Hopefully when the new rules come out next week, we will see some positive changes here on this forum. Then, perhaps we can move on with business as usual. If posters choose to break the rules, there will be repercussions. I pray we can last another week - lol!!!
I agree Proud, you know we all have our own opinions, and as you have mentioned life would be dull if we all thought the same, but there is no need to be rude, and I'm not just talking about Beverly, but S12, babybeh, and anyone else that throws insults, I know your's and Explora's, Hudson's, needhelpfast and a few others, hearts are in the right place, and I can see you dont accept illegal criminals, but wants to help out anyone else thru the immigration process and thru life in general, ... so if I can see this why can't anyone else?
Jake, I think most of us will agree that illegal immigration is breaking the law; however, those of us who try to show the other side understand why it is happening. Our government has provided an infrastructure for it to continue. Until they implement some fair immigration reform which includes not only securing our borders, but allowing more visa opportunities for people from the countries south of the border, the situation will only increase. Contrary to what the anti-illegal folks say, this country does need the immigrant work force it has in place in the agriculture, construction and a few other markets. There should also be laws to insure these workers are being paid fair wages. I don't think you'll find many Americans willing to pick fruit even if a fair wage were offered!
The others can't see it because they are wearing blinders - lol!
If a steady full crew were to be found and paid a fair wage as you say, the work would be so laborious that the workers would end up slacking. Many of the workers in the fields right now had worked in fields from a very young age in their country. They are more accustomed to the 'bend over and reach' than Americans. I don't think Americans would ever tolerate it no matter what wage was paid and they'd spend more time under the shade tree and at the water station. But as I said, they'll slack and be constantly looking for other employment.
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explora rambles on about subjects she knows nothing about....but she is quick to insult...a classic response of illegal alien supporters who cannot support their views with FACTS (not FAX).... the basic FACT is that illegals are amongst the lowest of lowlifes...they have lied, cheated or stolen their way to the US, where they steal jobs, scam free medical care, and then have the audacity to whine about THEIR RIGHTS!!! Yea sure....well listen up, illegal aliens (and your double-digit IQ supporters)...you do have the right to remain silent, so please, exercise that right often...and, you have the right to leave my country,....please, don't let the door hit you in the explora on the way out. Adding more visas would just mean more scamming, unless, (repeat for the mentally impaired [explora, iperson, hudson] unless we have totally closed all loopholes for these potential visa violaters to remain here (they are supposed to be 'temporary workers', not permanent workers)...at the conclusion of the fruit picking season, adios...go home for x months, then reapply for a new work visa...fine with me....but no bringing your spouse and 9 children to slurp at the public trough and get a free education on the dime of American taxpayers (nor free medical care to produce and have even more brats)...come here, work here, leave here.....punto. All visa cheats should just be sent home for years....forget waivers, forget phony marriages, forget hammering out brats to use as pawns to get a GC....play by the rules...period. Now this concept will annoy illegal alien supporters, because while they claim to be bleeding heart supporters for illegals, the fact remains almost all of them do absolutely nothing to reinforce that silly viewpoint...how many illegals are living in your hovel, explora? How many british w ankers are living with Jake01? How many polish visa cheats are residing with iperson? Answer:zero. So these hypcritical blather-producers have no clue about the downside of illegal immigration...none...they think they see a disadvantaged group of people, but forget they (the supporters) are still enjoying the American lifestyle and are unwilling to compromise their OWN standard of living and give it away, but they are happy to give my standard of living away...sorry you hypocritical uninformed idiots, but America and Americans come first....not some border jumper or visa cheat....and if you really disagree, then please.... (a) explain where it states in our laws that anyone and everyone on the planet is ENTITLED to come to the US to scam free bennies and employment (b) take in a dozen or illegals into your home, feed them, clothe them, let them use your car (be sure to buy extra insurance) and call the local TV station to broadcast this 1 in a zillion-chance event...otherwise, your words are empty (like your heads)
As is painfully obvious explora, you have no coherent, intelligent reply..because (a) you don't understand the word 'coherent' and (b) you cannot find a single U.S. law that states anyone and everyone is entitled to live and work in the US...and (c) you lack the courage of your so-called 'convictions..'come on....prove me wrong.....instead of trying to be witty (which for you will be difficult, since you are only 'half-armed)
I rest my case. It is sad to see how the human gene pool has regressed, in some cases, such as explora's.....let's check her IQ reading.....oh my ...a blip...all the way to 78....wow....
S12, there's an advantage to your giving me a reputation of having a 78 IQ reading. People will be less suspicious of me. BTW, that hole in the ozone layer has really fried my brain.
Jake o1 post: 4now do you call that posting lady like, I dont think so[/quote]
this is disgraceful talk by anyone in gerneral let alone on a public forum. But since you were not here during this period... did you pull up the filthy vulgar posts of explora who actually started speaking this c u n n ilingual type language first?
This was my point. Explora has no grounds to complain about Beverlys foul mouth posts when she was equally guilty of the same. Explora was the first to use the C word.
Again.at least their vulgarities were between each other.Ask your friends here. they will tell you, and they wont lie to you. better yet. pull up the posts and see 4yourself.
I just disagree that when someone gets so mad at someone that they have to stoop to racial name calling. then justify it by saying they deserve it. or say I understand why.. which is the same as justifiying it.
Nonetheless.. it is in the past and hopefully the board is getting back to normal without the offensive profanity from anyone or anymore racial name calling from anyone.
this is disgraceful talk by anyone in gerneral let alone on a public forum. But since you were not here during this period... did you pull up the filthy vulgar posts of explora who actually started speaking this c u n n ilingual type language first?
This was my point. Explora has no grounds to complain about Beverlys foul mouth posts when she was equally guilty of the same. Explora was the first to use the C word.
Again.at least their vulgarities were between each other.Ask your friends here. they will tell you, and they wont lie to you. better yet. pull up the posts and see 4yourself.
I just disagree that when someone gets so mad at someone that they have to stoop to racial name calling. then justify it by saying they deserve it. or say I understand why.. which is the same as justifiying it.
Nonetheless.. it is in the past and hopefully the board is getting back to normal without the offensive profanity from anyone or anymore racial name calling from anyone.
this is disgraceful talk by anyone in gerneral let alone on a public forum. But since you were not here during this period... did you pull up the filthy vulgar posts of explora who actually started speaking this c u n n ilingual type language first?
This was my point. Explora has no grounds to complain about Beverlys foul mouth posts when she was equally guilty of the same. Explora was the first to use the C word.
Again.at least their vulgarities were between each other.Ask your friends here. they will tell you, and they wont lie to you. better yet. pull up the posts and see 4yourself.
I just disagree that when someone gets so mad at someone that they have to stoop to racial name calling. then justify it by saying they deserve it. or say I understand why.. which is the same as justifiying it.
Nonetheless.. it is in the past and hopefully the board is getting back to normal without the offensive profanity from anyone or anymore racial name calling from anyone.
Once again the voice of reason/truth prevails.
Well That was what I was doing, I pulled up "STOP THE RAIDS" and as I explained all Proud had said was MERRY CHRISTMAS, I didn't know that was a vulgar word over here.
And look at the name calling she has called me, so I know good and well Beverly isn't as innocent as you make her out to be thats it 4 now
this is disgraceful talk by anyone in gerneral let alone on a public forum. But since you were not here during this period... did you pull up the filthy vulgar posts of explora who actually started speaking this c u n n ilingual type language first?
This was my point. Explora has no grounds to complain about Beverlys foul mouth posts when she was equally guilty of the same. Explora was the first to use the C word.
Again.at least their vulgarities were between each other.Ask your friends here. they will tell you, and they wont lie to you. better yet. pull up the posts and see 4yourself.
I just disagree that when someone gets so mad at someone that they have to stoop to racial name calling. then justify it by saying they deserve it. or say I understand why.. which is the same as justifiying it.
Nonetheless.. it is in the past and hopefully the board is getting back to normal without the offensive profanity from anyone or anymore racial name calling from anyone.
Once again the voice of reason/truth prevails.
Well That was what I was doing, I pulled up "STOP THE RAIDS" and as I explained all Proud had said was MERRY CHRISTMAS, I didn't know that was a vulgar word over here.
And look at the name calling she has called me, so I know good and well Beverly isn't as innocent as you make her out to be thats it 4 now
Jake, this exchange occurred on Page 8 of the Stop the Raids thread, for anyone who is interested. The extremely foul language began around that time. Hopefully, like I said yesteray, things will settle down and get back to normal soon.
Still lying HMMMMM . . . IT STARTED THE DAY I POSTED MY FIRST POST AND EXPLORA'S NERVOUS BREAK DOWN STARTED ON PAGE SIX NOT page 8 . . . ?
You know the reason this started was a result of Explora throwing tantrums like a toddler because I posted in a thread that was CREATED BY A FORMER MEMBER, that Explora claimed squatters rights to and got ticked off because I began posting there. She started spaming my threads with OVER BLOWN PICTURES and THEN SHE HAD SOME TYPE OF NERVOUS BREAKDOWN, SNAPPED AND THE TIRADE BELOW BEGAN:
Login/JoinWelcome, [Logout] BEV: CLEAN IT UP (YOUR MOUTH) explora 2 106 December 23, 2007 03:04 PM by NeedHelpFast EXPLORA:REMOVE YOUR SPAM FROM MY THREADS Beverly 0 66 December 23, 2007 02:50 PM
MEXICAN GOVERNMENT INSANITY Beverly 6 114 December 23, 2007 02:42 PM by Beverly IF FOUL-MOUTHS ALLOWED SO ARE TOPICS explora 0 50 December 23, 2007 02:38 PM
NEVER READ IT, MS. BEV FLINTSTONE explora 1 56 December 23, 2007 02:30 PM by Beverly CARTOON: ...BEV'S REGALO explora 1 59 December 23, 2007 02:29 PM by Beverly BEV'S CARTOON (NOT ABOUT ANY TRUTH) explora 1 60 December 23, 2007 02:27 PM by Beverly BEV BORN US CITIZEN DORA/EXPLORA MEXI NOMAD? Beverly 1 70 December 23, 2007 02:25 PM by Beverly EXPLORA: MULTIPLE IDENTITIES ILLEGAL MEXICAN SPECIALTY Beverly 1 52 December 23, 2007 02:24 PM by Beverly DORA/EXPLORA:I DON'T WRITE THEM I JUST POST THEM Beverly 0 33 December 23, 2007 02:23 PM
BEV NEEDS CONTROL explora 0 36 December 23, 2007 02:20 PM
WHAT TRUTH? IT'S ABOUT YOU: YOUR MOUTH explora 0 34 December 23, 2007 02:19 PM
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WHO NEEDS BEV'S FOUL MOUTHED LINGO??? explora 0 30 December 23, 2007 02:18 PM