Because its going to happen. What exactly has a Republican Preseident and Congress done? Nothing.
I cant wait for the new Democratic Pressident.

oh f-u-c-k off you d-u-m-b-a-s-s.............Hillary doesn't stand a chance against fred Thompson.

If Bloomberg (or someone with similar appeal to left-leaning moderate swing voters) runs as an Independent in 2008, then chances are that Republicans will retain White House.
On the other hand, if Rep. Tancredo [instead], or similar candidate, decided to run as an Independent, then Democrats would be in more favorable position to win the Presidency.

Otherwise , it's way too early to call.

lost in us i am so with you.. when we had a democratic president the country was going well it had jobs and the country was prospering.. yeah he made a big mistake but no one cant say they havent.. so i cannot wait to see who it will be and about time..

Bloomberg isnt a member of the Republican party anymore..or did you miss that one?
Like I said the Republicans may be rubbing their hands together in glee thinking they have won the war but they forget about the teenagers who are about to become eligible to vote and those are the ones who are going to school with immigrants.
The bill ****ed anyway. Touchback was wack.It became a republican bill and it still wasnt enough for them. It was republicans who voted against the bill who had the most amendments and they still werent satisfied.
Because it was their way of the highway. The votes were straight down party lines. Only 12 republicans voted for the bill.
!2.
Thats 12 more democratic seats in 8.
I so pray Sessions gets the pink slip. I cant stand that fool.

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lost in us: Bloomberg isnt a member of the Republican party anymore..or did you miss that one?

This is what I wrote:

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If Bloomberg (or someone with similar appeal to left-leaning moderate swing voters) runs as an Independent in 2008..

To my knowledge, Bloomberg had registered as an Independent few days ago.

Another democrat. Lets see, what happened last time. Oh, yes. National embarrasment. Monica et al. "I did not have sexual relations with that women". Liar liar. The dress the dress, look boss the dress. 9/11 planned out. They knew about osama, did nothing. bombed countries to steer attention away from the **** office. You guys have any idea of the cyclic influence a presidency has on the economy? Check it out. It may surprise you how it really works.

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Originally posted by Baby:
lost in us i am so with you.. when we had a democratic president the country was going well it had jobs and the country was prospering.. yeah he made a big mistake but no one cant say they havent.. so i cannot wait to see who it will be and about time..

Your statement about jobs puzzles me? For a trend of current unemployment rates, historical highs and lows, please visit this website:

http://www.bls.gov/web/lauhsthl.htm

Think you might be surprised that during this Presidency, the jobless rate has remained pretty low. I think there are better arguments to support electing a Democrat over Republican in the next election.

Lol Davdah, just because Clinton had an affair or two means only he's just a man. Like millions of other American men. Why deny it and be so prudent.
The president of the United States is not the Pope for gawd's sakes.
Do you suggest when Hillary's elected, she'll have affairs too?

In general, to have an affair is to show one's low moral character, absence of integrity.
One who has an affair also declares to the entire world: "My base instincts invariably prevail since they are superior to my conscious judgement and ability to distinguish "wrong" from "right", and thus control my overall behavior".
It is particularly true when one is caught having an affair.

As to former President, bear in mind that he was impeached not for having an affair but for having to deny it under an oath.
It means he lied to the Nation without as much as a blink of an eye, and how could you trust a President who misled you under oath ?

Tell me about the definition of "IS"..

It wasn't the affair, but lying under oath that bothered me. Sure, there have been many Presidents and politicians before him (and probably after too - lol) who had 'character' flaws and made mistakes. To me, the party doesn't make any difference. Look at Chappaquidd i c k, Watergate, Iran Contra affair, to name a few. Republicans are no angels either. To justify not voting for a Democrat using this line of thinking is a little shallow, imo.

To justify voting for a Democrat using this line of thinking (i.e. "Republicans are no angels either..") isn't too prudent as well.

I wasn't trying to justify voting for a Democrat. I've been a Republican all of my voting life! This time, I'm trying to be more open minded about all of the candidates (thinking outside the box). My point was we shouldn't generalize regarding party representation by the acts of one man.

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What if that man was the husband of the candidate?

How far are you willing to stretch your mind open?

There aint gonna be a democratic president. Hillary wont win against Rudy or Thompson. And Obama has no chance of winning because he is black and their is too much racism in this country to possibly return a black president. Thompson here we come.

If Arnold Schwarzenegger could run, which he can't because of Constitutional restriction, he would probably have the best of all chances to win (as a firm, unwavering Republican who at the same time is an in-law of Kennedy's - what better combination do you need to win ?).

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In general, to have an affair is to show one's low moral character, absence of integrity.
One who has an affair also declares to the entire world: "My base instincts invariably prevail since they are superior to my conscious judgement and ability to distinguish "wrong" from "right", and thus control my overall behavior".
It is particularly true when one is caught having an affair.

As to former President, bear in mind that he was impeached not for having an affair but for having to deny it under an oath.
It means he lied to the Nation without as much as a blink of an eye, and how could you trust a President who misled you under oath ?

Perfectly said. Its about character.

Thank you, dav.

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What if that man was the husband of the candidate?

How far are you willing to stretch your mind open?

Gotta be honest - not willing to stretch too far. Not to hurt any feelings of Hillary fans out there, but if Hillary wins, Bill will be in the driver's seat again. We had enough of him, don't you think? Not sure who the right candidate is for 2008, but I'm definitely paying more attention this time. I need a candidate who's between Republican and Democrat (and not Bloomberg) - any suggestions?

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Another democrat. Lets see, what happened last time. Oh, yes. National embarrasment. Monica et al. "I did not have sexual relations with that women". Liar liar. The dress the dress, look boss the dress. 9/11 planned out. They knew about osama, did nothing. bombed countries to steer attention away from the **** office. You guys have any idea of the cyclic influence a presidency has on the economy? Check it out. It may surprise you how it really works.

You are living in ancient past. Yes, JFK and other former presidents, including Eisenhower, have had extra marital affairs, but today's voting public have acute attention deficit disorder. Nowadays, it is about catchy phrases, one liners, David Letterman, Oprah, etc where most of the voter public gets its information. Add to the fact that the internet has created the boom bust of innuendo, gossip, and half truths in the Presidential campaigns. We constantly see negative advertising from all sides yet all sides condemn the opposite side and suggest that their side is right. We seen people disrespect the office without engagin in honest debate. We have seen name calling and a lack of respect for the political process. We have seen ignorance, yet everybody is an "expert" on what goes on inside the White House or Congressional/Senator's office. And the first primary has not even started yet. By the time November electon comes around, most voters will be turned off by the advertising. I predict a low voter turnout, less than 45% and I also see a third party candidate, maybe two, that will siphon the independent voters away.

But all in all, the race will depend on which party nominate whom. The Democrats with either elect Obama or Clinton. Edwards is too liberal for the social conservative, while Dodd and Biden will make excellent VP candidates. The Republicans with either elect Thompson or McCain. Rommney and Guiliani are in the outside looking in. The VP candidate will depend on who wins the Republican nomination. All in all, this will be a Vegas showing where anybody can win, but the insiders have the moxie to put their candidate in front.

Immigration will be a major domestic issue, but foreign policy and defense will be in the forefront.

It is possible, even probable for a Democratic candidate to win, but if one does win, they will be very moderate with a very liberal VP to shore up support.