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Attention all American Citizens: please note that Jake01, the VWP cheat, will not answer those pesky questions she wishes to avoid...so all of you considering marrying ANY visa cheat or border jumper should understand that any of these scumbags are just trying to con you, trying desperately to snag a green card because these bottom feeders can't make it in their own country and have NO respect for the laws of OUR country....beware.
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quote: ex-husband and l were deported from US based on the denial of our political asylum.
..l was released under an order of supervision ..made my travel arrangemens.. legally divorced ..in US l met a man.. If we were to get married in Albania, he is a US citizen..What do we do first, file the I-130, then the waiver, does he need to submitt a letter with my waiver?
1. Try immigrate2us.net - they have a lot of threads and posts re: waivers and admissions after administrative violations of INA. 2. Were you granted voluntary departure or removed under final order of deportation? If latter is the case you may have really hard time gaining admission to US (approval of waiver) within 10 years of your departure. For legal advice consult an immigration attorney |
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S12 I am not going to reply to any more of your insults on this thread, as it is not fair to the person who originally started this thread, I have answered your Questions under the heading, "A note to some 12" Page 4,
I am Sorry Lori, for invading your space,
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you won't answer them because you lack the courage to do...because you know the answers will reveal your true intentions, your total lack of ethics and moral character and your unfailing willingness to disobey, disregard or otherwise disobey the laws of the United States of America.
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I DO understand where you're coming from Someone12, regarding illegals in the USA, and I AGREE with you 100% in that people who want to come to the USA should do it IN THE LEGAL MANNER. End of story. But here's the thing... Jake01 doesn't strike me as a "low-life" or bottom-feeder ...like, lets say my ex-husband! Now that man NEEDS to be deported! People with ulterior motives, who are here and trying their BEST to beat the system in any illegal manner, AND hurt others along the way... need to be deported. We seem to have enough 'problem' people here already...we certainly don't need any more! Jake said that she messed up. She and her husband certainly know she didn't do the right thing. She's been told by several other members that she is probably looking at the '10 year ban' ... I'm sure she would have liked to hear that 'everything will be ok' but she probably won't ! The fact that she's stated she'll be honest @ her interview ...tells me a lot too. Just look at many MANY of these other boards ... I've seen more posts from people asking how they beat the system. They're the ones we should be focusing on!!Too many times we are TOO QUICK to judge others...not knowing their situation. quote: Originally posted by Someone12:
you won't answer them because you lack the courage to do...because you know the answers will reveal your true intentions, your total lack of ethics and moral character and your unfailing willingness to disobey, disregard or otherwise disobey the laws of the United States of America.
God Bless America ! Love IT ....or LEAVE it !
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quote: But here's the thing... Jake01 doesn't strike me as a "low-life" or bottom-feeder ...like, lets say my ex-husband! Now that man NEEDS to be deported! People with ulterior motives, who are here and trying their BEST to beat the system in any illegal manner, AND hurt others along the way...need to be deported. We seem to have enough 'problem' people here already...we certainly don't need any more!
Very good point. But you see, the biggest problem is that this problem was allowed to come into existence in the first place. Now that it exists I personally see two conditions of getting to solution: 1. Much greater number of illegal immigrants must be deported than currently is (FUNDS must be allocated to that end). Legal quotas/CAPs should be significantly lowered. 2. Immigrants themselves must face the reality: that overpopulation in America is not in their interest (as well as natives) and should focus their energies and resourses on finding other countries to immigrate. Everything else is just details that obscure the bigger picture. |
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I agree with you 100% ~ on both points! Well said  quote: Originally posted by RationalE:
But you see, the biggest problem is that this problem was allowed to come into existence in the first place.
Now that it exists I personally see two conditions of getting to solution:
1. Much greater number of illegal immigrants must be deported than currently is (FUNDS must be allocated to that end).
Legal quotas/CAPs should be significantly lowered.
2. Immigrants themselves must face the reality: that overpopulation in America is not in their interest (as well as natives) and should focus their energies and resourses on finding other countries to immigrate.
Everything else is just details that obscure the bigger picture.
God Bless America ! Love IT ....or LEAVE it !
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quote: I agree with you 100% ~ on both points! Well said
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2. Immigrants themselves must face the reality: that overpopulation in America is not in their interest (as well as natives) and should focus their energies and resourses on finding other countries to immigrate.
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I can understand that you have issues here with illegal immigrants, as we do in the UK, but how does one immigrate to a country when you have no ties, I am here becuase of my Husband being a USC, if we were in the UK it would be the other way around because I am a british citizen, so we have ties to our own country, how would one find ties to a different country unless they can get employment, but its not going to work for marraige based immigration.
Hmmm the idea of running off to Jamaica sounds really good at the moment lol.
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quote: I can understand that you have issues here with illegal immigrants, as we do in the UK,
I personally don't have issues with anybody, but that doesn't negate the fact that issues exist, and one of illegal immigrants is what we see being discussed here on daily basis. quote: ..but how does one immigrate to a country when you have no ties, I am here becuase of my Husband being a USC, if we were in the UK it would be the other way around because I am a british citizen, so we have ties to our own country, how would one find ties to a different country unless they can get employment, but its not going to work for marraige based immigration.
It's not clear from above what is the point you are trying to make. quote: Hmmm the idea of running off to Jamaica sounds really good at the moment lol.
Go to Jamaica, if you wish, but one could as well go to Japan, South Korea or China (i.e. teaching English as a Second Language or else). I won't even mention Canada. And what's wrong with living in UK? |
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quote: Originally posted by RationalE: quote: I can understand that you have issues here with illegal immigrants, as we do in the UK,
I personally don't have issues with anybody, but that doesn't negate the fact that issues exist, and one of illegal immigrants is what we see being discussed here on daily basis. I didnt mean you personally, I meant on the whole.quote: ..but how does one immigrate to a country when you have no ties, I am here becuase of my Husband being a USC, if we were in the UK it would be the other way around because I am a british citizen, so we have ties to our own country, how would one find ties to a different country unless they can get employment, but its not going to work for marraige based immigration.
It's not clear from above what is the point you are trying to make. this was in answer to you, regarding finding other countries to immigrate, if you have no ties to a country it is going to be very difficult to immigrate there.quote: Hmmm the idea of running off to Jamaica sounds really good at the moment lol.
I only said about Jamaica as there is where I have always wanted to go on vacation to.Go to Jamaica, if you wish, but one could as well go to Japan, South Korea or China (i.e. teaching English as a Second Language). I won't even mention Canada.
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quote: I didnt mean you personally, I meant on the whole.
I didn't say you meant me personally. quote: this was in answer to you, regarding finding other countries to immigrate, if you have no ties to a country it is going to be very difficult to immigrate there.
1. Ties or no ties...One who has enough courage to immigrate to US should have the same to go somewhere else and face the same hurdles of adaptation. If one lacks such courage in the first place then one should never think of immigrating anywhere at all. 2. The major, most important question any and all immigrants must ask themselves before immigrating is: Am I going to be of use there, Am I going to be welcomed and able to legally settle there or Am I going to be perecieved as great burden by host nation and asked to leave all the time ? The answer should determine the destination (and not vice versa). |
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First, I just want to say that I am NOT taking sides here. I realize there are plenty of people with their own unique situations, and Jake seems to be one of them. Still, right now she is technically illegal...but she knows it. AND, as I said earlier in this post, there are tons of people with ulterior motives, trying to beat the system in any illegal manner, AND hurt others along the way. Those conniving, blood-****ing little parasites who cause US more harm than good ... THEY are the ones who need to GO!! Jake & Raindeer will have to face their own music ...and they know it. But she doesn't seem to be any threat ~ at least in MY eyes ! It blows my mind knowing that there are SO MANY unsavory characters who ARE the ones who are able to beat the system. These people HAVE no morals or scruples, yet they're the ones who ARE ABLE to weasel their way in to our country. THEY are the dangerous ones ...THEY have no conscience...THEY are EVIL, destructive and a detriment to society...yet they seem to make it in. This is a serious issue... THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO TRULY NEED TO GO BACK! WE need more HELP, and better screening processes to keep out the bad!! quote: Originally posted by RationalE: quote: 1. Ties or no ties...One who has enough courage to immigrate to US should have the same to go somewhere else and face the same hurdles of adaptation.
If one lacks such courage in the first place then one should never think of immigrating anywhere at all.
Correct me if I'm wrong, RatE...but didn't Jake & Raindeer live in the UK for some time before coming to the USA? Raindeer* IS a US Citizen, and has every right to be here. I don't know the laws of the UK, but I would think he TOO would face scrutiny there, should he choose to become a citizen. *Posted by Raindeer: I'm American by birth...British by the Grace of God! I'm fully prepared to loose my life in the protection and defense of both countries, I'm prior service US Army, and would proudly service in the British Forces sould the need arise, if a draft ever gets fired up in the UK, I will return to British soil and enlist in Royal Army to defend her, AS A US CITIZEN!quote: 2. The major, most important question any and all immigrants must ask themselves before immigrating is: Am I going to be of use there, Am I going to be welcomed and able to legally settle there or Am I going to be perecieved as great burden by host nation and asked to leave all the time ?
The answer should determine the destination (and not vice versa).
I was about to make a similar comment ~ you beat me to it !!  I know there are many countries in europe that will not let you in ... unless you have a job or skill that will be beneficial to them. Their 'screening' process, and standards are quite high...and if you don't meet up to their standards, you won't be permitted residency.
God Bless America ! Love IT ....or LEAVE it !
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quote: First, I just want to say that I am NOT taking sides here.
You obviously don't and that's commendable. quote: I realize there are plenty of people with their own unique situations, and Jake seems to be one of them. Still, right now she is technically illegal...but she knows it.
AND, as I said earlier in this post, there are tons of people with ulterior motives, trying to beat the system in any illegal manner, AND hurt others along the way. Those conniving, blood-****ing little parasites who cause US more harm than good ... THEY are the ones who need to GO!!
Jake & Raindeer will have to face their own music ...and they know it. But she doesn't seem to be any threat ~ at least in MY eyes !
It blows my mind knowing that there are SO MANY unsavory characters who ARE the ones who are able to beat the system. These people HAVE no morals or scruples, yet they're the ones who ARE ABLE to weasel their way in to our country. THEY are the dangerous ones ...THEY have no conscience...THEY are EVIL, destructive and a detriment to society...yet they seem to make it in. This is a serious issue... THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO TRULY NEED TO GO BACK! WE need more HELP, and better screening processes to keep out the bad!!
You have a good heart and keen perception. quote: Correct me if I'm wrong, RatE...but didn't Jake & Raindeer live in the UK for some time before coming to the USA? Raindeer* IS a US Citizen, and has every right to be here. I don't know the laws of the UK, but I would think he TOO would face scrutiny there, should he choose to become a citizen.
I haven't said anything about Jake & Raindeer living in UK before coming to USA, nor did I question the right of Raindeer to be here. I feel no need to correct you. quote: I was about to make a similar comment ~ you beat me to it !! I know there are many countries in europe that will not let you in ... unless you have a job or skill that will be beneficial to them. Their 'screening' process, and standards are quite high...and if you don't meet up to their standards, you won't be permitted residency.
Yes, there are many countries in Europe that will not let you in. But then there are people that may have better skills than you do. (Though, in case of Jake01 it's not a question. As UK Citizen she is free to go and work anywhere within EU). However, in general, I don't think that Europe is the right destination of choise for mass/individual migration nowdays[regardless of one's skills]. Just as US, Europe is a great place to visit or live (may even be better), but then again, just as US, Europe is facing it's own problems with overpopulation & immigration (even more than US) & certainly doesn't have a need for continuous influx of immigrants. One must consider those factors before immigrating anywhere and that's the point I was trying to make. Regards, RationalE  |
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No, no... I know you didn't say anything about Jake & Raindeer living in UK ..... I was trying to say that I thought that I read SOMEWHERE that they did live in UK ~ prior to coming to the U.S.. ?? I saw this posting & saw it as a statement that Raindeer was, at one time, in the UK. I was hoping that either one of them would comment on this ...? *Posted by Raindeer:
I'm American by birth...British by the Grace of God! I'm fully prepared to loose my life in the protection and defense of both countries, I'm prior service US Army, and would proudly service in the British Forces sould the need arise, if a draft ever gets fired up in the UK, I will return to British soil and enlist in Royal Army to defend her, AS A US CITIZEN!...no biggy !  quote: Originally posted by RationalE:
I haven't said anything about Jake & Raindeer living in UK before coming to USA, nor did I question the right of Raindeer to be here.
I feel no need to correct you.
God Bless America ! Love IT ....or LEAVE it !
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quote: ...no biggy !
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Since your both wondering...I'd be happy to answer that lingering question for you.
I've lived on/off in the UK for some 15 years now, rented/owned homes in serveral locations throughout England & Wales, and at one time I was a legal resident alien within the country. My first marraige was not to Jake01. That was years ago when I was younger, and had married a girl from Wales. We were living large at the time as I was employed by British Airways working in their computer department.
Happy ever after was not to be, in the fall of 94' both my wife & baby daughter were killed by a drunk driver in the UK. Needless to say my ties with & within Britain go way back. I'm extremely fond of the country, its culture & people. And yes Jake & I were in the UK together prior to, first, my return to the USA, and then she came over later that year, for what should have been a vacation for us both.
Given what I know now, and given our circumtances I honestly would prefer to take Jake & I, and our three kids (aka our K9s) all home to the UK. But do to circumtances behind my control, and horible mis-calculation of loyalty towards a very good friend of mine, its my fault that Jake blew her visa. She is not scamming me, nor did she arrive with mal-intent.
With all the banter flying back & forth about the law on this board, I'd like to point out that the writen law can't possibly cover every situation & possibility. Case in point, I have a friend from the UK who was present in the USA on 9/11, that day being the last day of their visa. US immigration law was not writen with the calculation in mind that a terriost event could or would shutdown the entire US national airspace, let alone for 24 hours. Of all those people, like my friend that day, and there was thousands of them, none of them got slapped with a ban for overstay! On 9/12 our officials had to consider the causality of what had happend the day before, and in that particular situation, common sense prevailed, as the officials were compeled to step in on behalf of all those visitors, and quite simply turn a blind eye to our blind "lady justice"...
Yes Jake & I will have to face the music with our officials here in the US, will shall have our day with which we can stand up & be counted. I for one am confident that immigration will be reasonable, yet fair with us, in what ever decision they arrive at where our case is concerned.
For myslef...my loyality first and foremost is to my wife, our dogs, and our home, then our family & freinds, and finally to the two nations I know as my home, the one I was born within, and the one which I've been given the priveldge to live, love, learn, and make a difference within on several fronts & levels.
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Dear Raindeer AND Jake01,
Thank you for your response. I thought I had read somewhere that you were in the UK and that both of you had moved here ... that's why I made the comments that I did. Thank you for clarifying that for me.
As far as I'm concerned personally...I'm glad to know that you both knew each other there in the UK. You see a lot of people on these boards who are totally against illegals (again, this is MY OWN opinion)...who have come here, and continue to come here with the intentions of JUST getting their green card! They (myself included) have been hurt, scammed, robbed...had their own lives overturned BY, as I said earlier in my post:
tons of people with ulterior motives, trying to beat the system in any illegal manner, AND hurt others along the way. Those conniving, blood-s_u_c_k ing little parasites who cause US more harm than good ... THEY are the ones who need to GO!! They're the ones trying to beat the system in an illegal fashion.
Your wife doesn't strike me as any threat, whatsoever...compared to many, MANY others! Yes, we all know that SOMEONE, somewhere (ok, lots of people) see her as illegal and want to throw her out of the USA.
I'll say again that I'm not taking sides of anyone in this particular case. Sadly, she probably IS subject to the 10 year ban...but if you both explain all the details, you might get lucky and have a sympathetic judge who will go easy on you BOTH !
I am sorry to hear of the tragedy with your wife and daughter back in 1994. I have NO SYMPATHY for Drunk drivers...maybe they should have their legs cut off, or worse AND remain in jail...so they have to suffer ~ although it's nothing to the loss of your wife & child... or any life !
You both sound like decent people to me. I wish you the best...whatever life brings you ! God Bless ! I hope you keep the board (or at least me) | |
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