[quote]Why weren't you qualified to serve? [/quote]

That , I beleive, is none of YOUR business.

[quote]Bring civilians to a minimum? Ha, ha. Israel kept bombing from day one as if they're doing it in the toilet. They didn't care. They didn't even know where their enemies are? They even bombed the UN force that upset the UN Secretary General forcing him to comment they did it deliberately.[/quote]

In your previous statement, to which I replied, you said that civilians are the only victims in war.
To which I responded that civilian lossess should be brought to minimum. That's the general rule of any war.
Arabs violated it first - by deliberately bombing and killing civilians in Israel and everywhere else in the world, so they have very little moral ground to complain about consequences.
However, for the sake of effectiveness of Military campaign Israel should specifically target and destroy everyone who fights against it, while trying to avoid needlessly killing those who don't.

[quote]..same thing happening in Iraq. The US also kept bombing from day one. When their crimes were discovered, all they could say was those were accidental..[/quote]

Assuming the vastness of US Military might, it is reasonable to suggest that if US REALLY wanted to commit crimes , there would hardly remain any Iraqi alive by now.
And there would be zero crimes discovered & prosecuted so far (whereas ,as a matter of fact, crimes were discovered, investigated (some are still being investigated), cases were brought by Military Tribunal against some US Soldiers and Officers and the guilty were punished).

However, just as in case of Israel, US must implement decisive, even brutal actions against everyone who fights against it, while also trying to avoid needless casualties and harrassments of those who don't.

Part of the problem in Iraq, as I think, could be 'sources' on the ground who give misleading or plain wrong information.
Another problem is the lack of clear, deep understanding and knowledge of the culture, of people and mentality of Iraqis on part of Americans there.
Yet another cause of difficulties is, no doubt, presence of Al-Qaeda and other non-Iraqi Arab fighters who keep arriving and fighting against US.

[quote]What makes you think withdrawal is good? [/quote]

And where did I say that I think Israeli or US withdrawal is good?

[quote] No wonder your girl friend or wife hates you![/quote]

What for should my girlfriend or wife hate me?

[quote]
Arabs violated it first - by deliberately bombing and killing civilians in Israel and everywhere else in the world, so they have very little moral ground to complain about consequences.[quote]


Hmmmm.... It has become very apparant that you have issues with Arabs b/c you continuie to make biased generalizations about this ethnic without distingquishing which groups may or may not be responsible for acts. Its just "Arabs"s to you.... They are all bad and insane you seem to think.


[auote] However, for the sake of effectiveness of Military campaign Israel should specifically target and destroy everyone who fights against it, while trying to avoid needlessly killing those who don't.[quote]


The country is under severe attack. Israel is in a
'Kill em All" mode. You know eventually if hezboallah weaken, aid will have to come to their side to keep Isarael from invading their land again. You would fight to keep the sovereignty of your land...would you not? They will almost have no choice but to stand side by side and fight for their land if outside help does not come and back up Hezba. Hezzba drove them out before when they invaded. Thats exactly why they are on the border as "Freedom Fighters" to keep Israel out.



[quote]No wonder your girl friend or wife hates you! [quote]


Did I miss something somewhere????

I am going to sleep.

Good night, poopsterheads.

The Current State of War:
The Israeli-Hezbollah war has become routinized. Israeli aircraft fly daily air strikes in Lebanon. Hezbollah rockets strike at Israel. Ground combat takes place among small units just north of the Israeli-Lebanese border. It is a situation that appears, on the surface, to have settled into a sustainable routine. Neither side is clearly making military progress; neither side is under military compulsion to end hostilities; neither side appears to be changing the military equation. Such a war can continue for a long time from a military standpoint. The political dimension determines what happens next. That can range from indefinite continuation of the current pattern of conflict, to an attempt by one side to change the pattern in some decisive way, or the suspension of conflict by means of a political resolution.

Let's begin by considering the war from Hezbollah's point of view. To this point, the war has gone better than the militants could possibly have hoped. First, although they have undoubtedly been hurt by the Israeli air campaign, Hezbollah's operational infrastructure appears intact. The militants continue to fire rockets into Israel, although one gets the sense that the rate of fire is decreasing somewhat. Most important, their forces in south Lebanon appear to have offered significant resistance to elite Israeli units.

In other words, Hezbollah has done what no other Arab fighting force has done. It has not cracked under Israeli air-land attack. This has set in motion an important political process in the Islamic world. At the beginning of the war, the response of Sunni countries like Saudi Arabia was to condemn Hezbollah for starting a war that could only bring ruin to Lebanon. By extension, the Saudis were attacking Iran for once again generating a conflict in which Tehran took no risks and in which the force it was backing could not prevail.

Hezbollah's ability to resist Israel has shifted that political dynamic. Hezbollah is achieving its strategic political goal. Simply by resisting and not collapsing, it is establishing itself as the most effective fighting force yet to engage the Israelis. Expectations of disaster confounded, the Islamic opponents of Hezbollah -- as well as secular opponents -- are now trapped in Hezbollah's apparent success. They must close ranks and support them.

Hezbollah can't do better than it is doing now. It is not going to invade Israel and at some point, Israeli air force attacks and the sheer passage of time will undermine its ability to resist. At the very least, the militants are not likely in the course of this fighting to be in a better position than they are today. It is, therefore, in their interest that a cease-fire be declared as soon as possible. If the war ended today, Israel would have achieved nothing definitive in its attacks. Rockets would still be available for attacks on Israel. Israel would not have room to maneuver in south Lebanon. A peacekeeping force would stand between the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Hezbollah as equals. It follows that Hezbollah should want an unconditional cease-fire right now.

Turn to Israel's view of the war. Certainly, none of its strategic objectives have been achieved. Hezbollah has not been shattered. Rocket attacks continue. The Israelis have not routed Hezbollah infantry in their probing attacks but have chosen to retreat after suffering casualties. Most important, they have suffered a political defeat. Hezbollah's credibility and standing have been enhanced. More than two weeks into this war, Israel has not achieved its political objectives and is further from its political objectives than when it began.

Most important -- and this is both a military and political evolution -- Israel is in the process of degrading its single most important asset, which is the idee fixe in the Middle East that the IDF is an irresistible force. This perception has shaped military and political thinking in and about the region since 1956, when Israel defeated the Egyptian army in the Sinai, and was reinforced in 1967. There has been an assumption that any Arab force that engaged the IDF on the battlefield would be defeated quickly and devastatingly. If that perception is lost, then Israel has in fact suffered a significant military defeat that will have resounding political consequences.

Obviously, nothing we have said here is not thoroughly known to the Israelis. Therefore, the question that needs to be answered is: What exactly they are doing? In particular, this question must be answered: Given that the Israelis have not achieved their goals using the air campaign, why are they choosing to continue it? It is interesting to note that this is not only our question. It is a question that we have had expressed to us by Israelis and Arabs, including those in Lebanon. The perception is that Israel could defeat Hezbollah if it chooses. That view persists. The question is why they have not yet done so. Some potential explanations:

1.The air campaign is actually proceeding as expected. This is on an accelerating curve in which little progress will be apparent until a threshold is reached, at which point Hezbollah's infrastructure will suddenly crumble.

2. Israel has had a massive intelligence failure, deeper than the one that happened in 1973. Israeli intelligence underestimated the maturity of Hezbollah and the robustness of its command and control. The Israelis failed to understand the militants' rocketry capabilities or the sophistication of their defensive positions in south Lebanon. They made assumptions about Hezbollah's capabilities that were simply wrong.

3. Israel knew of Hezbollah's capabilities. They understood that a broad ground attack on Hezbollah would involve massive Israeli casualties. They saw the rocket attacks as less costly than a major ground offensive and therefore went to an air campaign to inflict as much damage possible without incurring unacceptable losses.

4. Israel could defeat Hezbollah but is concerned that the costs of an occupation would outweigh the strategic benefits. Therefore, they are not taking ground that they would have to hold in counterinsurgency operations.

5. Israel has tried the air campaign, hoping that it would work. However, Israel has a plan B standing by that would involve a conventional assault along the lines we have discussed before.

6. Israel intends to broaden the war beyond Hezbollah, toward its patrons in Syria and Iran, and is biding its time in doing this.

All of these are plausible explanations. In figuring out which is most plausible, we must begin with a core premise: From the Israeli point of view the current situation, which leaves Hezbollah in a military draw and a political victory, is unacceptable. There are many reasons for this but for Israel, retaining the IDF's reputation for invincibility is an absolute requirement. Ending the war with the perception that a subnational organization can fight the IDF to a draw is not acceptable, regardless of the level of exertion required.

Seen through this lens, which we are confident shows Israeli thinking, the air campaign can be allowed to continue by itself only if battle damage assessment (BDA) shows that it will shortly prove fruitful. We do not have access to Israeli BDA, and we have heard that there is serious debate among Israel's military leaders over the status of the war, with the army questioning air force estimates. However, in our view, there is nothing that is likely to happen in the next few days that will change Hezbollah's operational capabilities.

Whether this was the result of an intelligence failure or of concern about Hezbollah's capabilities, at this point, the Israelis have little choice but to accept the reality and the casualties. They have mobilized a substantial force, clearly in anticipation that it might be needed for offensive operations. Whether Israel is drawn into counterinsurgency or not, retaining the perception of military supremacy supersedes all other considerations. We expect that a Plan B ground offensive was always present as an option, but whether it was hardwired into the plan or not is no longer an issue. Unless the Israelis plan to come out of the war with Hezbollah more powerful than ever, and if the air campaign doesn't suddenly work, they must go in on the ground.

Israel does not have the reach for Iran. The Israelis could launch nuclear weapons, but that simply isn't an option politically. As for Syria, if Israel toppled al Assad, his successor regime would be worse unless Israel would want to occupy Syria. The United States cannot pacify Iraq with 135,000 troops; Israel doesn't have that many to devote to an occupation. Plus, the IDF has never captured a major enemy city in its history, declining to go into Beirut. If attritional warfare bothers Israel, taking Damascus is not an option. The invasion of Syria is not on the table, although selective air attacks are possible.

The widening of the war is not a serious military option. A cease-fire at this time would be politically disastrous for Israel. It must, given its options, try to inflict a decisive defeat on Hezbollah, and a cease-fire would deny Israel that opportunity. The political effect on the region would be dramatic. It may well be that the Israelis have no appetite for casualties or counterinsurgency. It may be that their view of Hezbollah is that it is more an irritant than a threat. Nevertheless, the current evolution of this conflict forces them to make some dramatic decisions.

We note that the war is routinized. That should not be taken as proof that more dramatic events are not being planned. If it turns out that Israel declines major ground operations and accepts a cease-fire, the political map of the region -- geographically and psychologically -- would change decisively and to Israel's massive disadvantage. Thus we must assume that with cease-fires approaching and no decision on the ground, Israel will shift its strategy.

Good morning, antiarabs. Did you have a good night sleep or you had a nightmare?

Review your history and even biblical references and check Israel. That would give you some ideas the role of Israel. Check why the Nazis wanted to make Jewish race extinct. I got nothing against Jews. I used to work for them but I can tell you that I never got a raise for several years. They are shreud businessmen. Many are unscrupulous. Among the richest in America and in other countries are the Jews. What makes them so successful? It's not only their hard work and business ability. It's how they abuse and take advantage of workers and people. How they try to beat the system. How they influence politics and the government.

Regarding withdrawal, you're comprehension s u c k s. Have you never heard of withdrawal method?

By the way, one of my questions went like this: Are you g a y? That word was deleted so I'm now repeating it.

[quote]Anyone with a basic knowledge of Middle East history knows that peace has been elusive in this region since Israel was founded as an independent state in 1948. Since 1967 alone, Israel has been attacked by its Arab neighbors a number of times, each time repelling these unprovoked conflicts successfully.

Israel, a tiny slice in the vast Mideast area, is the only democratic regime there and has been the staunchest ally of the United States for years. Both countries share the same ideals of freedom, both face a common enemy, and it's not surprising that the U.S. would support Israel's actions to fight the fascist tactics of Hezbollah, a terrorist organization financed by Iran which has repeatedly announced its plan to put Israel off the map.

The above facts are not necessarily my position. I just want to bring up the other side of the coin. Of course whatever the history says, it doesn't erase the fact that Israel supported by the US is the aggressor and culprit. Imagine, attacking an entire nation just to recover one young soldier. It's like burning the whole house and building just to find a lost dog.[/quote]
Israel was attacked by a terrorist orgainization recognized by the EU, US, Japan, and even China, which that organization kidnapped 2 Israeli soldiers. Yet you call the Israelis the aggressor? And to further obscure your justification, you ignore the facts. This is plain outright stupid, Macy.

For the record, there are no innocents in the ME regarding the Israeli-Palestinian issue, which is what this war is about BTW. In this specific instance however, Israel does have the moral ground who gave ample warning to the civilian population to evacuate. Most did not heed that warning much like most in the Katrina area did not heed that warning either. If you try to bring in the argument that I am against Arabs in general, then I will submit to you that any terrorist organization, as defined by the UN, US state Dept, and Interpol should summarily die. This includes the FANC, Michigan militia, Islamic Jihad, and Hamas.

Hudson, it was a nice piece you wrote about Israel and Hezbollah.

All Israel's actions have the blessings of America and could have been dictated by the latter. Israel understimated Hezbollah's strength. This attack and invasion was after several years of preparation; and not because of one young Israel soldier's abduction. Despite the destructions and killings they (Israel) brought, it's just the beginning. It's just a testing ground for more aggressive and selfish missions to come. Israel and the US have a mid-term and long term goal in the region with one purpose...to control and dominate. Iraq has been taken and the US is eyeing Iran. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kwait, Jordan are on the US side if not staying neutral. But if worse comes to worst, expect Arabs and Muslims to come to their brothers' rescue. In addition, China and Russia are just on the side ready to help America's enemies. These are all written in the wall. One day, we can see the world against only three nations: US, UK and Israel. Or even the world against only one, America.

[quote]Good morning, antiarabs. Did you have a good night sleep or you had a nightmare?

Review your history and even biblical references and check Israel. That would give you some ideas the role of Israel. Check why the Nazis wanted to make Jewish race extinct. I got nothing against Jews. I used to work for them but I can tell you that I never got a raise for several years. They are shreud businessmen. Many are unscrupulous. Among the richest in America and in other countries are the Jews. What makes them so successful? It's not only their hard work and business ability. It's how they abuse and take advantage of workers and people. How they try to beat the system. How they influence politics and the government.[/quote]
Glad to see Hitler's message is alive and well with you. I guess his 1000 year rein still holds true, don't you think? If you can read, take a look at some books and analyses that link the Muslim Brotherhood with Neo=Nazi and Nazi movements, both in WWII and now.

[quote]Good morning, antiarabs.Did you have a good night sleep or you had a nightmare?
[/quote]

I am not antiarab per se, I simply state it as is.
And nightmares perhaps are something that are more akin to your nature, so you ask.

[quote]Review your history and even biblical references and check Israel. That would give you some ideas the role of Israel. [/quote]

Few are those among you who read as much history and from as diverse and obscure sources as I did.

Bible I have read too, Old Testament books as well as New Testament.
I must admit that I didn't comprehend it, the book didn't strike me and didn't make much sense to me until after I reached my 25th year.
And when I FINALLY understood it I was amazed , truly amazed by it as by nothing ever before.

Keep in mind that I am the same person who was reading phragments of Ancient Greeks and books of Modern European Philosophers and having ZERO difficulty comprehending their most complex concepts at the age of 16-17.

That's how much more advanced and complex the Bible is as compared to Wetern books.

[quote]Check why the Nazis wanted to make Jewish race extinct. I got nothing against Jews. I used to work for them but I can tell you that I never got a raise for several years. They are shreud businessmen. Many are unscrupulous. Among the richest in America and in other countries are the Jews. What makes them so successful? It's not only their hard work and business ability. It's how they abuse and take advantage of workers and people. How they try to beat the system. How they influence politics and the government.[/quote]

I think you would do good in Germany under Hitler.

[quote]Regarding withdrawal, you're comprehension s u c k s. Have you never heard of withdrawal method?[/quote]

One of the most impressive strategic withdrawals in History with - ensuing great success - took place under the command of Russian General Koutuzoff, in 1812 under Borodino.
It was done to save troops from total annihilation and fight another day.
Eventually this strategic move of Koutuzoff led to defeat of French and collapse of Napoleon.
Now, where do you see among Arabs an equal of Napoleon, where do you see Hezbollah commanding an army as superior to Israel's as Napoleon's Army was compared to Russians?

Therefore I don't see the justification for Israeli withdrawal, other than if they had some ****her reaching , obscured from ordinary views goals that induce them to willfully create the perception that they are not able to fight Hezbollah.

So, it's either that or else they just lack the understanding of Arab mentality and making a big mistake by following the systematic pattern of resorting to half-measures and withdrawing in absence of total, decisive victory.

[quote]By the way, one of my questions went like this: Are you g a y? That word was deleted so I'm now repeating it.[/quote]

I don't give rats behind if you think I am g a y or not, so you are free to assume as you wish.

[quote]Hudson, it was a nice piece you wrote about Israel and Hezbollah.

All Israel's actions have the blessings of America and could have been dictated by the latter. Israel understimated Hezbollah's strength. This attack and invasion was after several years of preparation; and not because of one young Israel soldier's abduction. Despite the destructions and killings they (Israel) brought, it's just the beginning. It's just a testing ground for more aggressive and selfish missions to come. Israel and the US have a mid-term and long term goal in the region with one purpose...to control and dominate. Iraq has been taken and the US is eyeing Iran. Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Kwait, Jordan are on the US side if not staying neutral. But if worse comes to worst, expect Arabs and Muslims to come to their brothers' rescue. In addition, China and Russia are just on the side ready to help America's enemies. These are all written in the wall. One day, we can see the world against only three nations: US, UK and Israel. Or even the world against only one, America.[/quote]

Again, this is the most idiotic post. Hezbollah's decision to increase operations against Israel was not taken lightly. The leadership of Hezbollah has not so much moderated over the years as it has aged. The group's leaders have also, with age, become comfortable and in many cases wealthy. They are at least part of the Lebanese political process, and in some real sense part of the Lebanese establishment. These are men with a radical past and of radical mind-set, but they are older, comfortable and less adventurous than 20 years ago. Therefore, the question is: Why are they increasing tensions with Israel and inviting an invasion that threatens their very lives? There are three things to look at: the situation among the Palestinians, the situation in Lebanon and the situation in the Islamic world. But first we must consider the situation in Hezbollah itself.

There is a generation gap in Hezbollah. Hezbollah began as a Shiite radical group inspired by the Iranian Islamic Revolution. In that context, Hezbollah represented a militant, nonsecular alternative to the Nasserite Fatah, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and other groups that took their bearing from Pan-Arabism rather than Islam. Hezbollah split the Shiite community in Lebanon -- which was against Sunnis and Christians -- but most of all, engaged the Israelis. It made a powerful claim that the Palestinian movement had no future while it remained fundamentally secular and while its religious alternatives derived from the conservative Arab monarchies. More than anyone, it was Hezbollah that introduced Islamist suicide bombings.

Hezbollah also has a split personality, however; it is supported by two very different states. Iran was radically Islamist. Syria, much closer and a major power in Lebanon, was secular and socialist. They shared an anti-Zionist ideology, but beyond that, not much. Moreover, the Syrians viewed the Palestinian claim for a state with a jaundiced eye. Palestine was, from their point of view, part of the Ottoman Empire's Syrian province, divided by the British and French. Syria wanted to destroy Israel, but not necessarily to create a Palestinian state.

What you should do is take a Mideonite point of view on the whole affair. That might assist you with your learning.

Finally, the US is not a traditional colonial power. Never has been, never claimed to be except for a brief moment in our history: 1898-1912. The US does have economic interests in the region, obviously. However, so does France, UK, China, and Russia. Some are for pure economic goals, like the US, and some are more obscure poltical goals, Like Russia. Despite the fall of communism in Russia, Russia still sees Syria, Iran, Lebenon, and a Socialist Iraq as key allies against the West (US, UK, Feance, etc.).

Just a couple of things antiwhatever:

1. You still didn't get what I meant by withdrawal method. Why did I mention either your girl friend or wife who might hate you for the "withdrawal"? It has something to when having s e x ! What a small brain you got dude!

2. You said you were not taken in the military service; so I asked if you're G A Y. That's all I wanted to say and ask.

[quote]take a look at some books and analyses that link the Muslim Brotherhood with Neo=Nazi and Nazi movements, both in WWII and now.[/quote]


Hudson has the point there - Neo-Nazis do have links with Arabs and "Muslim Brotherhood" just as they have links with www.fairus.org and similar fascist, immigrant hating organizations in America.

[quote]The country is under severe attack. Israel is in a
'Kill em All" mode. You know eventually if hezboallah weaken, aid will have to come to their side to keep Isarael from invading their land again. You would fight to keep the sovereignty of your land...would you not? They will almost have no choice but to stand side by side and fight for their land if outside help does not come and back up Hezba. Hezzba drove them out before when they invaded. Thats exactly why they are on the border as "Freedom Fighters" to keep Israel out.[/quote]
4now,
I seriously hope you are not considering Hezbollah as a freedom fighter orgainization?

For the record, here is what Hezzbollah has done against Israel and other nations: Known or suspected to have been involved in numerous anti-US and anti-Israeli terrorist attacks, including the suicide truck bombings of the US Embassy and US Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 and the US Embassy annex in Beirut in September 1984. Three members of Hizballah"”˜Imad Mughniyah, Hasan Izz-al-Din, and Ali Atwa"”are on the FBI's list of 22 Most-Wanted Terrorists for the hi******* in 1985 of TWA Flight 847 during which a US Navy diver was murdered. Elements of the group were responsible for the kidnapping and detention of US and other Westerners in Lebanon in the 1980s. Hizballah also attacked the Israeli Embassy in Argentina in 1992 and the Israeli cultural center in Buenos Aires in 1994. In fall 2000, Hizballah operatives captured three Israeli soldiers in the Shab'a Farms and kidnapped an Israeli noncombatant whom may have been lured to Lebanon under false pretenses.
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/hizballah.htm
http://www.ict.org.il/inter_ter/orgdet.cfm?orgid=15

Now, let us also go back to 1958 and 1982, which the US was involved in an international force. In 1958, President Eisenhower sent 14,000 teoops to help President Camille Chamoun opposition in an attempted coup d'tah, Ub 1982, under President Reagan, US troops were sent in as part of an international force, along with French, Italian, and UK. When the Marine barracks, the US Embassy, and confrontatinoal attacks toward French and US positions. Syria was directly involved with some of the confrontations and even captured an American A-6 pilot.

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In all honesty, I respect all your opinions and positions about the current Lebanon crisis; even if you're all a bit on the side of Israel. But think about what Israel is doing NOW...not in the past. As we discuss this, many more innocent civilians are bombed and killed. Israel cannot do anything if the local people support and like Hezbollah. Even if they wipe out the entire Lebanon, the few remaining Lebanese will still be with Hezbollah who they look up as their benefactors and protectors. In the ultimate analysis, Israel has no business bombing and attacking another country. Israel MUSY stop NOW. America MUST make them stop. That's all there to it. This is not the time to figure out the history and who is stronger and who is more to blame. People are dying by the hundreds each day. Don't you guys have any compassion left in your hearts?

Macy,
1. DO you suppoet UN resolution 181, calling for both a palestinian and Israel states?

2. Name a war, in particular with a dense populated region, where civilians were not killed?

3. If you are considering Israel at fault, then you are also suggesting that Hezbollah was correct in kidnapping Israeli soldiers and the attacks on the multinational forces in the 1980's.

4. Finally, history is very much part of this since it is history that drives much of who, what, why, and to what extent each participant conducts, formulates, and prepares in such conflicts.

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Israel by invading Lebanon and by killing and targeting civilians, children and women proved that it is indeed a terrorist state financed by US tax payers.
Israel like the Nazis applies a group responsibility. Nazis for one killed German soldier shoot and killed 10 civilians.
As well Nazis as Israelis conduct regular air strikes against civilians and civilian infrastructure.

Was milk factory connected to Hezbollah?
Was a Christian-Lebanese village related to Hezbollah?

Bush and the whole Congress ruled by the Jews and under ARC command.
Are you Americans in your own country?
Why US supports Israeli terrorism?

Do not vote for any politician supporting the state of hate Israel.

[quote]Israel by invading Lebanon and by killing and targeting civilians, children and women proved that it is indeed a terrorist state financed by US tax payers.
Israel like the Nazis applies a group responsibility. Nazis for one killed German soldier shoot and killed 10 civilians.[/quote]
So, Hizbollah is not at fault for kidnapping 2 Israeli soldiers for ransom. In most parts of the world, this is considered an act of war.

[quote]Was milk factory connected to Hezbollah?
Was a Christian-Lebanese village related to Hezbollah?[/quote]
So did Clinton bombing a Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia, boming a chemical factory in Sudan which was suspected of links to Al Queda, and so was Clinton when sending tomahawks across Pakistan to bomb suspected Al Queda hideouts, but instead hit a village or just empty rock. Currently, we do not know all the facts about the factory such aa who the owner(s) are and whether or not the factory was suppoeting Hezbollah itself. If either case is true, then it became a legitimate target under the rules of war.

[quote]Bush and the whole Congress ruled by the Jews and under ARC command.
Are you Americans in your own country?
Why US supports Israeli terrorism?[/quote]
Let me guess, are you ant-semitic, Maria?

All Mexican Illegal Aliens are Hezbollah Supporters and members of Hitler-Communist-Nazi-Terrorist-Arab-Muslim-Brotherhood !!!

Maria, most share your views including many Americans. I maintain my position that Americans (that includes me) are basically nice people; love freedom and against wars. It's Bush and the US Foreign Policy that s u c k s.

Perhaps we should define what "terrorist" or "terrorism" is. It's the most abused terminology these days most oftenly used by Bush and his partners in crime. Hezobollah is not a terrorist organization. It is a resistance movement. It was not even in existence in the past.

To me, I define terrorism as someone or a country that attacks and invades another for a selfish motive...maybe oil, control of the region, economic manipulation, military strategy, etc. Other than the World Trade bombing the story of which has not been completely determined yet, America has never been attacked or invaded by another. It us America that invaded other countries directly or indirectly. In third world countries, the US uses local agents to serve America's interest. The US goes as far as eliminating leaders who are unfriendly to the US. The US has the history of supporting evil leaders as long as US interests are protected. Who can forget Panama's Gen. Noriega? He was spoiled by the US for 20 years only to be dumped in the end. Worse, he was kidnapped by the US Marines in his own country. I hope you have seen the documentary film "Panama Deception".

macyuhoo, you sound like a typical Mexican Illegal Alien !