Sam, I understand you need more time to consider all of this, but what will you be doing in the meantime about her posting here?

Sprint_girl07,

Never saddle a dead horse is all I can say.

Sam,

In the meantime while you're making a decision about Beverly and the duplication of postings which are never-ending...

I've decided to suspend posting on the main board on the three threads I contribute to until I see you have reached what will be a fair and acceptable decision to myself, which has been stalked by her, and to other ilw board members who have taken a lot of time to contribute to this board as well.

If this situation ultimately can't be rectified then I will leave this board indefinitely.

Thank you for your consideration and receiving our complaints.

Explora

why your not posting her pm's to u sam? iam sure she have sent u some msgs? u always do and why not with her? let us know plz

To Mike_2007's post of 02-19-2008 09:18 PM: OK, so we agree that a reasonable conclusion (notice I did not say THE reasonable conclusion) would be that Beverly is WhatMattersMost of alipac.us. It has to do with the gradations of level of proof mentioned at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof That's why I gave Beverly the option of arguing to the contrary. However, that is ancient history at this point since I have now concluded that the nexus between the two screen names exists for a purpose sufficient for further action. Unless Beverly decides to openly contest my conclusion as to this here, I will proceed accordingly. - Sam.

I second that Explora. I will join you in a boycott as well if that member is allowed to continue here.
Sam, while you're at it, I would also look into posters such as Sean Patrick or Club who may be Beverly's duplicates.

I think she targeted you Explora because she needed to have the main audience on here, and with the threads that you posted on, it was in her way.

You and the others she mentions, is purely because you guys stood up to her racial remarks and other nasty comments.

Mike was threatened by a PM from her I believe and recently she tried to say something to me, which could have been taken as a threat or not.

I guess she feels real brave posting what she likes here because she knows she can go and ask her alicrappers to come here and cause trouble, if anytime someone gets on her nerves and disrupts her antis across this board.

Now I know why she posts so many articles here, not only to spread the word, but to also help raise traffic to Alipac's article archives.
Very clever.

Hi All:

Just so that everyone understands. I intend to proceed fairly and systematically. I will not be hurried into making any decision one way or the other. And I will be just as transparent as always.

- Sam.

?????????? why would someone will sighn up on that website and use her name and then mention the members names on this forum if that wasn't her? she even told explora you'r a nosy person? why would she say that if that wasn't her? come on sam you know better than that? she mentiond names and there is no way for someone to fake it just make it looks like it was her?

IP, I don't think SeanPatrick has anything to do with Bev.

Am saying it AGAIN !!..DOUBLE STANDARDS!!!..Sam you make me laugh!

i remember when babayah used another screenname and some mebers thought it was him and he kept denying it ,you were the first person sam who traced his ip addrress and banned him without even getting any tips from some members? u banned him and u post it in here and u said that u banned him bcoz u traced the ip address and it was the same person? why not with her? post her pm's to u ?

Sam, you know the only reason why we feel this way is because we care about this site and its members (well most of them lol)

I can't speak for everyone, but I am sure that most do not want to have this site turned or used as a anti immigrant playroom.

Some members here have been long standing and respected members, it will be a shame to lose them because of the likes of Beverly.

I am sure you will do what is best for ILW

COMMENT TO IPERSON:

Thank you iperson with agreeing with a 'boycott.' I don't consider this being a part of the threads so I don't mind posting here.

It's sad to see that you and I are the only ones for it so far.

I think it's the thing to do. Some strong action must now be taken by Sam and we need our requests heard and all of us members, new and old need to be shown respect and that is by not allowing this disrespect by Beverly to continue to be *habitual*.

I think we all need to agree to not post on the main board in any threads until a fair and acceptable decision is made by Sam. We can be tolerant but I think if this goes past the 48 hours, then, well, what can I say? It's gone far enough as it is.

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Originally posted by Sam U. of ILW.COM:
Hi All:

Just so that everyone understands. I intend to proceed fairly and systematically. I will not be hurried into making any decision one way or the other. And I will be just as transparent as always.

- Sam.

Hey Sam? This call doesn't take alot of thought. It's really quite simple. Do you want to have a website that is friendly to immigrants or not?

I hope some serious thought is given to the very real possibility that the post on that other site is nothing more than planted evidence. There are those here that have been looking for a reason to silence the voice of descent. If we're going to be reduced to brown shirt mentality then I doubt a ban will be necessary. It will be a desertion. Perhaps it should be noted the names on the initial list. There is another pattern that develops.

Proud i agree with you this is unbelievable after seeing clear and convincing evidence he has to wait 48hrs...this just goes to show why there is a double standard on your part Sam!

Davdah, have you read all her posts there?

How can you say it could have been planted there?

Read all her posts there and the other sites, then come back and say whether you think it is her/him or not.

Oh, also check her articles here, and compare then to Alipac.(date and so on)

Davdah, nothing has been planted. We've done our homework and what's been said in this thread is true about Beverly. Take it or leave it, but don't question the authenticity.

RE Davdah's post above http://discuss.ilw.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/902603441/m/2...10761441#13410761441 - see what I mean? We should ask reasonable questions before acting on something on another board. However, it is easier to make decisions when it is only our board that's at issue. Hence the different procedure in this case.