My challenge to you is where did I call you a racial slur?
NOTE: whimsical does not count!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Beverly: thanks for posting on this thread, and I hope you will continue to do so. However, if you should prefer to communicate by PM or by email to webmaster@ilw.com, either way I will read what you have to say.
It has been brought to my attention that despite the connection between the two screen names - Beverly on this board and WhatMattersMost on Alipac.us - there could well be two people involved. For example, screen names could be shared by two room mates or two friends or two family members.
Regardless, I am proceeding under the belief that the post quoted below (from this thread: http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-566077-.html ) is by the person with the screen name Beverly on this board (the reason being the actual text of the message quoted).
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Anybody up for a little mischief? If so, come over and help me out at:
Its an ILLEGAL ALIEN site for perpetual criminal law breakers here illegally skirting every loop hole in the immigration system to avoid deporation. They are a nasty bunch of psycho IA's who personally attack me everytime I post articles to dispute their IA delusions of grandier.
I have been called every racist name under the sun and the mods are worthless. The Key attackers are:
EXPLORA, PROUD USC, Babybeh, Hudson.
If you have a minute sign up and help me drive them nuttier than they already are!
My screen name over there is Beverly. THANKS ALL!
I am concerned about two words in the message above: "mischief" and "drive". I invite discussion by the community, especially on the interpretation of these two words that is most favorable to Beverly. I once again repeat that no one on this board should feel that their opinion on any issue will influence me one way or another. I am going strictly by our rules posted at: http://discuss.ilw.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/902603441/m/78310062631 and by using the reasonable person standard.
I look forward to the community's thoughts on my post above.
Take a look at the Spanish thread (as I posted in your thread before) where she blatantly said she was out to destroy the threads I was running. How much clearer can it be than that?
Posted Feb 11, 6:52 PM Hide Post Beverly Senior Member
Posted Feb 9, 11:00 PM Hide Post EXPLORA: I SEE YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN YOUR MEDS TODAY, KEEP PLAYING GAMES AND I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GO COMPLETELY INSANE THIS TIME, BECAUSE UNLIKE YOU THIS BOARD IS NOT MY LIFE AND I WILL DESTROY EVERY ONE OF YOUR PRECIOUS LITTLE THREADS THAT YOU LIVE AND BREATHE FOR.
YOU MUST HAVE FORGOTTEN I CAN STOOP TO THE LEVEL OF OBSESSIVE RETARDS SUCH AS YOURSELF. YOU DO NOT OWN THIS BOARD, AND YOU DO NOT DICTATE WHO WHAT WHEN OR WHERE ANYONE POSTS. GROW UP CRYBABY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM FINISHING WHAT YOU START YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT BY NOW.
Bad intention and then blatantly saying what she'll do. That's disruption and intereference with the board and she did interfere and disrupt those threads unecessarily. And, before she tosses those exuses in again, she could've contacted you, Sam, and dealt with her issue. She wanted to retain some form of an exuse for what she wanted to do and used whknapp as the exuse to habitually duplicate. I'm sure she'll play a form of her sympathy trip on you as she's been doing. Enough is enough.
My challenge to you is where did I call you a racial slur?
NOTE: whimsical does not count!
Hudson, for the record, while you and I have occasionally disagreed, I do not recall you ever directing a racial slur at me, nor have I accused you of such.
Those who are guilty, know who they are.
Clue: It's the same group of obviously miserable women who recently had a very public cat fight in the Hillary thread.
I assume my apology didn't matter afterall. In that case, I take it back, and I uphold what I said. And if racial slurs are welcome on this forum, I will repeat it:
I would like to suggest that anyone who uses either of the above mentioned be irrevocably banned.
This is the second time that Explora has posted this racially motivated "Drivers' License", only THIS TIME she put a disclaimer underneath as if it excuses her knowledge of her motivations and actions. I feel the disclaimer is an obvious acknowledgement of her awareness of the racially derogatory depictions of Blacks and monkeys.
This is a deliberate race baiting tactic which she has used in the past and was previously brought to your attention during her previous attempt to have me removed from this board.
Also, please see the comments stated previously in this threadby 4NOW its obvious that Explora will do and say anything to keep me from posting anything at all in any thread she feels is her "personal property". It is clear that the statement she quoted was in response to the stalking and spamming of both she and her alter ego Knapp.
Her response of course will be check the IP addresses as if it is not possible for her or one of her friends to have access to more than one computer.
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Originally posted by iperson: I assume my apology didn't matter afterall. In that case, I take it back, and I uphold what I said. And if racial slurs are welcome on this forum, I will repeat it:
Beverly, you are a nigga.
Sticks and stones . . . . sorry but there is no power in your words. Why? because I don't care about you and I am NOT a nigga.
I accepted your apology because I thought it was sincere, but your turned around and returned to your true self and joined in on the personal attacks. Just as they turned on you on a dime, before, it'll happen again. Don't kid yourself you are still all the names they called you before you all reunited to wage your stalking, harrassing and illegal internet activities. Even though for today you have all kissed and made up, in their minds you are still all the racially derogatory names they called you; and they still meant every word of hatred they spewed towards you. Don't fool yourself, what they think of you has not changed. But then you'll learn that lesson . . yet again.
All you've proven by hurling racial slurs is that you are an ignorant racist. While I could retaliate by slicing you in half with one whip of my tongue, you aren't even worth it.
You are all a bunch of self loathing, miserable no life having, cowards and racist, birds of a feather, flocking together. It's obvious that all of you suffer from some form of mental disorder and low self esteem. But then you already knew that because water seeks its own level and misery loves company.
I really feel sorry for all of you.
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Originally posted by davdah: Ok, lets say for sake of argument it is her. She invited people into the debate. Was anything she said not true? Wasn't she called various racist names? Is she supposed to knuckly under and slink away into a corner?
And now its turned into a witch hunt. Everyone needs to extinguish their torches and get a reality check.
Whether Beverly posts in another forum is irrelevant. How Beverly conducts in this forum is relevant. However, Beverly has lied since I have never attacked Beverly peronally nor used racial slurs towards Beverly either. I have called her posts whimsical, but that is neither a personal attack nor a racial slur. Or are we going to change the rules again to fit a political propoganda or agenda? Or are you going to rationalize what, how, when, where, and to what extent she has said, did, and posted even though she has done the same bloody thing that she has accused posters of doing likewise. We are beyond of who fired the first shot. Rules have to be obeyed by all parties using equally and fairly. If Beverly uses disparaging remarks, then Beverly faces the consequences irregardless of the intentions or responses. No points allowed because Beverly is on the right side of the law or on the left side of the law.
I was asked to play devils advocate, I did. If lying were a ban able offense no one would be left standing, would you agree? You have to admit there was a general conspiracy to have her bounced. I won't argue her language is strong and causes people to clench their teeth. I'm just surprised at the level of childish behavior exhibited. For all those that claim to be so mature and grown up, you sure don't act like it. There are things she says I don't agree with but I'm not about to grab a lantern and chase her up the hill to the castle.
Your one to talk Hudson. I'm not about to examine every thread to see if you made any personal comments direct to her. I know its not beneath you to stoop to that level. You did it to me and my wife. Unlike the rest of you whiners I didn't go crying to the ILW staff. To me this is a good example of everyone's true character.
You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
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Originally posted by iperson: I assume my apology didn't matter afterall. In that case, I take it back, and I uphold what I said. And if racial slurs are welcome on this forum, I will repeat it:
Beverly, you are a nigga.
SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE DEMOCRAT. I hope all would be voters who were still on the fence see this. This is what the Democratic party really thinks of anyone who is not white. Remember what I said about that party wanting to create a dependency class? That was a nice way of saying they want you as a slave. Here it is from one their biggest supporters. Finally, some truth.
BTW, I am going to forward this to Hillary. One way or the other she will find out about this. ta ta
You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
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Originally posted by davdah: Ok, lets say for sake of argument it is her. She invited people into the debate. Was anything she said not true? Wasn't she called various racist names? Is she supposed to knuckly under and slink away into a corner?
And now its turned into a witch hunt. Everyone needs to extinguish their torches and get a reality check.
Whether Beverly posts in another forum is irrelevant. How Beverly conducts in this forum is relevant. However, Beverly has lied since I have never attacked Beverly peronally nor used racial slurs towards Beverly either. I have called her posts whimsical, but that is neither a personal attack nor a racial slur. Or are we going to change the rules again to fit a political propoganda or agenda? Or are you going to rationalize what, how, when, where, and to what extent she has said, did, and posted even though she has done the same bloody thing that she has accused posters of doing likewise. We are beyond of who fired the first shot. Rules have to be obeyed by all parties using equally and fairly. If Beverly uses disparaging remarks, then Beverly faces the consequences irregardless of the intentions or responses. No points allowed because Beverly is on the right side of the law or on the left side of the law.
I was asked to play devils advocate, I did. If lying were a ban able offense no one would be left standing, would you agree? You have to admit there was a general conspiracy to have her bounced. I won't argue her language is strong and causes people to clench their teeth. I'm just surprised at the level of childish behavior exhibited. For all those that claim to be so mature and grown up, you sure don't act like it. There are things she says I don't agree with but I'm not about to grab a lantern and chase her up the hill to the castle.
Your one to talk Hudson. I'm not about to examine every thread to see if you made any personal comments direct to her. I know its not beneath you to stoop to that level. You did it to me and my wife. Unlike the rest of you whiners I didn't go crying to the ILW staff. To me this is a good example of everyone's true character.
I totally agree. It's really pathetic and disgusting. Obviously, there are far too many "adults" trapped in a childs mindset inhabiting this board and sneaking into our country. All the weepingm wailing,whining, stalking, blatant racism and childish pranks are just overwhelmingly unbelievable.
Obviously, there are no depths that any of them won't sink to in order to get their way and they are representative of millions with the same mentality and low leveled IQ's and no sense of: responsibility for their actions, right from wrong, good vs. evil sneaking into and remaining in our country illegally. No need to wonder why the majority of Americans want our borders sealed.
Let me start by saying I do not condone what Iperson said. I thought it was in really poor taste - despicable.
However, I will stand my ground that Beverly signed on to this forum to cause disruptions. That was her intent. The Alipac forum advocates to their members to spread the anti-illegal message by whatever means possible. This is NOT a forum that supports illegal immigration. It is a forum for immigrants to use as a guide to help them with the immigration process. It used to be a good avenue to learn more about immigration issues.
You may distort the picture anyway you like. But, the fact remains none of this nonsense started until AFTER Beverly joined the forum.
This forum does not support illegal immigrants? ILW itself does not but there are several members here who openly advocate crossing our border by any means. That support and applaud illegal alien drug runners who manage to steal border patrol vehicals. Who post type messages directed at our border enforcement. That sounds like support for illegals to me.
First it was stormfront now its alipac. Its just another site with a different opinion. Just because some of the views are not in line with many of the members doesn't mean its not worth reading. I think its a good idea for anyone who is thinking of sneaking in to know that not everyone will welcome them, don't you? This site is viewed by many people from all over the world. They probably want to know what everyone's feelings are, even the democrats.
I don't recall seeing any anti immigrant posts. The only anti messages have been directed at EWI's and other illegals of various sorts. Some messages had more colorful adjectives than others but its still the same message. They don't think illegals should be allowed to stay.
You voted democrat. This country is not worth sneaking into any more.
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My challenge to you is where did I call you a racial slur?
NOTE: whimsical does not count!
Hudson, for the record, while you and I have occasionally disagreed, I do not recall you ever directing a racial slur at me, nor have I accused you of such.
Those who are guilty, know who they are.
Clue: It's the same group of obviously miserable women who recently had a very public cat fight in the Hillary thread.
But my point is you should have never put me in the group to begin with if you were the opster who said this:
quote:
Anybody up for a little mischief? If so, come over and help me out at:
Its an ILLEGAL ALIEN site for perpetual criminal law breakers here illegally skirting every loop hole in the immigration system to avoid deporation. They are a nasty bunch of psycho IA's who personally attack me everytime I post articles to dispute their IA delusions of grandier.
I have been called every racist name under the sun and the mods are worthless. The Key attackers are:
EXPLORA, PROUD USC, Babybeh, Hudson.
If you have a minute sign up and help me drive them nuttier than they already are!
My screen name over there is Beverly. THANKS ALL!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
Originally posted by ProudUSC: Let me start by saying I do not condone what Iperson said. I thought it was in really poor taste - despicable.
However, I will stand my ground that Beverly signed on to this forum to cause disruptions. That was her intent. The Alipac forum advocates to their members to spread the anti-illegal message by whatever means possible. This is NOT a forum that supports illegal immigration. It is a forum for immigrants to use as a guide to help them with the immigration process. It used to be a good avenue to learn more about immigration issues.
You may distort the picture anyway you like. But, the fact remains none of this nonsense started until AFTER Beverly joined the forum.
Not true. This mess was going on long before I got here, after I arrived and it will continue when I decide to leave as long as the same group of stalkers, gang banging mentality obsessors, race baiters and territorial posters are allowed to remain here. You all know which category you fall under. Davdah naming the last group you condemned confirmed what I have always known. It's the members of your "welcome wagon" who are responsible for the pathetic behavior on this board who stalk and harrass anyone who doesnot share your opinions. Don't try to scapegoat me.
That being said, those of you who support illegal immigration always claim that those of us who don't support it are either racists or hateful. I defy you to go the ALIPAC.us (not .net because that really is a Larazaesqu HATE SIGHT)or any other LEGAL IMMIGRATION advocacy site and find in writing where they encourage any one of the mindless, juvenile pranks that are allowed to occur on this board. While I agree some individuals may fit your description the majority of Americans are wide awake and fully aware of the destruction, lives lost and other devastation that results at the hands of those here illegally. Prepare yourself for perpetual anger because just like there are millions of you there are millions of Americans like me who love our country and will keep spreading the word until our immigrations law are enforced and 15 Americans per day are no longer dying at the hands of some drunk driving, con artist, drug dealing, multiple identity having, sociopathic murdering illegal aliens.
Oh and by the way there is a difference in "IMMIGRANTS" vs. ILLEGAL ALIENS/ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. The blurring of the lines is merely a trick of the trade of those of you who have run out of excuses for supporting illegals aliens, their illegal presence/activity. Calling them "IMMIGRANTS" does not work anymore.
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type messages directed at our border enforcement. That sounds like support for illegals to me.