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U.S. to Speed Deportation of Criminals in Jail
By JULIA PRESTON
Published: January 15, 2008


Federal authorities expect to identify and deport more than 200,000 immigrants this year who are convicted criminals serving time in prisons and jails across the country, the country’s top federal immigration enforcement official said Monday.


James Estrin/The New York Times
Julie L. Myers is in charge of the
Immigration and
Customs Enforcement agency.


The effort to speed the deportation of foreign-born criminals is part of a campaign by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency to help federal and state prisons reduce the costs of housing immigrants, the official, Julie L. Myers, assistant secretary of homeland security and head of the agency, said in an interview.

In 2007, Ms. Myers said, the agency, known as ICE, brought formal immigration charges against 164,000 immigrants who are behind bars nationwide for crimes committed in this country. Many of those immigrants are still in the United States and are also slated for deportation this year, she said. By comparison, in 2006, the agency identified 64,000 immigrants behind bars, most of whom were deported.


The big increase in deportations will place “a significant burden,” on ICE’s detention centers, she said, and on the airplanes, mostly from the Justice Department, used by the agency to fly immigrants back to their home countries. Last year, Congress authorized $200 million for programs to deport immigrant criminals.

Under current law, immigrants convicted of crimes are deported only after serving their sentences in this country. Foreigners behind bars, Ms. Myers said, include large numbers of immigrants who were legal residents, but lost their legal status as a result of being convicted of crimes.

Ms. Myers said the agency would work with states to devise parole programs allowing immigrants imprisoned for nonviolent crimes to reduce their prison time if they agreed to be deported immediately upon release.

The issue of immigrants in county jails and state prisons has been a sore point in many states. At city council meetings and in local elections, taxpayers vented frustration at having to pay for the imprisonment of illegal immigrants convicted of crimes committed in this country.

The Bush administration, after failing to win legislation last year to give legal status to illegal immigrants, has rapidly increased enforcement, placing a “huge priority” on deporting criminal immigrants, Ms. Myers said.

In general, immigrants end up in prison at significantly lower rates than people born in this country, said Rubén G. Rumbaut, a sociology professor at the University of California, Irvine, who studies immigrants and crime. Among men between the ages of 18 and 39, Mr. Rumbaut has found, Americans are five times more likely to land in prison than immigrants.

In 2007, ICE sent 276,912 immigrants to their home countries, including many who were had never been arrested for crimes, but were deported for civil immigration violations.

In the past year, Ms. Myers said, agents have stepped up efforts to find immigrants behind bars and complete immigration proceedings so they could be deported directly from prison without being released into the streets.

Ms. Myers, who was confirmed in late December after serving a year in the post, said the agency would intensify the crackdown this year with increased criminal prosecutions of employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

“There should be more of those,” she said of such prosecutions. Last year, the agency totaled $30 million in fines and forfeitures against employers, but fewer than 100 executives or hiring managers were arrested, compared with 4,100 unauthorized workers.


Ms. Myers said ICE agents were frustrated that employment cases had moved slowly in the courts and had not been treated as serious crimes by federal prosecutors and judges.

“This can’t be that we are the only ones who want to have these laws enforced,” she said.

Some employers, Ms. Myers said, were moving on their own to fire immigrant workers who lacked proper authorization and to tighten their hiring practices. She cited an Electrolux factory in Springfield, Tenn., that fired more than 150 immigrants in December after ICE arrested a handful of its workers.

“Do I think we have solved this problem? No,” Ms. Myers said of the hiring of illegal immigrants. “Do I think we are starting to make an impact? I think we’re starting to.”

On a separate issue, Ms. Myers confirmed that the agency adopted a new policy last week requiring a court order for medical staff members to give sedation drugs to immigrants being deported. The decision, in a Jan. 9 memorandum, responded to a lawsuit in California by the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of two immigrants who were forcibly drugged during attempts by ICE to deport them.

http://www.nytimes.com


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I think you forgot to highlight this:

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In general, immigrants end up in prison at significantly lower rates than people born in this country, said Rubén G. Rumbaut, a sociology professor at the University of California, Irvine, who studies immigrants and crime. Among men between the ages of 18 and 39, Mr. Rumbaut has found, Americans are five times more likely to land in prison than immigrants.
 
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Good catch, hjv!!!!
 
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Also Mike 2007 had already posted this article in the early hours of the morning, in his thread "immigration article thread" and this is the very reason we need all articles posted in one thread so as not to duplicate.
 
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Good catch, hjv!!!!


Hmmm, interesting...I thought it would be otherwise.

This post is good news as it shows that the taxpayers' money would be put to better use.


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I think you forgot to highlight this:

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In general, immigrants end up in prison at significantly lower rates than people born in this country, said Rubén G. Rumbaut, a sociology professor at the University of California, Irvine, who studies immigrants and crime. Among men between the ages of 18 and 39, Mr. Rumbaut has found, Americans are five times more likely to land in prison than immigrants.


Um . . no . . . first and foremost there is a difference between "IMMIGRANTS" and ILLEGAL ALIENS/ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. ALSO DESPITE THE FACT THAT AMERICA IS BEING OVERRUN BY MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS, AMERICANS STILL OUTNUMBER YOU AND THEREFORE, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE THAT THERE ARE MORE AMERICAN CRIMINALS IN AMERICA THAN "IMMIGRANTS". Another point: ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE HARDER TO TRACE AND MANY HAVE MULTIPLE IDENTITIES, UNLIKE AMERICANS WHO RARELY HAVE MORE THAN ONE IDENTITY AND THAT ONE IDENTITY IS EASILY TRACEABLE.

Of course there are those in the media and those who support the criminal activity of your illegal alien counterparts who just love to deliberately BLUR THE LINES AS IF THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.

That being said:


US Citizens who commit criminal act are unfortunately not DEPORTABLE and have a right to be in this country. ILLEGAL ALIENS/ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DO NOT AND THEREFORE IF THEY WERE NOT HERE ILLEGALLY, OUR TAX BURDEN WOULD DECREASE SUBSTANTIALLY, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO HIRE MORE BORDER PATROL, POLICEMEN, BUILD MORE JAIL, PAY FOR COURT COSTS, INTERPRETERS, ETC.

DUH . . . .SO YOUR POINT IS . . Oh wait you don't have one. hammer


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If you read and ANALYZE the article, it is about immigrants IN GENERAL (though I doubt you are capable of analyzing anything). Of course native Americans outnumber immigrants. That's why ratios and percentages are used. Ever heard of them?
 
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If you read and ANALYZE the article, it is about immigrants IN GENERAL (though I doubt you are capable of analyzing anything). Of course native Americans outnumber immigrants. That's why ratios and percentages are used. Ever heard of them?


I sure have which is exactly why I used the example that I used while you were busy comparing apples to oranges . . . DUH

Here's a question for you why do you keep stalking me and trying to bait me into your irrational, baseless, combative delusions of grandier?

Never mind don't answer because your redundancy is actually not worthy of any response, I'm bored with you and it's lunchtime for me.

Enjoy the rest of your day!


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Here's a question for you why do you keep stalking me and trying to bait me into your irrational, baseless, combative delusions of grandier?


Hey hjv,

This is Beverly's standard response when she is challenged. No worries, with so many of us so-called stalkers, you are in good company!
 
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I see, ProudUSC. Smile

Main Entry: para·noia
Pronunciation: \ˌper-ə-ˈnȯi-ə, ˌpa-rə-\
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Greek, madness, from paranous demented, from para- + nous mind
Date: circa 1811

1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations

2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others

— para·noi·ac \-ˈnȯi-ˌak, -ˈnȯi-ik\ also para·noic \-ˈnȯi(-i)k, -ˈnō-ik\ adjective or noun
— para·noi·cal·ly \-ˈnȯi(-i)-k(ə-)lē, -ˈnō-i-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
 
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About time, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
 
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Here's a question for you why do you keep stalking me and trying to bait me into your irrational, baseless, combative delusions of grandier?


Hey hjv,

This is Beverly's standard response when she is challenged. No worries, with so many of us so-called stalkers, you are in good company!


I thought our dear Bev was a lawyer or has implied she works in that area, well if she finds the time to post on here as much as she does, she can't have many clients, she has probably scared them all away!!
 
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Originally posted by ProudUSC:
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Here's a question for you why do you keep stalking me and trying to bait me into your irrational, baseless, combative delusions of grandier?


Hey hjv,

This is Beverly's standard response when she is challenged. No worries, with so many of us so-called stalkers, you are in good company!


I thought our dear Bev was a lawyer or has implied she works in that area, well if she finds the time to post on here as much as she does, she can't have many clients, she has probably scared them all away!!


Wow, I go to lunch and come back to the alien pom-pom squad talking trash and making up stories about me to amuse themselves while I'm gone.

First and foremost FAKE USC, I have said all I had to say with regards to the subject and have better things to do than argue with a bunch of lame pom pom shakers such as yourself who can't hold a candle to me intellectually so you have to settle for being a sidelined cheerleader;

As for the temporary visitor who married in the hopes of obtaining citizenship, as curious as you are about my personal life/business, unlike you I have friends in real life therefore its not necessary to tell any of you losers my life story.

ta-ta for now.


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Wow, I go to lunch and come back to the alien pom-pom squad talking trash and making up stories about me to amuse themselves while I'm gone.


Making up stories? Hello? If anyone dares to comment on any of your articles or posts, they are labeled a stalker. You are the queen of twisting words.

Talk about liars and scammers, it seems you fit perfectly into this category. You are obviously misusing your company's time by spending so much time on this forum during work hours (you did say you just came BACK from lunch)? That's called stealing, Beverly.
 
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a round of applause for ICE as they round up deportees....and a round of applause for Beverly...and a Bronx cheer for Jake01, the visa waiver cheat.
 
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Someone12speaking of a round of applause for ICE guess who along with his entire family got deported:

THE RACIST Chicano MeCHa propogandist . .
clap! The official American version hasn't hit the media yet but here's a botched Spanish to English version:

Children of undocumented parents undergo in own meat the operative ones of the Agency of Immigration (HE HOISTS); they deport 70 people in the month

With a sad and full glance of light simultaneously, Paola Oropeza, the student of the Hard-twisted school deported Tuesday last with his family, says I will not occur by won.

Already in Tijuana, after its expulsion of the country where it lived during 19 years, once reunited with its mother and father it was put to think about its future and since I will make to finish its university race him, since faltendo a semester to finish its studies to him in of the race of Businesses, it was deported.

“I believe that I am going to finish the classes that I need by Internet and because we are going away to be here because it is the month near which I know”, said to Friday Paola in interview after going to the consulate of the United States in Tijuana.

“I already went to ask and they said to me that I am not going to be able to return but within 10 years”, the student says.


THIS PODRIA TO BE ITS HISTORY
Paola arrived at the United States in company from his parents, Maria de Jesus and Guillermo Oropeza as well as of his sister Claudia in the year of 1989.

Family, as many went with that thought was an immigration lawyer respectable so that it transacted its stay to them and it regularized his estatus in the country, but never counted whereupon it transacts would be bad fact.

“When she arrived to me my permission of work by a year we were with the lawyer to thank to him and she herself was surprised, until reviewed the card well”, comments Guillermo Oropeza, father of Paola.

“We renewed several times the permission until the letter arrived to us from the appointment in Los Angeles”, the gentleman adds. Once with the migratory authorities, the agent whom she reviewed his request of legalization did the question to them that would change everything.

“We arrived and to me it asks ` that a person of the Mexican government this looking for to kill it? ', I said to him that no, that that was not certain, but because she was what put the lawyer in the papers”, said Mr. Oropeza to whom after clarifying the situation they explained to him that to the Mexicans the political asylum is not granted to them.

“They said to Us that we had ourselves to leave the country but said to them that to Paola it needed three months to finish the secondary one and gave we permission to have left to us, but they did not remove to us until now”, said Guillermo.

http://diariosandiego.com/bin/articulos.cgi?ID=42791


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a round of applause for ICE as they round up deportees....and a round of applause for Beverly...and a Bronx cheer for Jake01, the visa waiver cheat.


Someone12, try speaking the Queens English, I have not got a clue what a bronx cheer is?

Also you and Beverly are very brave in saying what you do behind your computer, have you had these sort of discussions in public with your very few friends, because I would love to know what sort of reception you get.
 
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Here's a question for you why do you keep stalking me and trying to bait me into your irrational, baseless, combative delusions of grandier?


Hey hjv,

This is Beverly's standard response when she is challenged. No worries, with so many of us so-called stalkers, you are in good company!


I thought our dear Bev was a lawyer or has implied she works in that area, well if she finds the time to post on here as much as she does, she can't have many clients, she has probably scared them all away!!



If I'm not mistaken in one of her previous posts she said she is a legal assistant. Probably a receptionist/clerk, or the like of I guess, using the computer on company time! Tsk-tsk!!
 
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one way to creat a Bronx cheer....press the palm of your hand to your mouth, blow firmly.
 
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