Originally posted by Jake01: What does it explain Beverly! that I was an overstayer, WOW thats old news....
SO12, your government (USCIS) judged me and gave me a Greencard. So where does that leave us... Me with a smile on my face and giving you the birdy, You, well you will never change... still whining even now!
Like I said before, it is not up to us to judge a person.
It's not old news to me, I haven't been on this board long. It does however confirm what I already knew with regards to your instantaneous pouncing on my posts and calling me hateful. I've been studying this issue long enough to immediately recognize the behavior patterns of illegal aliens. My instincts haven't failed me yet. I'd bet my life that a certain cheerleader of illegal aliens fits into one of these 3 categories: (a)illegal alien pretending to be a citizen; (b) spouse of an illegal alien; or (c) family member of an illegal alien.
Originally posted by Jake01: What does it explain Beverly! that I was an overstayer, WOW thats old news....
SO12, your government (USCIS) judged me and gave me a Greencard. So where does that leave us... Me with a smile on my face and giving you the birdy, You, well you will never change... still whining even now!
Like I said before, it is not up to us to judge a person.
It's not old news to me, I haven't been on this board long. It does however confirm what I already knew with regards to your instantaneous pouncing on my posts and calling me hateful. I've been studying this issue long enough to immediately recognize the behavior patterns of illegal aliens. My instincts haven't failed me yet. I'd bet my life that a certain cheerleader of illegal aliens fits into one of these 3 categories: (a)illegal alien pretending to be a citizen; (b) spouse of an illegal alien; or (c) family member of an illegal alien.
Actually Beverly, let me put you right on one fact....
I am a LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENT with a 10 year greencard.. compliments from your Government, I also received a welcome notice to the US of A.
LOL! dont choke!
What did you receive... A slap on the butt
And if you keep hounding me like you are doing, you will regret it, push hard enough and you will get yours, you know what they say : what goes around comes around.
And now I have an understanding of what ProudUSC meant. the trouble with you Girl, is you harrass people, then when they retaliate, you dont like it.
Originally posted by Jake01: What does it explain Beverly! that I was an overstayer, WOW thats old news....
SO12, your government (USCIS) judged me and gave me a Greencard. So where does that leave us... Me with a smile on my face and giving you the birdy, You, well you will never change... still whining even now!
Like I said before, it is not up to us to judge a person.
It's not old news to me, I haven't been on this board long. It does however confirm what I already knew with regards to your instantaneous pouncing on my posts and calling me hateful. I've been studying this issue long enough to immediately recognize the behavior patterns of illegal aliens. My instincts haven't failed me yet. I'd bet my life that a certain cheerleader of illegal aliens fits into one of these 3 categories: (a)illegal alien pretending to be a citizen; (b) spouse of an illegal alien; or (c) family member of an illegal alien.
Actually Beverly, let me put you right on one fact....
I am a LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENT with a 10 year greencard.. compliments from your Government, I also received a welcome notice to the US of A.
LOL! dont choke!
What did you receive... A slap on the butt
And if you keep hounding me like you are doing, you will regret it, push hard enough and you will get yours, you know what they say : what goes around comes around.
And now I have an understanding of what ProudUSC meant. the trouble with you Girl, is you harrass people, then when they retaliate, you dont like it.
Shut up or ship out!!!
Whose hounding who? I posted to SO12 and you asked me a question, I answered.
Now you're threatening me:
"push hard enough and you will get yours, you know what they say : what goes around comes around.?"
In a court of law this post would be considered a threat. Did you know that although your threats are made in cyberspace they are traceable? Did you know that as a "guest" in my country and a green card holder, you would be eligible for deportation if convicted?
BTW, I have a copy of this entire thread. Your threat has been duly noted.
BTW, I have a copy of this entire thread. Your threat has been duly noted.
You have nothing of the sort. You are a sick, twisted person who is using this forum as a source of entertainment. We've got your number, Beverly. Just waiting to call you on it when you finally cross the line!!!
What goes around comes around is an idiomatic phrase that's been commonly used for many years. Who in their right mind would try to charge somebody for saying that? (lol) Prosecuting atty throws hands up in the air and says, "No more questions." = Case dismissed.
Surely anyone claiming to work in the legal field as an 'assistant' would know this. Hmmm. Guess not.
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proudsc: I may be a lot of things (real or otherwise to many people) but racist? No. I am an American, something that Jake01 is not...she is nothing more than a visa waiver cheat...and there is nothing she can say that can erase that label from my point of view...and note, no facts, just more blather from her. That is why I believe that our Congress should amend our immigration laws and end ALL adjustment of status except from the two classes of visas designed for that purpose - the K1 and the K3....all others...no..and end every silly waiver...then visa waiver cheats like Jake01 would be forced to go back to their own country and sit on their behinds for 3 or 10 years (or maybe more)...and ponder their decision to ignore our laws. For that, I would definitely LOL....
Originally posted by Jake01: What does it explain Beverly! that I was an overstayer, WOW thats old news....
SO12, your government (USCIS) judged me and gave me a Greencard. So where does that leave us... Me with a smile on my face and giving you the birdy, You, well you will never change... still whining even now!
Like I said before, it is not up to us to judge a person.
It's not old news to me, I haven't been on this board long. It does however confirm what I already knew with regards to your instantaneous pouncing on my posts and calling me hateful. I've been studying this issue long enough to immediately recognize the behavior patterns of illegal aliens. My instincts haven't failed me yet. I'd bet my life that a certain cheerleader of illegal aliens fits into one of these 3 categories: (a)illegal alien pretending to be a citizen; (b) spouse of an illegal alien; or (c) family member of an illegal alien.
Let me take a wild guess. You and your buddy hatemongers got together behind the scenes in private, ganged up, summoned all the venom you could produce together, drew false conclusions as noted above, and are now making plans to trace all of us, check our statuses, and/or immediately bring ICE and deport everybody who is not a hatemonger like you. Am I correct? If I am not mistaken, these are signs of delusional grandeur and psychosis. And I've long read about similar cases like yours. Beverly, you are a larger threat to yourself and this country than any illegal alien.
iperson: remind us again....why is it you haven't torn up your green card and found your way back to Poland? All you do is castigate MY country and our citizens....last time I checked, Poland was not leading the world in anything except perhaps cabbage production....whoopee
Thanks for the many responses to my postings. I will respond here: (Sorry about the CAPS in the first part of my response.)
Point Number ONE ++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
Here is a draft of community standards that I intend to make standard for this board maybe next week. This is just a beginning, and we can get more elaborate after seeing what happens in a month or two.
ILW.COM SETS THE RULES ON OUR PROPERTY. WE WANT TO SET UP APPROPRIATE RULES HERE TO ENCOURAGE THE GROWTH OF THIS COMMUNITY. IT IS HIGH TIME THAT WE GOT A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC, AND PROGRESSED BEYOND OUR HITHERTO LAISSEZ FAIRE APPROACH.
THERE WILL BE A WARNING FOR ONE OFFENSE, A FEW DAYS SUSPENSION FOR A REPEATED OFFENSE, AND PERMANENT BAR FOR A THIRD OFFENSE.
THE ABOVE MENTIONED PENALTIES WOULD APPLY TO FOUL LANGUAGE AND EMPHATICALLY TO THREATS OF VIOLENCE, INCLUDING MATERIAL (GRAPHIC OR TEXT) THAT IS OBSCENE, ****OGRAPHIC OR ADULT IN NATURE, USING JAVASCRIPT OR ACTIVE CODE, MAKING REPETITIVE OR DISRUPTIVE POSTS, OR OTHERWISE TAKING ACTIONS THAT INTERFERE WITH SITE OPERATIONS, ATTEMPTING TO IMPERSONATE ILW.COM STAFF.
VIOLATIONS CAN BE REPORTED TO WEBMASTER@ILW.COM, BUT RESPONSES WILL BE PUBLICLY POSTED ON THIS BOARD (THE NAME OF THE COMPLAINANT WILL NOT BE POSTED).
OUR STANDARD FOR SUCCESS OR FAILURE IS VERY SIMPLE - WE WANT TO GROW THIS COMMUNITY AND ARE CLOSELY MONITORING ITS TRAFFIC.
I invite final comments on the above draft.
Point Number TWO ++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
I agree with Hudson's post of January 11, 2008 07:24 AM - once finalized (hopefully next week), I will post the above rules in the sticky at the top of the discussion board - no need to add more stickies).
Point Number THREE ++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
In response to 4now's post of January 11, 2008 02:59 PM, we do not want to overly structure the board at this time. However, we are not opposed to moving in this direction over time. A fundamental principle I would like to use on this board is to make gradual changes. It is simply using Mill's methods - we will observe the traffic after each change. Trust you will be patient, thanks.
This is in response to postings by Explora (1/10/08 11.10pm) and Jake01 (1/10/08 11.23pm) in the previous thread (ILW.COM will be more active in this community).
We are trying to create some structure on this board, we expect a change in "atmosphere" as a result of the structure itself. Lets wait and see what happens - we will gradually add more structure as needed - and we will do so collaboratively with the community.
Hello Everyone: I received the Private Message below (I am posting it anonymously here). As discussed previously, I will reply to private messages on this board. For the sake of clarity, my responses are in CAPS. - Sam.
QUOTE MESSAGE SENT TO SAM BELOW:
Sam, I think I lost the post I was sending you. I guess I'll have to retype it.
I think it's unfair for you to make a 'judgement statement' saying you think SonofMichael was only joking. How do you not know that Babybeh was not joking?
YOU ARE RIGHT, I DONT KNOW WHETHER BABYBEH WAS JOKING.
We have sent complaints in many times about Beverly calling people names and foul language. It was ignored. Totally ignored. She should've been banned without even mentioning it to anybody.
It takes time to implement a new policy. People are creatures of habit. On a jobsite if all of a sudden cigarrette smoking is banned, it is and will be taken into consideration that people are creatures of habit and liable to light one up without thinking. It is understandable and exused a few times. This should be considered with Babybeh.
I AGREED TO CONSIDER RESTORING BABYBEH IF SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY THOUGHT I ACTED TOO HASTILY. THE NEW PROPOSED RULES PERMIT A GRADUATED PUNISHMENT. SINCE YOU ARE ASKING ME TO RECONSIDER, I WILL RECONSIDER. I WILL POST ON THIS MATTER NEXT WEEK.
You should return him and solely because you've already announced his being banned, you should state he's being invited back and understands the rules and that no comments are therefore needed regarding your decision. Nobody is going to speak up and subject themselves to ridicule in front of those two anti-immigrationists, Beverly and 4now.
Beverly has been no better than him but tonight she can call the population on this board 'illegal alien population.' (In one of her last two posts under your thread you wanted a rest given to. And where nobody can get a word in because her and 4now have to reply to everything.)
I clicked the alert button and reported that comment. We are tired of it. Another OP told her that she was a U.S.C. but was still called an illegal alien etc. by Beverly. She doesn't know anybody's status and shouldn't be addressing people like this. I take offense to this. I don't like it and it bothers me. Will you please stop her or 'ban' her please!!! If Babybeh has to go - Beverly needed to go (a long time ago).
You yourself saw the unnecesary response she gave in the thread about my response. These types of responses have been going on for a long time and they take up space. You always have to scroll past her every quote/response. She also said in her thread tonight that she's only here to dump the articles and make everybody know how her country is going downhill.
How do you think this looks to other people around the world who are viewing this site? How do you expect to have more people visit this site seeking help to questions when they get ridiculed?
immigrate2us.net doesn't have a problem. They censure everything and it's an excellent site.
Sam, with the likes of Beverly taking up space in every thread all over the board, this site isn't going to grow. Who wants to ask questions and get ridiculed?
Please bring Babybeh back and don't rely on asking the board's opinion. You didn't ask our opinion when you kicked him off.
I DID NOT ASK ANYONE'S OPINION WHEN BANNING BABYBEH BECAUSE OUR EXISTING POLICY (AT THE TIME OF BABYBEH'S FOUL-LANGUAGE POSTING, AND AFTER I HAD ANNOUNCED THAT I WAS MONITORING THE BOARD) SPECIFICALLY BANNED THE USE OF FOUL LANGUAGE. WE HAVE VERY FEW RULES ON THIS BOARD, THOUGH IT APPEARS THAT THE RULES MUST GROW SOMEWHAT. HOWEVER, THE FEW RULES WE DO HAVE, I DO INTEND TO ENFORCE. IN THE PAST, WE HAVE INVESTIGATED EVERY COMPLAINT THAT WE RECEIVED - ALMOST ALWAYS THE COMPLAINT TURNED OUT TO BE THAT THE OP WAS USING ALL KINDS OF LANGUAGE EXCEPT FOR FOUL LANGUAGE. IN THE FEW CASES WHERE WE FOUND FOUL LANGUAGE, WE IMMEDIATELY BANNED THE OP. AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, MOST COMPLAINTS IN THE PAST HAVE HAD TO DO WITH FOLKS WHOSE OPINION WAS OPPOSITE TO THE COMPLAINANT, NOT BCOS OF FOUL LANGUAGE.
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Hello Everyone: I received the Private Message below (I am posting it anonymously here). As discussed previously, I will reply to private messages on this board. For the sake of clarity, my responses are in CAPS. - Sam.
QUOTE MESSAGE SENT TO SAM BELOW:
So are you going to restore Michael ? And make him Supreme Power Member? Thank you
IF A POSTER WAS BANNED BEFORE, IT WAS BCOS OF A COMPLAINT WHICH WAS FOUND TO BE VALID - IOW, THE COMPLAINANT ALLEGED VIOLATION OF OUR USER POLICY (FOUL LANGUAGE) AND THE COMPLAINANT WAS RIGHT. WE HAVE HITHERTO TAKEN A "HANDS OFF" APPROACH TO THE BOARD, AND HAVE REACTED ONLY TO COMPLAINTS. HOWEVER, WE DID INVESTIGATE EVERY COMPLAINT TO US. NOW WE ARE TAKING A MORE "HANDS ON" POLICY, AND HOPE THAT THE BOARD WILL BENEFIT BY THIS. ABSENT COMPELLING REASONS, WE DO NOT REVERSE PAST DECISIONS.
Hello Everyone: I received the Private Message below (I am posting it anonymously here). As discussed previously, I will reply to private messages on this board. For the sake of clarity, my responses are in CAPS. - Sam.
QUOTE MESSAGE SENT TO SAM BELOW:
Hi Sam,
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Beverly started dumping all of her anti-Mexican articles in that thread. I understand she has a right to do so, but she did it with malicious intent. She has done this to other members too. She started interrupting our threads and calling us names long before we started our campaign against her. She is a bully and a hater and we are fed up with her. Her disruptions, intimidating attacks and nasty demeanor are causing people to leave the forum. She hasn't provided one piece of helpful advice to anyone here. She signed on to be disruptive. I don't see how she is adding any value to a forum which is meant to be helpful relative to the process of immigration. Here are her responses to me:
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I realize you must apply censorship to this forum fairly, and understand why you banned Babybeh. He used very foul language, but actually wasn't as malicious as Beverly. I'll just request that you guys keep an eye on her posts. Perhaps she'll clean up her act now that you guys are monitoring this forum.
I SINCERELY HOPE THAT EVERYONE - AND THAT EMPHATICALLY INCLUDES BEVERLY - WILL NOT USE FOUL LANGUAGE ON THIS BOARD. I EXPECT TO MONITOR THE BOARD FOR SOME TIME, AND WITH OUR NEW POLICY CURRENTLY IN DRAFT FORM, HOPE THAT THAT WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY AND QUANTITY OF COMMUNICATION HERE. HOWEVER, PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO IMPOSE MORE RULES THAN NECESSARY. THAT'S WHY WE ARE GRADUALLY INTRODUCING RULES, AND ARE WATCHING THE EFFECT EACH TIME A NEW PROCEDURE IS IMPLEMENTED. THANKS FOR YOUR CONTINUED PATIENCE AND PARTICIPATION. AND SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE MY COMMENTS WERE DISTINGUISHED FROM THE OP.
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