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Originally posted by Sprint_girl07:
4now this site and its members are not Pro-illegal, just because some members are illegal and need help or because members want to help out someone who is here illegally or might end up being illegal, doesn't make anyone pro-illegal.

Nor does it make the site an anti illegal site because a few posters printed anti illegal articles sprint. Your statement can be a dual edged sword. It is all about perspective of view



You have helped members here yourself, does that make you Pro-illegal?

My input here is to answer posters. this is what I have done loyally for many years now.

What Bev or anyone else like her who purposely comes to a site like this and do nothing but post anti's is for what purpose to anyone who comes here?

This would fall under interpretation as to what purpose. For instance who are any of us to say what articles can be posted and what not? Thats the point we cant. It is not like the people that posted those articles authored them. This is where you must use the voice of reason.. regardless of the intent of the poster that posted anti illegal articles such as So12 or Beverly, E, few other posters... We as members do not have a right to try to ban a poster for printing articles from reputable sources. Free speach remember

You are wrong again 4now, look at all her threads she has posted over this past month or so, she has not contained it to one or two.
Then she will post illegal posts in other threads too, wherever she can.

I have mostly seen the posts go to what I feel are appropriate places except for the recipe copied from WKNAPP.

Why does she do this?? because no other site allows her to that is why, except alicrappers or those type of sites.

Illegal immigration issue was on this forum when I came and there is nothing different now than then, except more accurate articles supporting positions. Be4 it was just a big rhubarb discussion.

Will Britexpats, immigrate2us, and all those sites allow her posts there? I think not.

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Originally posted by 4now:

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Originally posted by explora:
Listen up 4now, get let me get something straight with you again. You can skirt around all you want and come up with all kinds of b.s. just like I had to call you down on before. I said before that I had private messages with College Student AFTER he completed his work. I told him that I was going to keep the thread going. You must've been disappointed that I didn't go along with your suggestion to me of changing the title of it just like there's plenty more that I don't go along with from you.


It made no difference to me. I thought more people would have viewed it, but i was not aware of the history of the thread until you explained it to me.

Comments by explora in bold

Net etiquette will tell viewers to look at the first posts in a thread. An introduction. I did explain what I was doing. You did say that you happened upon it and thought that others might like to view it but the name might discourage them from doing opening it. I told you that for the length of time it had been running that if somebody hadn't opened it by then that they probably weren't interested. It had a sufficient amt of viewers to leave it as it was. Obviously you were interested or you wouldn't have opened it. It didn't take long for you to find somebody else to open one and do your work for you and most likely give it the name you probably suggested. Key word: Suggested.



When it's evident that somebody is running a thread like that most anybody with common sense and Netiquette will leave it alone. Beverly didn't show any respect even after she'd had her own threads. RESPECT. It's not that difficult to understand. I don't want to hear anymore of those worn-out exuses from Beverly or you about it okay? You don't go and try to convince people what is what. I called you down on that also when you try to sway others people opinions about a post that you had no business sticking your nose in.

You havent call me down on anything Explora, Only have in your mind my dear. this is the problem with you explora,, you are territorial about threads. For some reason you cant understand that nobody owns a thread If I am posting.. I am not trying to sway anyones opinion, I am merely pointing out reason and hope that people will use their intelligence and act on reason, not personal emotion. GET A GRIP!


Oh yes I have and told you where you were totally wrong on some issues. If you'd been a defense atty in court you'd thrown your hands up in the air at a loss. It was hilarious the things you said that I did first. Oh yes, Mr. Psychoanalyst, you do try to sway opinion and I recall one post where I told you that you no business making the reply you made. It's not in my mind, it's all in a thread on this board. Get off the 'owning a thread issue', it's about respect as I said. If you see that nobody has been or is posting in it then one would generally leave it be as it had been. (How many times do we have to explain this to 4now?) Let's forget this. You have a comprehension problem.


Do me a favor and quit speaking for me okay? You need to quit playing your games along with Beverly and quit saying that I'm trying to get her banned over that thread. Leave it right there okay? Don't say what language I'll be up in arms over and which I won't. You must've missed my post to Sam last night. The day might come when I tire of being called an illegal immigrant and who knows what I might say. You can only push people so far.

2 words PUBLIC FORUM!

Honestly, I dont know your story Explora, I dont know if you are an illegal immigrant or not. I never thought about it one way or another.

Public forum, right? Just try to be more correct with what you say. It would be a good idea because then the people you give advise to won't think that you are in error sometimes. Thank you, I appreciate your above choice of words as I used giving respect to mine, illegal 'immigrant.'


Please do that for me if you can?

I will continue to call things as I see them, that is everybody's right here.

It is their right but what they say should be 'right' as well. jajajaja


I told you that you need reading glasses.


You help people with advise but if it's anything against your beliefs about undocumented immigrants you won't touch it. Guess what? That's your perogative. Mine is that I don't need you to direct my replies to a private message. Got it? Good.

My interest here is to help posters get answers. I did not have an answer for this poster as I was sure you were current with the states that offer drivers licenses to illegals. Did you get the information to the poster? If you did, my mission was accomplished. If you dont wish to help poster with a quesiton that you have expertise in and only want to post articles, that shows your true colors here,.

I just said don't tell me where to direct my responses. That was because you didn't want it on the board. Get real.


I didn't need you telling an OP that I could go to a pm to tell them what state gives undocumented persons drivers licenses. I had to tell you that it was legal and public info and that I didn't need to go to a pm.


DUH Explora. I knew you had the information for the person. That was the reason for the PM. How was I to know that you would even view that thread. You are so selfish. i wanted that poster to have an answer. I do not discriminate against people that come here for answers. You mission here is selfish and self gratifiying.

Thanks for doing my thinking for me.


Furthermore, Sam should consult with the legal department over what he will consider foul language or racist language or not, etc.


I am sure he will. and I am sure he will be open to what is really offensive by law and cetain accepted standards.
Wikipedia? I'm sure we all can start a search on different sites and bring many more lists here. (lol)

You should. It should be a concern in case people start deciding that they can use derogatory racist language against mexicans here.

Duh. You're right. You're getting smarter!! Just spell Mexican with a capital 'M' next time. That'll show you're really getting smarter.


BTW, why don't you ask Sam why he brought the Hey Pinoy thread back up that had been locked? The reason I'm asking is because I saw a post you made in reply to somebody that had brought up an old thread and you chided them for that. Maybe they had something that was of value to that.
SAm made an explanation for unlocking that thread. the thread was 6 years. You call that chiding? GET A GRIP.

Get the glasses you need. I said 'you' chided an 'OP' in a thread for bringing up an old one. There you went with some more of your, do this, do that, why this, why that; who do you think you are? Get the glasses so you can read better. You got mixed up on this one.

Why do you always think that you can direct and tell everybody what to do all the time?

This is your perception Explora, I try to keep the peace here if i can when things seem to get out of control. If I do say something.. it was long overdue ,but I generall keep quiet. It seems you work the opposite trying to help fuel lynch mob mentality rather than use reasoning.

Keep the peace with the way you think the peace should be of course.

I do agree the language needs to be cleaned up quickly. It should've been done a long time ago when Beverly opened her proverbial trap.


You just cant make it through without a Zinger in reference. Typical Explora tactic, as you keep forgetting that you were equally as guilty in the language AND content of language that was and is very offending.

Here we go again. My language was nothing like the language of that Beverly that she gave to most people on here.


BTW, are you guys a number now?

Do you even realize how childish and pathetic you look with this remark? Middle school mentality is too good 4u, kindergarten better describes it.

Public forum as you said. Just a friendly question. All your defenses depict you guys as being quite tight nowadays. Just trying to ask you point blank so I could get some more dirty laundry. At least I asked you to your face.

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4Now, there were days when I signed onto this forum and Beverly had filled the entire page with new threads about anti-illegal stuff. I will agree she's tamed down somewhat, but she's also invited all of the wolves from Alipac over here to create more havoc (and some have them have already joined without mentioning any names).



Yes there were days in the past Proud. She was requested to accomodate the posters and she complied. Please tell me where the problem is now. Where is this havoc? Do you mean S012 or some new ones recently that need to be aksed if they can drop their articles into a thread that is already running and applicable. Are not we all keeping our eye on this posters to make sure that they do not clutter the board? If these posts get excessive, you know one of us will say something to curtail it.


Is this what you want this site to turn into? I know how much you like to help people. Their posts are continually buried when Beverly feels the urge to dump her anti stuff here. Do you think it would be realistic to ask people to stick to the theme of a thread instead of creating a new thread for each and every article that is found? Can we agree to place them within a thread that is appropriate? I think that would be fair.

Proud I have expressed in the past for articles to be placed in appropriate threads. From what I can see, that is being done by most people. Sometimes, a duplicate is warranted as it is applicable to 2 threads or maybe a reference of the url in a thread to see other post would be more appropriate. i am guily myself, when I dont know where to best place an article, I use world articles.

First and foremost, I don't want this forum to look like it is biased against immigrants - legal or not. That is not the American way and I will not stand for it.
This forum does not look like it is biased against immigrants except when SOM or SO12 answer posters in the manner that they do! The American way is against illegal immigration, otherwise there would not be provisions addressing this occurance in immigration statues and laws. Is it the opinion of a group of americans, yes it is. Is that reflected in the laws here.. No it is not. If so, undocumented would not have to file waivers, or face 10 year bars. We are talking about balance here and not personal feelings Proud.


God Bless America and everyone else

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Originally posted by 4now:
Proud usc quote:

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4Now, there were days when I signed onto this forum and Beverly had filled the entire page with new threads about anti-illegal stuff. I will agree she's tamed down somewhat, but she's also invited all of the wolves from Alipac over here to create more havoc (and some have them have already joined without mentioning any names).



Yes there were days in the past Proud. She was requested to accomodate the posters and she complied. Please tell me where the problem is now. Where is this havoc? Do you mean S012 or some new ones recently that need to be aksed if they can drop their articles into a thread that is already running and applicable. Are not we all keeping our eye on this posters to make sure that they do not clutter the board? If these posts get excessive, you know one of us will say something to curtail it.


Is this what you want this site to turn into? I know how much you like to help people. Their posts are continually buried when Beverly feels the urge to dump her anti stuff here. Do you think it would be realistic to ask people to stick to the theme of a thread instead of creating a new thread for each and every article that is found? Can we agree to place them within a thread that is appropriate? I think that would be fair.

Proud I have expressed in the past for articles to be placed in appropriate threads. From what I can see, that is being done by most people. Sometimes, a duplicate is warranted as it is applicable to 2 threads or maybe a reference of the url in a thread to see other post would be more appropriate. i am guily myself, when I dont know where to best place an article, I use world articles.

First and foremost, I don't want this forum to look like it is biased against immigrants - legal or not. That is not the American way and I will not stand for it.
This forum does not look like it is biased against immigrants except when SOM or SO12 answer posters in the manner that they do! The American way is against illegal immigration, otherwise there would not be provisions addressing this occurance in immigration statues and laws. Is it the opinion of a group of americans, yes it is. Is that reflected in the laws here.. No it is not. If so, undocumented would not have to file waivers, or face 10 year bars. We are talking about balance here and not personal feelings Proud.


God Bless America and everyone else