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Squirm as many way as you wished IP, bottom line you're the one that changed your own story. Only when caught you started to twist your tongue and trying to come up with excuse to hide your true opinions/motives.
History of past decades you said. Which decades is this? The 1980s where a republican named Ronald Reagan stir the world away from the cold-war and god-knows-what nuclear disaster that might happen? Or maybe in the early 90s where hadn't because George Bush listened to the Europeans protest that he stopped short of toppling Saddam (and sparing the Iraqis 13yrs of more suffering under Saddam). Or maybe in 2001 when Dubya decides to retaliate against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda after the US was attacked (with full support of the UN)? Also which part of the conflict in Lebanon are you blaming to the US too? The Lebanon civil wars perhaps?
Better be a bit more specific, since you seemed to be quite adept of changing your story and twist it around with, as Hudson put it, "less than a 5th grader knowledge of history".
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quote: My advice to you is to leave the US. YOu have an internet business. This would be easy to relocate. If you are married and he is a USC, perhaps you should give the same rants and see how he feels. He might leave with you or give you a divorce, or neither. But he will look biwildered, angry, upset, confused, etc.
How dare you tell me what I should do with my life? Its a waste of my time with you guys who twist my words and ask me personal questions. I am not asking any of you what your life is like, am I? I am going to post whatever I please and where I want to. You are welcome to ignore my posts but this is not your forum. I've been nice enough to tell you what I do. It is you who is rude and uncompromising in the light of facts. War a necessity? See if you like it if your loved one died on 9/11 or you were one of them. Should you call it a necessity? Because the 9/11 attack was a war tactic, but oh well, this was a necessity. I wish you well. Your civilization is one of death. But I chose the civilization of life.
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Iperson, your intrusion hijacked this, my topic.
Yesterday, you intruded in specific postings between Impenetrable and me only, which had you "looking" or "wanting" to start fights.
Next time, unless relevant to the topic at hand, mind your own business or better yet, open your own "new" topic!
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quote: Originally posted by iperson:
Gosh, you are a talker. When do you have the time to type a few thousands of characters and post them?
Ebay is NOT based in NY. Ebay is based in San Jose California.
And I do NOT work as an indepandant contractor and I do NOT lease space on ebay.
Just how little you know about online business.
I advertise my websites on ebay by purchasing virtual space, just as I advertise with Google and Yahoo and other places. Ebay is just a small part of the whole pie.
I really wish to stay to talk but like I said my time is precious and cost me money.
If you are self employed, you are an independent contractor, IP. This is how tax law defines self employed individuals who are sole proprietors. Until you create eithe ra partnership or a corporation, you are an independent contractor.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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quote: Originally posted by iperson:
How dare you tell me what I should do with my life?
Its a waste of my time with you guys who twist my words and ask me personal questions. I am not asking any of you what your life is like, am I?
I am going to post whatever I please and where I want to. You are welcome to ignore my posts but this is not your forum.
I've been nice enough to tell you what I do. It is you who is rude and uncompromising in the light of facts.
War a necessity? See if you like it if your loved one died on 9/11 or you were one of them. Should you call it a necessity? Because the 9/11 attack was a war tactic, but oh well, this was a necessity.
I wish you well. Your civilization is one of death. But I chose the civilization of life.
You and you alone started this. Let us recap AGAIN, shall we: conservatist prudent politically correct repressed Americans
- uneducated and easily manipulated by own government
- allow president break constitution to enter the war
- have government go after oil through millions of dead bodies
And finally, the closing line:
AMERICANS ARE STUPID.But it gets better, you then said, "our civilization is one of death." My civilization is the American civilization, IP. You are now American civilization is death. You have not differentiated which specific parts of American past that you disapprove, but are generally disapproving all of it. But it gets better, you then said, "I didnt speak of ALL American history and all the presidents. I know history very well. I speak of the past decades. I don't need to mention obvious details. We all know where and when the blood was flowing." This is so convoluted that it lacks any specifics whatsoever. It can be easily changed to mean whatever you want it to mean. Thus, it is uneducated drivel. But you still said, "I am NOT against America and the American Nation!!!" With the generalized statements listed above, you now claim this. Your actions and your words do not even suggest this, but to the contrary of pure anti-American and in the past Anti-Semitic hatred that proves Hitler's message is still alive.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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Ok, Hudson you are going overboard. Calling me anti-semitic and pro-Hitler? I expressed myself clearly that I am NOT anti-american in many posts. I said clearly I am anti war and anti republican, NOT anti-american. Your hatred towards me, for some unknown reasons, is clouding your mind. I explained my position thoroughly. What actions of mine are you talking about? These are only words. I'm putting you on my ignore list, so don't bother posting to me. You are an ignorant and arrogant American, and those I am against. I guess it is all stemming from your republican sorry behind. Lol= you lost!!
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IPPPPPPP, you better put a lot of people on your ignore list, because MANY do not like you and your twisted posts. Go back to selling on ebay.
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quote: Originally posted by user99:
IPPPPPPP, you better put a lot of people on your ignore list, because MANY do not like you and your twisted posts. Go back to selling on ebay.
Nothing you say makes any difference.
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quote: Originally posted by iperson:
Ok, Hudson you are going overboard.
Calling me anti-semitic and pro-Hitler?
I expressed myself clearly that I am NOT anti-american in many posts.
I said clearly I am anti war and anti republican, NOT anti-american.
Your hatred towards me, for some unknown reasons, is clouding your mind.
I explained my position thoroughly. What actions of mine are you talking about? These are only words.
I'm putting you on my ignore list, so don't bother posting to me. You are an ignorant and arrogant American, and those I am against.
I guess it is all stemming from your republican sorry behind. Lol= you lost!!
I went overboard. You were the one who called Americans stupid, You were the one who called Americans civilizatin a civilization of death. I did not start making blatent, uneducated, overtly generalized, disparaging remarks about a country that you currently live in, but are not a citizen. But you did all this yourself. The only thing you did was backtrack a little when you got cornered. You are a narcissistic, insipid, opate, shallow, and arrogant usurpant person who does not know who they are, where they are going, and what they really want not beyond the end of their own nose. And now you want to hide like an ostrage.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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You claim to know me... so well? Lol, you know absolutely nothing about me. You don't know my life at all. You must be really pissed off at your republican buddies and take on other people. Maybe I worded myself in a wrong way. English is my second language, mind you. I'll tell you once again and I am not backtracking anything. I meant the Americans who voted for Reps and allowed for Iraq to happen, allowed for bigots and racists to govern the country ARE stupid. That was supposed to mean: how stupid Americans are to allow for that to happen. That meaning alone was in my mind out of rage agaisnt the wars and attrocities, NOT a generalization against a nation. What you are doing is setting up a straw man. Putting words and meanings in my mouth. You Hudson live comfortably in your country that never saw war on your turf and never was really hungry or cold or homeless. You don't know what it's like not to see your family for 10 years. You don't know anything living your privilaged life in America. I also said that there are many wonderful people in this country whom I've met. Somehow you scratched that from your memory. It is YOU who is arrogant. And thats the perception of many people around the world. When I travel and talk to people in the future, I am going to mention you, that I have met one of the most arrogant people in America.
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Would you like some cheese with that whine...
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As a matter of fact, I am proud of all the Americans who turned up to vote on Tuesday. These are the Americans I thought America was about and those I've met since I came here. Those Americans are smart, kind hearted and generous in so many ways. This is the blue part of America. Living on the East Coast and California, in the biggest cities, NYC, and Los Angeles. Those are the educated successful Americans. NOT rodeo red necks living in small little towns in the middle of desserts, uneducated, narrowminded and bigoted. Those I was speaking about in my previous posts.
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quote: Originally posted by iperson:
You claim to know me... so well?
Lol, you know absolutely nothing about me. You don't know my life at all.
You must be really pissed off at your republican buddies and take on other people.
Maybe I worded myself in a wrong way. English is my second language, mind you.
I'll tell you once again and I am not backtracking anything. I meant the Americans who voted for Reps and allowed for Iraq to happen, allowed for bigots and racists to govern the country ARE stupid.
That was supposed to mean: how stupid Americans are to allow for that to happen. That meaning alone was in my mind out of rage agaisnt the wars and attrocities, NOT a generalization against a nation.
What you are doing is setting up a straw man. Putting words and meanings in my mouth.
You Hudson live comfortably in your country that never saw war on your turf and never was really hungry or cold or homeless. You don't know what it's like not to see your family for 10 years. You don't know anything living your privilaged life in America.
I also said that there are many wonderful people in this country whom I've met. Somehow you scratched that from your memory.
It is YOU who is arrogant. And thats the perception of many people around the world. When I travel and talk to people in the future, I am going to mention you, that I have met one of the most arrogant people in America.
IP, You still have not learned, have you? 1. I have never been a registered party member of any party, including the Republicans. Libertarian, Green, Reform, Republican, Democrat, and other parties are pretty much the same, when you boil down to the basics. I make a conscious effort on all candidates, not just national or statewide. 2. You are generalizing way too much, IP, especially when you make statements like this: "I meant the Americans who voted for Reps and allowed for Iraq to happen, allowed for bigots and racists to govern the country ARE stupid. That was supposed to mean: how stupid Americans are to allow for that to happen. That meaning alone was in my mind out of rage agaisnt the wars and attrocities, NOT a generalization against a nation." You have just generalized voters for expressing their political opinion irregardless of why they voted for a particular candidate. This is what I find morally reprehensible, IP; and why I have taken a great distest at the above comment and others you have made. 3. You spoke about the US has never experienced war in their home turf. Let me give you a list of the wars that have been fought on US soil: French and Indian War (1756–1763)
American Revolution (1775-1783)
War of 1812 (1812-1814)
The American Civil War (1861-1865)
The Indian Wars (1823-1890) West of Mississippi
WWII, most notably American possessians of Hawaii and Alaska 4. There are many definitions of "rich" IP. I have met the "richest" people but who do not have two ****hings to their name and I have met the most misearable people who can buy almost anything except love. Which one are you, IP? 5. For me, each country and their culture have advantages and disadvantages. No one culture is superior nor inferior; however no one culture can fit everybody. What you have done as turned this and spoke against American culture based nly on false perceptions and fallacies. The American culture, like every other culture in the world, stands unique on its own, but its citizens wiil decide what is best for this country, not outsiders. Finally, you said I am arrogant. Based on what, I may ask. Is it because I have a different politcal opinion than you. If that is so, then that is not arrogance, is it? Is it because I came down hard on the gross overgeneralizations about my country? If so, that is not arrogance. Is it because I have pride in my country, no matter what other people think? If so, then that is not arrogance, but natinoalism. And nationalism is exhibited in every country in one degree or another. Again, I ask you, how do you define arrogance.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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You know, you should meet my sister. She's the one who can write epic novels on every subject, draw out topics endlessly, and talk and talk and talk... without end. I don't have any patience to answer your questions, especially that you like to twist my words and interpret them your way without paying attention to the intended meaning. I guess IE was right. You're a straw man. I begin to miss him.
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quote: Originally posted by iperson:
You know, you should meet my sister. She's the one who can write epic novels on every subject, draw out topics endlessly, and talk and talk and talk... without end.
I don't have any patience to answer your questions, especially that you like to twist my words and interpret them your way without paying attention to the intended meaning.
I guess IE was right. You're a straw man.
I begin to miss him.
IP, do not overtly generalize a group, subgroup, nationality, voters, etc. This is why I am being so hard on you. You need to be more accurate when you post to state what you want to mean. And because of your overt generalizations, I had to presume what you are intending to say, not putting words in your mouth.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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quote: Originally posted by iperson:
As a matter of fact,
I am proud of all the Americans who turned up to vote on Tuesday. These are the Americans I thought America was about and those I've met since I came here.
Those Americans are smart, kind hearted and generous in so many ways.
This is the blue part of America. Living on the East Coast and California, in the biggest cities, NYC, and Los Angeles. Those are the educated successful Americans.
NOT rodeo red necks living in small little towns in the middle of desserts, uneducated, narrowminded and bigoted.
Those I was speaking about in my previous posts.
Thank you IPERSON, I turned up to vote on Tuesday. Are you proud of me? I'm also from the East Coast. So many compliments. |
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quote: Originally posted by iperson:
As a matter of fact,
I am proud of all the Americans who turned up to vote on Tuesday. These are the Americans I thought America was about and those I've met since I came here.
Those Americans are smart, kind hearted and generous in so many ways.
This is the blue part of America. Living on the East Coast and California, in the biggest cities, NYC, and Los Angeles. Those are the educated successful Americans.
NOT rodeo red necks living in small little towns in the middle of desserts, uneducated, narrowminded and bigoted.
Those I was speaking about in my previous posts.
You should have stated that you were proud of those showing up to vote, only 40% of the voting population, irregardless of who they voted for and why. I encouraged everyone to vote even though I know some or most will not vote the same political afffiliation as myself. You are making racial overtones when calling people stupid just because they live in a part of the US you have no clue whatsoever.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." John Adams on Defense of the boston Massacre
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Racial overtones are on your part Hudson and user99 (are you IE btw?) Against foreigners. There is completely no other way to explain your attitude towards me other than racism and nationalism. And that's not the first time happening when people find out I am a foreigner. I was talking about Americans voting for Democrats, user99, which you didnt do.
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