Thank you for responding to this post. Many of you comments helped me.

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Yes, it is marriage fraud and you did the right thing by reporting her to the 'CIS. Her butt deserves to get sent back home!

I went through the same exact situation you're going through now with my fraudulent Argentinian ex-wife. When she abandoned me a week after receiving a NOA letter regarding her AOS application, I immediately contacted the 'CIS, told them I highly suspected my wife was guilty of immigration marriage fraud, then requested that all my petitions be withdrawn. Ultimately I was able to get her go back home empty-handed, albeit voluntarily.

TO HELL WITH FRAUDULENT IMMIGRANTS! Get them THE **** OUT OF HERE!

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[quote]joe57777[/quote]
How old are both of you?

I'm 33, physically fit, healthy and financially stable. Why?

Hi Lada,

When I met her on the Internet through one of her friends on match.com, she was 23 and I was 46. When we got married she was 24 and I was 47. Now she just turned 26 yesterday the 28th. But, as I said, she knew our age difference when she married me.

Joe

If Hellen has only a conditional green card INS will not renew it after the 2 years is over, especially since you have contacted them regarding the marriage fraud. Since you are the petitioner I am thinking INS should be able to deport her sooner, but I am not sure on this.
How old is Hellen (since she did not like being married to a much older man)? Did you get her as a mail order bride?
Dmartmar and Joe 57777 sorry about what happened to both of you, however that does not mean that you should hate every immigrant because not all people are the same.
To avoid these situations you need to know somebody for a really long time before you decide to marry them.

Hi dmartmar,

I would appreciate if you could give me more information about withdrawing my wife's temporary conditional residency card petition. How long do I have to do that? She has had her card for about a year now. Am I too late to withdraw it? I also want to know all about your dealings with Immigration. Did your wife have a lawyer? What about divorce? I do not want my wife to be able to fight Immigration to prevent her from going back home to Indonesia. That is of course one of my major points. I want her out of here!!!!! My email is: joe_777_2003@yahoo.com

Please get back to me,

Joe

Hi Ornela,

As I mentioned in an earlier post, Hellen was 23 and I was 46 when I met her on the Internet through a friend of her's that was closer to my age who had a profile on match.com. When we got married I was 47 and she was of course 24. Yesterday she just turned 26. But usually in the beginning of a relationship is when people determine if an age difference is not going to work for either person. I certainly do not care if a woman is younger than me. Now of course there is a limit to age difference for me. I believe our age difference was max that I would go with in a serious relationship (which is what I always wanted). But the reason why some of us men go for women in general from other countries, is the appeal that these women seem to be known to treat men, for the most part, with a little more respect. They are also thought to be more "family oriented". This is just like many of us men in the U.S. want, but cannot seem to find it very easy in these new days and times inside the U.S. Also the younger women seem to be used to being with older men because that is what happens in many countries outside the U.S.

I do not hate all men and women that come here, but of course I hate the men and women that come to the U.S. to take advantage of us U.S. people just to get their green cards and then leave us for another person that better suits their needs. I also hate the men and women that take advantage of their spouses in this country as well. But as I said, I was getting the impression that the "advantage taking" happen less in countries outside the U.S. But all I wanted was a woman that also wanted a family life, who also wanted a relationship where we could respect each other, and one where we could be honest and faithful to each other as well.

Joe

Once the divorce is finalised she can apply for a 10 year Green Card.

There is nothing in your posts to suggest she will have any difficulty.

Joe,
I am truthfully sorry for what happened to you.
On the other hand, you must have known you were taking a risk by marrying this girl.
You knew it but you were blinded by her appeal, her youth and by your male desires. You said to yourself, what the ****, I'll try and see and worry about what happens when it happens right?
Well, it happened.
Revenge is not a way to go. She does deserve being sent home but you won't build your life on so called corpses (a saying in my country). It will only make you an old and a sad man.
Its up to you how you live your life.

[quote]Hi dmartmar,

I would appreciate if you could give me more information about withdrawing my wife's temporary conditional residency card petition. How long do I have to do that? She has had her card for about a year now. Am I too late to withdraw it? I also want to know all about your dealings with Immigration. Did your wife have a lawyer? What about divorce? I do not want my wife to be able to fight Immigration to prevent her from going back home to Indonesia. That is of course one of my major points. I want her out of here!!!!! My email is: joe_777_2003@yahoo.com

Please get back to me,

Joe[/quote]


I don't think there's really much you can do at this point. You've already been married for almost 4 years and she already has her 2-year CGC. The length of the marriage only speaks volumes about its validity. It would seem as if she could easily remove conditions by herself.

It appears that you've been married two years then? You'll have to do a search for threads on this topic... usually under subject of I-751. There are others where this has been discussed and people have related what they did in similar circumstances. From what I've read it's never a sure thing, writing to immigration, etc. But, getting annullment based on fraud would be a major plus if you are wanting to get her deported. Another reason for that that hasn't been mentioned is the I-864....

dmartmar,

We were only married 54 weeks (1 year and 2 weeks). Not 4 years married. She only has her 2 yr. conditional, temporary, green card. I was told by immigration that she can only file for her permanent green card (after filing a waiver) no sooner than 90 days before the 2 year anniversity of her issue date of her 2 yr. conditional card. After the divorce is final, immigration told me that her status would then be deportable and they can put her in front of an immigration Judge to consider deporting her. That is why Immigration wants me to get the divorce finalized a.s.a.p. As for the point about the revenge factor, it is as simple as this. She came here and married me. She said that our relationship did not work out. I said ok fine. But in order for me to believe her, she will have to go back home to Indonesia. What is fair is fair. Nobody is going to taste America on my coat-tails without being with me. Now for the person that said he did not see that there was anything that I had mentioned in my story that would suggest marriage fraud on my wife's part. But just her being registered on at least one dating site should be enough to prove fraud.

But are you telling me that there is no defense against these woman? Is the 2 yr. condition put on these green cards to protect us American citizens a joke? Or does it really protect us from marriage fraud?

Joe

Hi Spring,

You can email me about this @joe_777_2003@yahoo.com. I was thinking that an annulment would be the better way to go. Not only for the reason you were implying, but also from information that I have been gathering. Now to stop the confussion, I had been married for 54 weeks before my wife left our home. I understand that we have been married longer, but I am measuring just the time we were married and living together. That measurement is important to prove marriage fraud. I am familar with the I-864 affidavit of support. Please tell me more.

Joe

I know a very similar situation: a girl came to the US to marry a US citizen. After she got a conditional GC, she changed her mind about him (found a lover). He wanted her to come back to her country but, of course, she said 'no'. And now the best: they were divorced but she obtained a 10-year GC. How? She went to legal services. She was detailed instructed what to do and how to do. So she was going to the therapist (so she was able to apply for waiver - VAWA), she was an abused wife who was attending church services so the priest gave her great references to USCIS etc. Ayway - she got a waiver so she applied for a permanent GC and she obtained it.

Once a divorce becomes final and decree available, the alien can petition to remove conditions alone, under one of the waiver provisions. She would not have to wait until 90 days prior to the 2 year expiry of the conditional green card. To prevail with a waiver, it would be important for her to prove that the marriage was bona fide. Documentary evidence of co-mingled lives is important in establishing that.

Were the parties still married, then she would need your signature on the I751 to remove conditions. Of course, it would appear highly suspect if a USC that is claiming an alien entered a marriage fraudulently would remain married to an alien. Also, if in divorce proceedings but divorce is not final at the time conditions are to be removed, the alien cannot apply to remove conditions with any of the waivers (other than VAWA, of course) and will fall out of status and be subject to removal. Timing of the finalisation of a divorce is critical, same goes for an annulment.

I think either you misunderstood the USCIS officer or he/she is muddled.

They will only deport her if they conclude that she came to the country with the intention of marrying you only for a greencard. If you manage to prove that, then you will also be making yourself look like a fool rather than a victim.

I don't agree. I'm sure the impact of betrayal is painful enough. I don't think it's compassionate or fair to categorise someone that has been taken advantage of, as a fool.

iperson,

I can't fathom your logic. Aside from fraud being an infraction of the laws of the country, a petitioner has been deceived. Your argument I suppose would be that if solicited by a prostitute, a person can't consider it illegal if the it's a young w-h-o-r-e?

joe57777 if your game is not tight enough u cant keep a woman.If u r not giving her what she wants she is going to look for it somewhere else.Okay the 2yr conditional GC is for protecting USC but if the same pple are stupid enough not to be able to tell that they r being punked they deserve every bit of it.Unfortunatley so!!!!!! Like u said u r young so pick up the pieces and get u another woman and watch out foreign or not a woman is a woman.