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quote: Originally posted by rayban_11366: hello, I did not come to this forum because of frustration... There is no solution about this type of case, at least not for me.Please follow this link, http://www.uscis.gov/err/L1%20-%20Legalization%20Applic...ec172007_13L1245.pdf, it is a public copy provided from USCIS. i had similar letter which stated about dismissed my case since they did not considerd my affidavit valid. Eventhough all the affidavits were notarized, i gave those persons personal phone numbers, celle numbers address eamil you name it. Immigration told me that they could not contact or verify those affidavits. which is straight lie. well what should i do ? can i renew anything (work card)? take care .
hello folks, as far as i know in this type of case there is no deportation. i still have my state valid id. can i fly to other state without any hassale, like new jersey to california ?
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this is a hopeless case coz uscis doesnt give a **** about the applicants. so frustrating
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The I-687 CSS/Newman/Lulac cases are very different from any other type of case. This is due to many reasons, for one thing no US citizens are involved, this opens the door to fowl play. Immigrants don’t have the same rights Americans do. Therefore the USCIS can behave in an un-American way, because no Americans are directly involved. Initially, some people were successful. This is because the Government felt an obligation to approve enough to avoid getting themselves back into another big lawsuit. Some people were approved who had little, or zero evidence. They were very lucky. Others were not so lucky. Some who had strong cases were denied, due to being later in the timeline. When it became apparent that Peter Schey and the other litigators who fought for the settlement, had lost interest and would no longer fight for justice. The USCIS acted like a school bully, when the teacher had gone home. Everyone left standing, got denied across the board. Is there any possible chance??? ….NOPE. All appeals will be denied, right or wrong. How can they get away with this??? Because no Americans are watching, and no Americans care, not even Peter Schey. We’re all dead in the water.
The only thing un-American about America, is the USCIS.
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I know some people got approved without interview, and some people got approved from the first time and the only evidence they have is affidavit. One person I know got approved with one affidavit and in the interview the immigration officer only asked him what his name and where he live. So basically one person got approved with one immigration officer could be denied with other immigration officer and vise versa.
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Just for the record, I had 4 scheduled interviews with 3 different immigration officers. During my final interview I was told “we are going to start in 1982 and go over every year, every month, week, day, and hour if I have to.” In the end I got denied because “it appears that your divers license wasn’t renewed on time.” In fact my DL was renewed on time, the officer saw a lapse because I had lost my wallet in the eighties and got a replacement DL. I submitted absolute proof from the DMV, but they went ahead with the denial knowing that they were wrong. They said I could appeal it. All of the happened because I complained about an abusive officer. Warning: on the front page of the USCIS website, there is a link where they welcome reports of misconduct and abuse. NEVER use it… read the above.
The only thing un-American about America, is the USCIS.
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quote: Originally posted by crazyberns: Hi guys i'm new to this forum. Here's my problem, I applied for CSS/Lulac and got denied. I sent a letter to the Special Master and I'm patiently waiting for their decision but it's been 7 months already and still no decision yet. I even sent them a letter and asking them if they can expedite the process to re-open my case so that I can renew my work permit and still there's no reply from them. So anyway, my questions are, since i applied for I-687 and my case is now closed, is it gonna affect any of of the new application that I'm gonna apply to USCIS like work petition or marriage to a citizen? Is there a possibility that I'll be deported, now that my case has been closed? Thanks in advance and appreciate all your help.
Hi it's me again and it' been almost 2 years. Just an update, i'm still out of status and just doing odd jobs here and there to survive (under the table kind of thing). It's hard for me because I cannot renew my work permit and driver's license. The feeling is like living in prison. Anyway, last February of 2007 I met the love of my life and is a US citizen and we plan to get married next year (church wedding). Just to let you know that this is a legitimate marriage and we are very much in love. My question is, would USCIS grant me a permanent resident status after marrying my US citizen fiancee even though I had a denied I-687 application? Would it affect her application and would it matter to the adjudications officer? If for example my application has been granted/approved, as per USCIS' website the applicant should go back home to his home country where he/she was born while the petition is pending. Any help or advice would be highly appreciated. Thanks guys.
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Hi Crazyberns, Without going back and reading your posts, how did you originally enter the US? If you were inspected, your wife will be able to file for you and you should be able to adjust here. If you entered without inspection, it's another story. Your wife can file, but you will need to adjust your status in your country of origin. Depending on circumstances, a waiver might be necessary as well.
Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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If you have to return to the home country it'll be a I-601 waiver I'm afraid. Those are not easy to get approved but not impossible. Try Immigrate2us for more info on that process. Good luck.
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quote: Originally posted by Brit4064: If you have to return to the home country it'll be a I-601 waiver I'm afraid. Those are not easy to get approved but not impossible. Try Immigrate2us for more info on that process. Good luck.
For Mexico, they actually have a pretty high success rate as long as there are no multiple EWIs or criminal convictions to deal with.
Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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quote: If you were inspected, your wife will be able to file for you and you should be able to adjust here.
This is not necessarily the case. The USCIS can always deny any application, especially if you have already been denied for something like an I-687. They would argue that you have lived in the US for 25+ years never gotten married, then after your I-687 gets denied you get married? Nope!!!! Love or no love, real or not.. it’s fraud.
The only thing un-American about America, is the USCIS.
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quote: Originally posted by unique: quote: If you were inspected, your wife will be able to file for you and you should be able to adjust here.
This is not necessarily the case. The USCIS can always deny any application, especially if you have already been denied for something like an I-687. They would argue that you have lived in the US for 25+ years never gotten married, then after your I-687 gets denied you get married? Nope!!!! Love or no love, real or not.. it’s fraud.
Maybe you're right but what if you just met and found this person that's really meant for you? Or what if you're not ready to settle down yet at that time? The issue here is not just to be legalized, but this is a real commitment that we are talking about here. I know it took me so long to get married but that's reality because I just met her recently. It doesn't mean that if I didn't get married for the span of 25+ years I already committed fraud. That's being narrow minded and It doesn't make any sense. Thanks for that insight anyway.
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quote: Originally posted by ProudUSC: Hi Crazyberns,
Without going back and reading your posts, how did you originally enter the US? If you were inspected, your wife will be able to file for you and you should be able to adjust here. If you entered without inspection, it's another story. Your wife can file, but you will need to adjust your status in your country of origin. Depending on circumstances, a waiver might be necessary as well.
Thanks for your immediate reply ProudUSC. We got here as tourists when I was 5 and left by my parents (who separated that time) to a certain friend and she took care of me and sent me to school. I have all my school records as proof although I don't have my old passport and other documents to prove that I got here legally that time due to the fact that I always move from place to place. I think I misplaced them, I don't know. I applied for CSS Newman/lulac and was given a work permit for almost 2 years and had an interview. The judge denied my application because my answer did not match the one written in the application. I was so nervous that time that's why I answered incorrectly. That was my worst nightmare. Anyway, So you were saying that if I wasn't inspected, does that mean that I really have to go back to my home country eventhough I didn't spend my entire life there? Is it also the same as deportation? Although we all know that once you apply for lulac you won't be deported. Please correct me If I'm wrong. So, am I in big trouble here? Appreciate ur help guys. Thanks a lot!
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quote: Originally posted by crazyberns: quote: Originally posted by ProudUSC: Hi Crazyberns,
Without going back and reading your posts, how did you originally enter the US? If you were inspected, your wife will be able to file for you and you should be able to adjust here. If you entered without inspection, it's another story. Your wife can file, but you will need to adjust your status in your country of origin. Depending on circumstances, a waiver might be necessary as well.
Thanks for your immediate reply ProudUSC. We got here as tourists when I was 5 and left by my parents (who separated that time) to a certain friend and she took care of me and sent me to school. I have all my school records as proof although I don't have my old passport and other documents to prove that I got here legally that time due to the fact that I always move from place to place. I think I misplaced them, I don't know. I applied for CSS Newman/lulac and was given a work permit for almost 2 years and had an interview. The judge denied my application because my answer did not match the one written in the application. I was so nervous that time that's why I answered incorrectly. That was my worst nightmare. Anyway, So you were saying that if I wasn't inspected, does that mean that I really have to go back to my home country eventhough I didn't spend my entire life there? Is it also the same as deportation? Although we all know that once you apply for lulac you won't be deported. Please correct me If I'm wrong. So, am I in big trouble here? Appreciate ur help guys. Thanks a lot!
If your family entered the country legally via tourist visas, you should be able to adjust your status in the US once you are married and your spouse files the petition. However, since you cannot locate your documents that proved you entered legally, I'm not sure how that will work. The school records should help. Maybe someone else on the forum can jump in and help.
Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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quote: The issue here is not just to be legalized, but this is a real commitment that we are talking about here. I know it took me so long to get married but that's reality because I just met her recently. It doesn't mean that if I didn't get married for the span of 25+ years I already committed fraud. That's being narrow minded and It doesn't make any sense. Thanks for that insight anyway.
crazyberns, My friend, I believe you . You’re not understanding what I’m saying. I’m trying to tell you that the main function of the USCIS is to keep foreigners out of the USA at any cost. Since you are a CSS/Newman /LULAC applicant, this puts you into a very much worse situation than any other illegal alien. The USCIS has just denied your application for adjustment of status. You were also applying for a benefit that they hate.. If originally you entered without inspection, you have zero chance, because they will never in a million years grant you a waver. Warning: You have just gotten your I-687 denied. Under the law of the settlement agreement you cannot be deported. However if you get married, and apply under marriage, your application will be denied and you will be deported. By applying under marriage, makes you deportable!!! They cannot stop you from getting married, but you will not be able to live in the USA anymore. Your status will be adjusted from documented illegal alien, to deportee.
The only thing un-American about America, is the USCIS.
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quote: Originally posted by unique: quote: The issue here is not just to be legalized, but this is a real commitment that we are talking about here. I know it took me so long to get married but that's reality because I just met her recently. It doesn't mean that if I didn't get married for the span of 25+ years I already committed fraud. That's being narrow minded and It doesn't make any sense. Thanks for that insight anyway.
crazyberns, My friend, I believe you . You’re not understanding what I’m saying. I’m trying to tell you that the main function of the USCIS is to keep foreigners out of the USA at any cost. Since you are a CSS/Newman /LULAC applicant, this puts you into a very much worse situation than any other illegal alien. The USCIS has just denied your application for adjustment of status. You were also applying for a benefit that they hate.. If originally you entered without inspection, you have zero chance, because they will never in a million years grant you a waver. Warning: You have just gotten your I-687 denied. Under the law of the settlement agreement you cannot be deported. However if you get married, and apply under marriage, your application will be denied and you will be deported. By applying under marriage, makes you deportable!!! They cannot stop you from getting married, but you will not be able to live in the USA anymore. Your status will be adjusted from documented illegal alien, to deportee.
So, Unique, should he get married and just stay out of status? Why is it that a CSS/Newman/LULAC denial makes it so an immigrant can never adjust status? I'm going to look into this. This doesn't make sense. If you're right, then you are right on about USCIS being unfair.
Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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crazyberns, You shouldn't take this as legal advice but your CSS/Newman/LULAC really shouldn't affect your spouse's petition for you in the end unless there was an allegation of misrepresentation or fraud by USCIS. Of course it will come up and USCIS will look into it, but at the end of the day, they usually approve if it's a bona fide marriage. Because you do have this issue, however, please don't do this by yourself. Please have an attorney prepare and file everything. Most will also accompany you to the interview. Just be sure to be up front with the Attorney about the CSS/LULAC and give them as many documents about the application as possible. USCIS treats individuals with and without attorneys very, very differently.
Now the issue is your entry. It looks like you made a lawful entry but don't have the proof to back it up. Do your parents have copies of their old passport which shows the entry stamp or a copy of the I-94 they received when they entered? Using that, USCIS may be able to find evidence of your entry.
Are you 245(i) eligible? Was any other petition filed on your behalf along the way before April 30, 2001? Did an employer file an I-140 or labor certification for you?
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Mani: crazyberns, Are you 245(i) eligible? Was any other petition filed on your behalf along the way before April 30, 2001? Did an employer file an I-140 or labor certification for you?
Hi Mrs. Mani, thanks for that post. To be honest with you I wasn't aware of section 245i and there wasn't any petition filed on my behalf. I only applied for CSS Newman/Lulac and that's it. I googled the article and too bad I missed it. So what do you think should I do? Is there really a chance for me to adjust my status after marrying my fiancee? Anyway, you're definitely right and I should go with an attorney during an interview. Do you know any lawyer by any chance that can help? I think I'll just hope for the best. Thanks for your responses guys.
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quote: Originally posted by unique: [QUOTE]Warning: You have just gotten your I-687 denied. Under the law of the settlement agreement you cannot be deported. However if you get married, and apply under marriage, your application will be denied and you will be deported. By applying under marriage, makes you deportable!!! They cannot stop you from getting married, but you will not be able to live in the USA anymore. Your status will be adjusted from documented illegal alien, to deportee.
So you were saying that I have a small chance here or no chance at all? So I'm hopeless now? What do you think should I do if you're in my situation right now? Thanks!
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