The Republican Party was formed to free those monkeys from slavery. The Democrats were committed to slavery.

The Republican Party and colored peoples were both victims of the Denocrats' Ku Klux Klan who's current leader is a Democrat Byrd.

The Republican Party opposed welfare which became a new form of slavery in this century.

The Republican Party opposes abortion which is a racist genocide of negro peoples.

With obama, the Republican party opposed voting for someone just because of their race; a man should be judged by his character, not his race !

I am not saying someone is ignorant based on a political campaign. I have friends and family who voted for McCain and I do not consider them ignorant. However, I have friends who voted for McCain because of their ignorance towards the candidates political views. If you can make a strong educated argument, I can respect it. These racists false posts are ignorant, and I unfortunatly see them more often from the republicans then the democrats. (not that there aren't ignorant democrats out there). I myself am an independent, who has voted republican in the past. Some of the obviously false statements posted are ignorant. Like I said, I can respect someone's view if it is educated. Unfortunately, many of these posts are not educated. Again, it is not ignorance based on politics, it is ignorance based on the posts and based on several conversations I have had with uneducated people. Do not try to have a political debate or any other type of debate if you are not educated on the issues.

I also do not understand why race cannot be pushed aside. Obama is a intelligent man who represents a much needed change. I am not going to say that he is going to be the best president. We will not know that for another four years. I just do not understand why any of you are pushing the race card. I understand that it was a factor in some peoples minds when they voted or did not vote for him, just like abortion was a factor is peoples minds for voting or not voting for McCain. Race should be put aside, and the issues should be addressed. I see why some people did not support Obama's views, but I do not see why someone would not support him because of his color.

For anyone who dares view actual history. Do you democrats know how and why the Republican party was born....... Time is up. It was to abolish slavery.

Partial List of accomplishments. Notice that the majority have to do with civil rights.

A few excerpts:

That law stated very clearly that slaves belonging to rebels were free. By signing the Emancipation Proclamation, President Lincoln was implementing that statute. Freeing the slaves was thus a political question that every Republican in Congress voted for, and every Democrat voted against.



This major civil rights advance -- what we now know as the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution -- is a purely Republican achievement, because every single Democrat in Congress voted against the 14th Amendment. That is another fact deftly omitted from American history textbooks these days: we owe our Constitution's guarantee of equal protection of the laws and due process to Republicans, and this bedrock of American civil rights was unanimously opposed by the Democrats.


The Democrats' opposition to Republican efforts to protect the civil rights of African-Americans lasted not just through the Reconstruction era, but well into the 20th Century. In the South, the terrorist wing of the Democratic Party, the Ku Klux Klan, virtually destroyed the Republican Party -- which did not recover enough to become a force in the region until President Reagan's message of freedom and equality for all prevailed in the 1980s.

To illustrate a point. NKT, you think you voted for the right guy. Explain how the tax plan will work to improve the condition of this country?

Talk about greed. Obama's message was nothing but selfish greed born of class envy. Every speech was about what he is going to give you. Not once did he tell people to be responsible. Tax cuts for all, free medical, free college, free free free. But lets stick it to the people who make over 250k. They can afford it. Idiots! Who do you think creates the jobs? Take away from that and you lose jobs. So much for your tax break. You won't have a job to have reduced taxes taken from.

Things have changed since the civil war. Not sure why you don't see that. A hundred years ago women could not vote, and Hiliary Clinton came close to running for president. Our country has gone through enormous change, which includes the political parties. What the republican and democrat party stood for when they were formed is not exactly what they stand for today. Maybe the republicans and democrats will seize to exist or drastically change in the next hundred years. You should support or not support a party's stance for what they stand for today, and not what they stood for 150 years ago.

150 years ago? Did you know there is a democrat senator still in office who was and probably still is a member of the KKK? Reagan 20 years ago. Things haven't changed that much in 20 years. The democrat KKK is still around.

Aside that. Please explain the tax plan. I still can't figure out the national benefit. All I see it doing is dragging us closer to a full blown depression. The stock market seems to agree with my consensus based on how it reacted the day of the victory.

I personally did not love either candidate when during the debates. Their speeches are written by their polictical campaign, which in my opinion, ruined McCain's chance on being elected. I went into the election undecided, but McCain's choice of VP and his constant attacks on Obama showed me that he is not the kind of man I want representing my country. Although I do believe Obama promised miracles that he will probably not be able to deliver, I believe McCain did the same. I also believe that Obama was well spoken and did not immaturely attack McCain during the debates. I was also not opposed to all of McCain's views, but I tended to side more with Obama on many issues that were important to me. His tax plan may not be perfect, but I do not have to much sympathy from the rich crying poverty. That is my view. Not everyone is going to be happy with every new plan he implements. That is just the way life works. You obviously have a different view then me regarding his tax plan, and I am sure it is for good reason. Again, I can respect an opinion as long as it is educated.

The stock market was dropping drastically before the election. I will not have that debate with you for another few months because our economy has been on a downward spiral for years. It will take time to repair, and I need to see if that is going to happen before I can even think it had anything to do with Obama's victory.

In case you won't look it up or think I'm making it up. Senator Byrd is your man. KKK member and democrat senator. Here is a tidbit.
Here he writes to another senator in 1944.


" I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

And the KKK supports the Republican's now. Not sure why you did not get that memo.

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The stock market was dropping drastically before the election. I will not have that debate with you for another few months because our economy has been on a downward spiral for years. It will take time to repair, and I need to see if that is going to happen before I can even think it had anything to do with Obama's victory.

The stock market reacts predictably following a win from either side. Even if it be just a few days. Its an indication of things to come. Review the 2 day trend following any candidates win. This is the worst showing in history.

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And the KKK supports the Republican's now. Not sure why you did not get that memo.

Actually, no they don't. They are very much aware of their negative stigma. They imply they do to help guarantee a democrat win. They also supported Obama. Why? They are hoping he makes such a mess that it re-ignites their movement. C'mon, think a little.

They do not support him. You just said so yourself. Voting for someone because you think that he will make a mess so the republicans can come back in is not support. C'mon, think a little.

I am also not sure why they think he will make a bigger mess then Bush. I do not think that is possible. There is only one way to go with the new presidency after Bush, and that is up.

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And the KKK supports the Republican's now. Not sure why you did not get that memo.

There's nothing wrong with being a Republican, that is, a "real" republican advocating for lower taxes, less regulation and smaller government.

However, that's now what we see today.

The GOP has been pushed aside by the people in 2008, but what can you expect when your own base consists of radicals, extremists, and those who can't see beyond their very own interests?

Look at what happened to Mitt Romney, he was slandered and destroyed by his very own party because of his religious beliefs, it was simply unfair and extremely low-class. Sure enough, it worked for the base, those evangelical nuts. They tried to apply the same thing to Obama during the presidential campaign and it backfired, why? Because most of the people do understand that "freedom of religion" is a right that does not alter in any way, not for the bad and not for the good, the qualifications of a person to hold office.

All I can say...Andrew Jackson, Herbert Hoover, George W. Bush... in no particular order!

All I can say... FDR, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Barack Obama ... in no particular order !

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They do not support him. You just said so yourself. Voting for someone because you think that he will make a mess so the republicans can come back in is not support. C'mon, think a little.

I am also not sure why they think he will make a bigger mess then Bush. I do not think that is possible. There is only one way to go with the new presidency after Bush, and that is up.

Let me spell it out. What does the KKK hope to accomplish? The enemy of my ENEMY is my friend. Meaning that even though the KKK is dem by default they will support someone else if it helps them in the long run against their bigger enemy. Plus the fact there was division within the group. Some supported obama based on what I said. Others supported mccain for obvious reasons.

1960s - Kennedy

"my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country. "


Fast Forward Life

2008 - Obama

Ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country.

Cha-ching CHANGE over 40-years. Quite drastic.

Education & Intelligence

Intelligence...you are talking about a guy who thinks we have 58 states. There goes your Harvard Law Degree.

Republicans

"The Republican Party was born in the early 1850's by anti-slavery activists and individuals who believed that government should grant western lands to settlers free of charge."

This defeats your slavery, racism remarks.

"The Republicans of the day worked to pass the Thirteenth Amendment, which outlawed slavery, the Fourteenth, which guaranteed equal protection under the laws, and the Fifteenth, which helped secure voting rights for African-Americans."

When this happened, Republicans were not that big. Yet, they fought for what was and is RIGHT.


"The Republican Party also played a leading role in securing women the right to vote. In 1896, Republicans were the first major party to favor women's suffrage. When the 19th Amendment finally was added to the Constitution, 26 of 36 state legislatures that had voted to ratify it were under Republican control. The first woman elected to Congress was a Republican, Jeanette Rankin from Montana in 1917."

Where was feminist, liberal Democrats? Oh wait a minute, Republicans work hard, bring prosperity and Democrats want to take all the credit for it.


http://www.gop.com/About/AboutRead.aspx?Guid=a747a888-0...41-94f4-2a3a6561f872

I am not sure where you got your 58 comment, but please send me the link. Lets not forget about the stupid comments said by the republicans during the election. I am thankful for all the reform you quoted. I do not hate all Republicans. Like I said I am a independent. However, your quotes are from one hundred years ago. Things have changed, views have changed. Not sure why you are having a hard time seeing that. The republicans are still admirable in their own right, and so are the democrats. However, I think your argument based on things that happened in the late 19th century and early 20th century are outdated. I do not believe they should represent what the parties stand for today. They should only represent what the country was like one hundred years ago. I hope a hundred years from now we have more then two dominating parties, b/c our country needs more change.