I have a question.how can a spouse report to immigration that marriage is fraud with out getting them selves into trouble,say for instance,I married some one for love and that person writes to immigration to tell them lies that I married for green card,and yet the person has no proof how can this affect me?Can any one shed light on this for me,please!
Well it happens a lot, but the results can depend on the length of marriage, whether or not the USC spouse can prove it or not and is there any truth in the matter. If you or the person did marry for love, then really there is a very slim chance that USCIS will follow it up if there isn't much evidence.
Also the USC has to be careful not to purge themself, as if they say that they knew for sometime or knew that the immigrant only married for GC, but they went along with it and produced evidence at interview or for filing to help you get that, well they will likely get into trouble themselves, or won't have a leg to stand on. (well in most cases).
Do you or the person have a conditional GC or Perm one?
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SOM you are willing to help and advise someone who has a Green Card and being accused of fraud?
Wow I am changing my views about you now! lol
Actually I take that back...you can never change
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Originally posted by Sprint_girl07: SOM you are willing to help and advise someone who has a Green Card and being accused of fraud? Wow I am changing my views about you now! lol Actually I take that back...you can never change
Wow I am stoned ! I totally misread the situation and retracted the original PM; I replcaced it with
GET OUT YOU FRAUDSTER !!
Thank you Sprint
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Originally posted by omni: I have a question.how can a spouse report to immigration that marriage is fraud with out getting them selves into trouble,say for instance,I married some one for love and that person writes to immigration to tell them lies that I married for green card,and yet the person has no proof how can this affect me?Can any one shed light on this for me,please!
Why would someone get in trouble for reporting a crime against them???? I am sure they know the situation better than anyone. As a US Citizen, they are more credible than a scam artist foreigner.
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Originally posted by SonofMichael: You mean pergur ; purging oneself would also be bad
If you're going to correct someone, SOM, at least get it right yourself. The word is perjure.
Omni, as far as accusations of fraud go, the USCIS are quite used to hearing this sort of thing when a marriage breaks up and take them with a grain of salt. Concrete evidence needs to be provided to them for them to take it seriously, and as Sprint said, the length of the marriage and the evidence provided in the first place can be a factor.
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Originally posted by SonofMichael: You mean pergur ; purging oneself would also be bad
If you're going to correct someone, SOM, at least get it right yourself. The word is perjure.
Omni, as far as accusations of fraud go, the USCIS are quite used to hearing this sort of thing when a marriage breaks up and take them with a grain of salt. Concrete evidence needs to be provided to them for them to take it seriously, and as Sprint said, the length of the marriage and the evidence provided in the first place can be a factor.
That is how I spelled it. Yes, USCIS is also quite used to hearing about how people suddenly no longer wanted to be married as soon as they goet their green card. This is called marriage fraud.
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Oh editing your post to correct your words doesn't count lol
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Originally posted by Smeagolrocks: In my opinion, ff the marriage is fraud the spouse is part of the fraud.
Alomg those lines; if a woman gets raped, she was asking for it, if someone gets robbed, they deserved it and if someone gets murdered, he should be sent to jail.
The stupidity of the self righteous is never ending
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Originally posted by Smeagolrocks: In my opinion, ff the marriage is fraud the spouse is part of the fraud.
Not necessarily. There are spouses that thought their partners were completely sincere and were so blinded by love, their good luck or whatever, that they failed to see the warning signs and are completely blindsided when it happens.
There are also plenty of others who get bitter and twisted when the marriage breaks down for other reasons (especially fault on their part) and will tell a divorce judge, immigration and anyone else who'll listen the most horrific things to get back at their ex.
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I do not believe in vindictiveness. We must all help each other and be nice to each other. What goes around comes around naturally. If you are nice then life will be nice to you back. It would be good and healthy for people to forgive and move on, but often the fraudster gets the police involved to create a false VAWA claim. People have to protect themselves. Nobody should be sent to jail by someone who defrauded them. That's ridiculous. People report fraud to protect themselves from being arrested for VAWA; not to be vindictive. If you defraud someone and try to get them arrested on false charges, you can not then complain that they are being vindictive. Fraud victims were not "blinded by love" but blinded by deceit.
Originally posted by Darkforce: I do not believe in vindictiveness. We must all help each other and be nice to each other. What goes around comes around naturally. If you are nice then life will be nice to you back. It would be good and healthy for people to forgive and move on, but often the fraudster gets the police involved to create a false VAWA claim. People have to protect themselves. Nobody should be sent to jail by someone who defrauded them. That's ridiculous. People report fraud to protect themselves from being arrested for VAWA; not to be vindictive. If you defraud someone and try to get them arrested on false charges, you can not then complain that they are being vindictive. Fraud victims were not "blinded by love" but blinded by deceit.
When did VAWA come in to it? Lets not forget that we don't know the OP's exact situation. For all we know, they've been married long enough to have LPR, in which case, there's no VAWA.
As was pointed out, the length of the marriage, the type of residency held and the evidence provided in the first instance count for a lot. At what point does it stop being considered for fraud? 2 years, if you go by USCIS standards.
The fact of the matter is that the USCIS are used to hearing ludicrous claims from people that have been married outside the period they consider fraud will be outed. They require absolute proof to take claims of fraud seriously, not just the rantings of a bitter spouse.
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Originally posted by omni: I have a question.how can a spouse report to immigration that marriage is fraud with out getting them selves into trouble,say for instance,I married some one for love and that person writes to immigration to tell them lies that I married for green card,and yet the person has no proof how can this affect me?Can any one shed light on this for me,please!
It can be enough to put a wrench in an otherwise smooth adjudication. Doesnt matter if there is hardcore proof. If there were hardcore proof you would be going to court to face a worse outcome than removal.
Circumstancial evidences submitted and timeline events will be considered when adjudicating your petition.
Only you know what she may have used against you or can be used against you. We dont.
USC does not have any worry about being implicated unless of course you implicate he/she. But then of course if alien does that, it would be an admission/implication of guilt on behalf of alien.
If the spouse reporting an allegation of fraud is a USC and has sufficient evidence to support that allegation, then USCIS will scutinise the case and might very well call the alien in for an interview if the alien is seeking further benefits. If the alien already has Naturalized, then chances are it would take significant evidence to force USCIS to consider revokation, or rescission.
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Originally posted by omni: I have a question.how can a spouse report to immigration that marriage is fraud with out getting them selves into trouble,say for instance,I married some one for love and that person writes to immigration to tell them lies that I married for green card,and yet the person has no proof how can this affect me?Can any one shed light on this for me,please!
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Originally posted by omni: I have a question.how can a spouse report to immigration that marriage is fraud with out getting them selves into trouble,say for instance,I married some one for love and that person writes to immigration to tell them lies that I married for green card,and yet the person has no proof how can this affect me?Can any one shed light on this for me,please!
Before the marriage to come to this country you loved your spouse, he/she was trust worthy, now when you are exposed, your criminal acts are catching up to you, you want to blame the other side. GET OUT OF THIS COUNTRY.
I am not racist. I am not anti-immigrant. I am AGAINST CRIMINALS, FRAUDSTERS, WHO DISOBEY THE LAW, BREAK THE LAW AND PERPETRATE THE FRAUD.
You may not like what I have to say but that does not mean I am wrong.
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