.
There should be only one ˜head' making orders as to when to fire.
It is a fortunate strategic position to have Israel as the rear in war against ˜''terrorist organizations"'', or jihads or whatever the hell ˜the enemy' should be called, and for that matter US (or Bush administration) has to make all the attempts to maintain ˜friendly' relations with Israel (and isn't that what they're trying to do?).
I suppose if Bush weren't a fool, he would see the importance in using all of the diplomatic tactics to make Israel obey the US and don't let them create situations (such as killing civilians while fighting with Hezbollah) that attract the attention and turn the rest of the world (UN, NATO and Arabian countries) against them both.
The US control over Israel would eliminate (of course it would!) most of the ˜foolish' intestine territorial wars (foolish because they don't have positive contribution to US (Bush administration) war against terror) that Israel has with surrounding Arabian countries and, as a result, prevent radically negative interior/exterrior reactions towards the US (Bush administration) politics in the Middle East from further intensification.
He (Bush) has a good plan, but he's tactics is mediocre.
[quote]What did I do? I just f u c k e d your mom ![/quote]
I'm gonna give it to you...you mother f u c k e r !
But:...... I just f u c k e d your mom ![/quote]
so who is the M F er
[quote]I could say the same to you about your mom and all your closest family members. But I will not. I am above that [quote]
AF is true Democrat. "Dont ask Dont Tell
But enough jokes... Seriously this is out of control now. We need to respect each other on this forum when having serious discussions. We should not resort to "your momma wears army boots" type of rhetoric. It is hurtful and unbecoming to profane each other when we dont agree. There's enough people to bash out there..ie GWB etc... We dont have to bash each other in a profaning manner that is not fitting on the forum. There are other threads floating around here if one wants to practice nonsense or inappropriate discourse.
So boys and girls... lets have a time out/cease fire and end this thread... or behave ourselves and treat each other with verbal respect if you choose to continue it.
You know guys, this antisomething is having his field day for such a long time. Check all his postings how you insulted and talked trash about me and other people here. I didn't start it. Just like Israel of which he and many are in favor of, I say to them...you provoke me, I attack you. Why do I apologize if I'm just defending myself. And to answer your question 4now, I said I f.....k his mother and still can call him mother f...ker 'cause he can do the same thing to his own mother. Why be surprised?
I see you are suffocating from frustration, macy, or else why would you resort to such insults? Just because I state the fact that you are a poopsterhead doesn't mean that I ask you to insult my relatives.
For now I shall ignore you while you suffer from sever condition of "Suffering From Your Own Stupidity"
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4now, I will not end the thread just because someone is going crazy about it.
Posts: 2501 | Location: NJ, USA | Registered: 03-11-2006
[quote]I say to them...you provoke me, I attack you. Why do I apologize if I'm just defending myself.[quote]
NOw you know I've been right with you all the way in this but listen to what you just said..
Macy.... Listen to yourself..
[quote]I say to them...you provoke me, I attack you.
Isnt that exactly what Israel did to the Lebanese people??? Unwarranted attack.. Over react. I could go C&P.. but I dont have to b/c you know what you have been saying. It wasnt right or warranted for them to do what they did, but now you seem to be justifying it by your statement. think about it please.
Im not attacking you.. just asking you to use logic and be fair and true to your arguments. You hurt and maimed AF.. doesnt matter if you and other people feel he deserved it. Look at the paralell... Israel & hezboallah.
Why do I apologize if I'm just defending myself.[quote]
Because it was the wrong thing to do by Israel and the wrong thing to do by you... and people got hurt.
[quote]And to answer your question 4now, I said I f.....k his mother and still can call him mother f...ker 'cause he can do the same thing to his own mother. Why be surprised?[/quote]
Come on Man... about the MF er thing... It was a joke.. a play on words showing the scenario of what you said and did.... Im surprised that you didnt get it. Maybe you should lighten up as this has started to get to intense my friend.
Now you should look at what you are preaching and what you are doing and decide to yourself what you exactly are supporting, and if it is not in fact practicing "Precept and Example.
Beware of M F er AntiF ! He is extremely good at arguing his points and had destroyed us, great fairus.org and "Whitesonlyus" members, on great number of occassions and I just lacked my CDL license or else I would ride the bus over his g-a-y paranoid head long time ago !!!
So, here is the plan, OUR SUPER STRATEGY:
We can't argue and destroy AntiF on merits when it comes to Immigration issues, he is just too smart for any of us !
Thus we have ONLY ONE REMEDY: project an image that he is a Nazi-Terrorist-Hezbollah-Maoist M F er, and repeat it too often (As our great anti-poopster teacher Joseph Goebbels would suggest; and we don't even have to use logic, just repeat same thing a 1000 times !!) and we shall continue doing so for as long as he doesn't kiss the a s s of our very great anti-poopster boss John Tanton !!!
Long live my Great FAIR anti-poopster friend 4now !!!
Long live "Whitesonlyus" !!!
LONG LIVE FAIRUS.ORG !!!!!!
LONG LIVE OUR GREAT ANTI-POOPSTER BOSS JOHN TANTON !!!
AntiF is Hitler-Communist-Nazi-Terrorist-Hezbollah-Maoist MOTHER F er !!!!
AntiF is Hitler-Communist-Nazi-Terrorist-Hezbollah-Maoist MOTHER F er !!!!
AntiF is Hitler-Communist-Nazi-Terrorist-Hezbollah-Maoist MOTHER F er !!!!
[all of you must repeat this mantra, at least 300 times ! ]
!! SUPERTRUTH !! Member Posted August 01, 2006 09:50 AM My Dear Great Anti-Poopster Friend 4now !
Beware of M F er AntiF ! He is extremely good at arguing his points and had destroyed us, great fairus.org and "Whitesonlyus" members, on great number of occassions and I just lacked my CDL license or else I would ride the bus over his g-a-y paranoid head long time ago !!!
So, here is the plan, OUR SUPER STRATEGY:
We can't argue and destroy AntiF on merits when it comes to Immigration issues, he is just too smart for any of us !
Thus we have ONLY ONE REMEDY: project an image that he is a Nazi-Terrorist-Hezbollah-Maoist M F er, and repeat it too often (As our great anti-poopster teacher Joseph Goebbels would suggest; and we don't even have to use logic, just repeat same thing a 1000 times !!) and we shall continue doing so for as long as he doesn't kiss the a s s of our very great anti-poopster boss John Tanton !!!
Long live my Great FAIR anti-poopster friend 4now !!!
Long live "Whitesonlyus" !!!
LONG LIVE FAIRUS.ORG !!!!!!
LONG LIVE OUR GREAT ANTI-POOPSTER BOSS JOHN TANTON !!!
AntiF is Hitler-Communist-Nazi-Terrorist-Hezbollah-Maoist MOTHER F er !!!!
AntiF is Hitler-Communist-Nazi-Terrorist-Hezbollah-Maoist MOTHER F er !!!!
AntiF is Hitler-Communist-Nazi-Terrorist-Hezbollah-Maoist MOTHER F er !!!!
[all of you must repeat this mantra, at least 300 times ! ] Posts: 82 | Registered: July 18, 2006
All MEPP go to poopster shrink and get treated with poopy pills
[quote]Im not attacking you.. just asking you to use logic and be fair and true to your arguments. You hurt and maimed AF.. doesnt matter if you and other people feel he deserved it. Look at the paralell... Israel & hezboallah.[/quote]
Invalid comparison, 4now. As usual, though.
The comparison invalidated by following facts:
1. macyuhoo and I are not separate States but two individuals within the boundaries of one State. Our supreme authority is US Constitution, we have one universal standard that applies to all of us, whereas no such 'Authority' or 'Code of World Regulations' exist internationally, neither between Israel and Lebanon nor any other States (UN is mere decoration, and there are only temporarily agreed upon rules of conduct between States - rules which can and do collapse as soon as major conflict arises) .
2. macyuhoo didn't maim me, but exersised his Constitutional Right of Free Speech - in fact he can insult me anyway he wants (and it's not even labeling , since he doesn't use my actual name but only refers to me as 'Antiwhatever'). I have the (same) right to respond him likewise, but declined to , for I consider myself above insulting ones' close relatives.
3. Hezbollah, on the other hand, DID fire ROCKETS , with the obvious goal to MAIM and KILL Israelis. Hezbollah didn't just use profane language on the Israelis - it actually did everything it could to inflict damage and indiscriminate casualties among Israelis.
4. Israel has no 'Supreme World Court' or 'Authority' it could appeal to, but rather (as it's always the case in International Affairs) had to resort to a 'DUEL'( or "War" ) to settle the conflict with the neighboring State -> from whence the rockets were fired upon Israel in the first place.
5. Having superior Military Israel naturally inflicts heavier damage when provoked to respond, and casualties among civilians in Lebanon are PARTICULARLY CAUSED BY THE FACT THAT HEZBOLLAH DELIBERATELY CHOSES TO FIRE IT'S ROCKETS ON ISRAEL FROM DENSELY POPULATED BY CIVILIANS NEIGHBORHOODS OF LEBANON.
So, practically speaking, Israel had a choice to either:
a). Let Hezbollah fire rockets, kill and maim Israeli civilians without any responce - for fear of targeting populated by civilians regions in Lebanon where Hezbollah is deliberately firing it's rockets from.
or
b). Stop Hezbollah from doing what it does by targeting places from where rockets are coming from. (KEEP IN MIND: Israel DID issue warning and asked civilians to leave the area, but they didn't !)
Undisputably the second of two choices appear to be more rational from the standpoint of Israeli Defence Forces and they chose to defend their homeland instead of letting Hezbollah to destroy it by 'Katyushas' and other rockets.
Under such circumstances, if civilian population in Lebanon doesn't want to die they practically have two choices:
a) Kick Hezbollah out of their land/country/towns/densely populated areas ,and never let terrorist organization back
or
b) Flee the area where Hezbollah operates from and blame for destruction of their cities those who used it to attack the Israel in the first place.
As I eloquently noted in my OP, Arabs as People have lost the instinct of self-preservation and deliberately following the path of self-destruction and doom, unreasonably blaming Israel for their own insanity.
macyuhoo, on the other hand, is neither Arab nor truly insane, he is just an ungrateful poopsterhead who has issues with me because I tend to always speak truth and use my knowledge and logic to the benefit of good and frustration of poopsterheads.
Regards,
IE
Posts: 2501 | Location: NJ, USA | Registered: 03-11-2006
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